!!

Not Registered?

Welcome!  Please register to view all of the new posts and forum boards - some of which are hidden to guests.  After registering and gaining 10 posts you will be able to sell and buy items on our N'porium.

If you have any problems registering, then please check your spam filter before emailing us.  Hotmail users seem to find their emails in the Junk folder.


Thanks for reading,
The NGF Staff.

Author Topic: Show your Latest Loco and Rolling Stock Purchase.  (Read 673129 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline johnlambert

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23717
  • Posts: 1348
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Show your Latest Loco and Rolling Stock Purchase.
« Reply #1275 on: January 09, 2014, 10:30:01 PM »
There was no second class at the time.  Something to do with railways being obliged to offer 'affordable third class fares'.  So they re-named what was second class as third class and gave customers the choice of first or third although ticket prices were the same as the old first and second classes with third class fairs and accommodation abolished.

Not sure what formations teak coaches would have run as but you'd expect there to be more third than first class coaches.  And it is possible that some inter-regional services would have seen teak coaches pulled by GWR locos.

Offline daveg

  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 22509
  • Posts: 5158
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Show your Latest Loco and Rolling Stock Purchase.
« Reply #1276 on: January 09, 2014, 10:37:46 PM »
Thanks John. Much appreciated.

Dave G

Offline Skyline2uk

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2152
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
  • Lets preserve at least one HST.....
    • My home layout thread, Filton TMD
    • Awards
Re: Show your Latest Loco and Rolling Stock Purchase.
« Reply #1277 on: January 09, 2014, 10:39:51 PM »
I was going to post the same explanation but didn't want to appear foolish  :-[

The railway companies were quite naughty really, they were obliged to provide "Third Class" travel, so they did. The fact that no "Second Class" existed anymore didn't matter by the letter (if not spirit) of the law.

Even worse was the practice of (allegedly) deliberately letting third class get dirty, thus dirtying the clothes of those using them and "encouraging" them to pay the first class fare. This would hit the like of city clerks (who had to look smart but weren't actually paid that well) hardest.

Add to this the so called "Parliamentary trains" which offered all third class travel, but at absolutely useless times, and you realise that the hard-pressed rail commuter had long sice been under the cosh.

Sorry,  :offtopicsign:

Skyline2uk

Offline johnlambert

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23717
  • Posts: 1348
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Show your Latest Loco and Rolling Stock Purchase.
« Reply #1278 on: January 09, 2014, 10:48:40 PM »
Thanks for that, Skyline.  I suppose whenever there are rules in place people will attempt to interpret them to their own advantage.  Anyway, to try and get things back on topic, here's my latest purchase:



A weathered BR brake van I picked up on a trip to Glasgow.  You can also see the LNER B1 which I run with my teak coaches.

Offline EtchedPixels

  • Advertiser
  • Trade Count: (+44)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 16353
  • 2mm Association Number: 4412
  • Posts: 8286
  • Country: wales
  • Gender: Male
    • Ebay
    • Google+
    • Twitter
    • YouTube
    • Etched Pixels
    • Awards
Re: Show your Latest Loco and Rolling Stock Purchase.
« Reply #1279 on: January 12, 2014, 05:11:47 PM »
There was no second class at the time.

Not quite strictly true - second class tended to survive as a special case for boat trains (the boats having three classes).

The railways certainly had a long history of bad behaviour. It took a law (Railway Act 1844) to get them to even give third class passengers a roof. Likewise it took state meddling to introduce parliamentary trains, or to get some companies to even carry third class passengers (eg the NLR only did so once compelled to do this as part of the arrangement for demolishing a load of slums to build their nice big shiny new station in London). Some companies even had a fourth class for a while (if third class passengers must have a roof why not add a fourth class without...)

To force passengers to travel first class everything was tried - coupling third class passengers to goods trains so they were very slow, making sure only first and second class coach trains didn't require changing - you name it, everything the airlines have come up with the railways tried first 8)

In the 1870s the Midland railway decided to change the rules of the game. To the utter fury of the other companies they started treating passengers like human beings and were rewarded with massive increases in passenger numbers and popularity. The lack of difference between 2nd and 3rd led to what was really third class being abolished. In law however they had to either provide 3rd class train services or pay extra taxes - so they simply called 2nd class 3rd and abolished second. It took into BR days for someone to decide that was stupid and fix the law.

Then in the era of political correctness it became 'standard class'. Some of the franchises btw are now lobbying for a return of 3rd class - or more accurately 'first/business/standard' akin to airline service.

Alan
"Knowledge has no value or use for the solitary owner: to be enjoyed it must be communicated" -- Charles Pratt, 1st Earl Camden

Offline johnlambert

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23717
  • Posts: 1348
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Show your Latest Loco and Rolling Stock Purchase.
« Reply #1280 on: January 18, 2014, 09:26:32 PM »
Thanks for the info, Alan.

My latest purchase is a Christmas present of sorts.  I had some Amazon vouchers to use and discovered that various N gauge items are available on there.  The Graham Farish fruit vans are something I've wanted for a while so I decided to treat myself.




