Quote from: Moonglum on June 30, 2024, 09:47:25 PMI have not heard that version before but this one from Pink Floyd's "Pulse" is often considered the best version, discuss...

https://youtu.be/7kWl-ZGMwkQ?feature=shared

Cheers,

Tim

To me there's just nothing to discuss. When 'The Wall' first came out I thought I'd heard the best ever guitar solo but them I saw this 1994 Earls Court version on the telly and realised it was THE definitive version. Full stop

(Some of the comments below the YouTube clip made me shed a tear or so)

It's ok I suppose 

Thanks Gentlemen, I haven't got the original version on "The Wall" anymore but have three live versions of "Comfortably Numb" by either DG and PF. TBH, I think the last good album by PF was "Animals", I recently bought the 2018 remix as I only ever had "Animals" on tape back in the 70s and it is excellent. "The Wall" is a bit sprawly but could be concentrated into a good single CD. Releases after "The Wall" have been somewhat mediocre (IMO). "The Great Gig in the Sky" was played on Planet Rock last night and is still as fresh as a Daisey.

Cheers,

Tim

 

I agree 'The Wall' could be condensed a little but what would you remove while keeping the narrative going?
I'm surprised you rate 'The Division Bell' as mediocre. I must admit on its release I found myself thinking "What are all these short tunes about?" but it rapidly grew on me and I just play it a lot now, something I can't say about 'The Endless River'
Each to their own, though. We is all different.

We don't need no education

We don't need no thought control

Not bad for an ex-teacher, eh 

Mick @Newportnobby I would say that "The Division Bell" is the better of the four releases after "The Wall" and I probably have the better tracks from it on various live CDs/DVDs. But at the time of its release I was a bit underwhelmed probably because my tastes had changed since the early to mid 70s. My first exposure to Pink Floyd, at the age of around 14, was "Meddle" which had just been released and it blew my socks off - especially "Echoes"!

At some point, I might select my preferred tracks from "The Wall" onto a 45 minute (LP length) Spotify playlist, ignoring the narrative to see how it works.

Cheers,

Tim 

Tim @Moonglum
Yeah - the only outstanding track for me on 'Momentary Lapse of Reason' is 'On the turning away'.
Like you, my first exposure to Floyd was 'Meddle' and, like you, 'Echoes' blew my mind and even my parents liked that track. I then went backwards to discover 'Ummagumma' and 'Atom Heart Mother', with the 'Atom Heart Mother Suite' being the track that mainly stood out for me

Mick @Newportnobby , that's amazing! I worked backwards through their catalogue as well. I can remember listening to "Careful with that Axe Eugene" from "Ummagumma", when my father appeared at my bedroom door asking me to turn the music down. I said "Hang on can I listen to the bit just coming up, and with that the whispered words heralded the screaming..." Not sure what he thought but I did get him to like Santana and Renaissance!

I think "Atom Heart Mother" is very underrated.

I did have tickets to see Pink Floyd/Soft Machine doing a benefit gig for Robert Wyatt at the Rainbow London (Nov 1973), I was going with a family friend but she persuaded me to give my ticket to her friend who had been in hospital. I have regretted that decision...

Cheers,

Tim     

In my late teens and early twenties I was living in Northampton. Friday/Saturday nights were spent in the back room of the 'Black Lion' who played nothing but heavy stuff (it's where I first heard 'The Snake' by 'The Pink Fairies'), and then on the Sunday evening the weekend was finished off at the prog rock night at the 'Plough Hotel'. The room had a large round table and some privileged few, including myself and girlfriend, always sat at it with friends. Music mainly from the likes of King Crimson, Yes, Soft Machine, BJH, Genesis, Jethro Tull etc..
I'll never forget a guy who turned up every Sunday in white breeches tucked into boots, scarlet military tunic with braid, long stemmed clay pipe and he had hair like Robert Plant. He never had problems pulling the ladies! I seem to recall his name was Monty.
No disco rubbish for the likes of us, despite Northampton having a large two floored disco venue called 'Cinderella Rockafellas'
I even held my marriage reception at 'The Plough'. Not one of my better decisions (not the venue - the deed)
Oh, happy days indeed

Meddle was also my introduction to Pink Floyd and I was really impressed with it but at much the same time I was very heavily influenced by Caravan's "In the Land of Grey and Pink" which led me more into their more underground and somewhat jazz influenced musical style.

A school friend though was a big Floyd fan which meant I was subjected to Atom Heart Mother which is, I think, greatly underrated and Umma Gumma.
Both are fine albums - especially of their time.

Later on, I never really returned to Floyd.
I admired most of their work, especially The Wall and within that the sublime Comfortably Numb which to me is one of the very finest tracks ever written.

Having said that I disliked, and still do, most of Dark Side of the Moon.

So for me, although I have to admit that PF are up there at the very pinnacle of their genre and that I greatly admire a good deal of their work, they have never, for me, been right up there at the top of my favourite band list.

As a young lad I never saw them live and I know not why as I saw nearly all of the other bands around at the time.

Just my thoughts

Cheers
Martin

Strangely I never got to see the Floyd, either.
Many, many other bands but not them and, to be honest, I've no idea why

Quote from: port perran on July 01, 2024, 07:37:32 PMSo for me, although I have to admit that PF are up there at the very pinnacle of their genre and that I greatly admire a good deal of their work, they have never, for me, been right up there at the top of my favourite band list.

That's your invite to Longcroft rescinded then.

Great stuff - those were the days Mick @Newportnobby , it wasn't Monty Don was it?

The only PF album I didn't have up to "The Wall" was "Obscured by Clouds" but I was heavily into their pre DSOTM work. When DSOTM was released many school chums liked it without knowing any of their previous work, which kind of says something. Personally, I think it is a masterpiece and better than WYWH. So PF were in my Premier League of bands along with Caravan (you will be pleased to know Martin @port perran ) . I did see PF live twice (1973 at Earl's Court and 1974 at Wembley Empire Pool).

"Meddle" was released in 1971 and in contrast this band released their second album in the same year, here they are with a brilliant slice of prog rock...

https://youtu.be/PeXuwHDYbvI?si=u_omIhB71xhZiaBk

Cheers,

Tim

Tonight, I har mostly been listening to 'Focus', from the crazy 'Hocus Pocus' to the sublime 'Eruption' from 'Moving Waves'.
I saw them donkey's years ago at the De Montfort Hall, Leicester and just sat transfixed by the music and musicianship of this great trio

Anyone watching the Netfix series "Bodkin" set in rural Ireland ?

I watched episode 3 last night in which, during a wake, there is a running gag where a group of old codgers discuss their favourite 1970s music.

Reminded me of some of the discussions in this topic