Offline Luke Piewalker

  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 880
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Show your Latest Loco and Rolling Stock Purchase.
« Reply #1281 on: January 19, 2014, 05:56:27 PM »


Another of my fantastic pictures....
I'm generally a TOPS guy, but for the price I couldn't resist...
« Last Edit: January 19, 2014, 05:57:36 PM by Luke Piewalker »

Offline johnlambert

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23717
  • Posts: 1348
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Show your Latest Loco and Rolling Stock Purchase.
« Reply #1282 on: January 19, 2014, 07:13:33 PM »
Nice loco, Luke.
For some reason I never used to like Peaks when I first discovered them but they've started to grow on me.  Now if Farish would update one with NEM pockets, lights and a DCC socket I'd add one to my collection.

Offline Luke Piewalker

  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 880
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Show your Latest Loco and Rolling Stock Purchase.
« Reply #1283 on: January 19, 2014, 07:31:30 PM »
I'm just proud of my orange multiple working cables. The orange is a bit too red, but it's an improvement on the unpainted black.

Offline mk1gtstu

  • Trade Count: (+19)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 25373
  • Posts: 1232
  • Country: wales
  • Gender: Male
  • Classic Ford Enthusiast, mostly Mk1 Escorts
    • Awards
Re: Show your Latest Loco and Rolling Stock Purchase.
« Reply #1284 on: January 19, 2014, 11:12:19 PM »


Another of my fantastic pictures....
I'm generally a TOPS guy, but for the price I couldn't resist...


Nice loco! I'm doing a bit of surgery, detailing & repaint on a class 45 peak at the moment, they're good locos & can be improved with a bit of work. :thumbsup:
I'm tempted to get a couple more as they are a good price at the moment.. :hmmm:

cheers, Stu.
Cridmore Yard (4x2 1980's layout) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10382.msg107202#msg107202

My Box File Layout (South Wales Valleys Colliery) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.0

Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39654.0

Offline pape_timmo

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23256
  • Posts: 507
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Ebay
    • YouTube
    • Awards
Re: Show your Latest Loco and Rolling Stock Purchase.
« Reply #1285 on: January 20, 2014, 12:33:16 AM »
For Christmas my son bought me a Central trains 156 unit, and then for my birthday last week the kids and mother in law gave me money and a voucher or the local model shop, Church Street Models. So I bought the dummy 156 to go with the powered one. With the change I got another grey/blue Pullman Mk1, and the Oxford Diecast Plaxton Elite of Prospect Coaches.

(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)

This weekend I've been away with my good lady, and shed promised a trip to Ford to The Engine Shed, to get the rest of my birthday present from her.
She got me 4 Cargowaggons, and 2 VGAs.

(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)

When we got back to the hotel we had a call from our daughter to say a parcel had been delivered for me. It was my 5 Dapol FGW Mk3s, I'd ordered them for
Myself in December as a combined Christmas birthday pressie to myself. Yippee. I can now run a full length HST, ok not a TGS, but I'm after a representation, not perfection.

(Sorry, but you are not allowed to access the gallery)

What a fruitful new year it has been  :thankyousign: to the family...

Cheers, Timmo
There’s the right way, the wrong way, and the Railway...

My YouTube channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxeUUCqEw_rWo229kmnizFQ

Offline Croxy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 311
  • Country: ca
  • Gender: Male
    • YouTube
    • Awards
Re: Show your Latest Loco and Rolling Stock Purchase.
« Reply #1286 on: January 20, 2014, 02:01:20 AM »
Nice haul...........!!!

 :laugh3:
If you like it run it......

Offline Newportnobby

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+95)
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • N Gauge Society Number: 21962
  • Posts: 32835
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Show your Latest Loco and Rolling Stock Purchase.
« Reply #1287 on: January 20, 2014, 10:43:05 AM »
Great set of pressies :thumbsup:

Offline scotsoft

  • Trade Count: (+20)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 6768
  • Country: scotland
  • Gender: Male
  • Scottish n' Newcastle
    • YouTube
    • Awards
Re: Show your Latest Loco and Rolling Stock Purchase.
« Reply #1288 on: January 20, 2014, 10:51:30 AM »
You will be as happy as a pig in poo  :D

cheers John.

Offline pape_timmo

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23256
  • Posts: 507
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Ebay
    • YouTube
    • Awards
Re: Show your Latest Loco and Rolling Stock Purchase.
« Reply #1289 on: January 20, 2014, 11:25:22 AM »
Cheers gents, I'm a very happy chappie. Just gotta get on and build the layout, especially as my wife told me to stop buying models and get on building the scenery lol.

Cheers, Timmo
There’s the right way, the wrong way, and the Railway...

My YouTube channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxeUUCqEw_rWo229kmnizFQ

 

Please Support Us!
December Goal: £60.00
Due Date: Dec 31
Total Receipts: £25.00
Below Goal: £35.00
Site Currency: GBP
42% 
December Donations


Advertise Here
anything