On the theme of etickets, I have just purchased tickets for Model World Live and at the same time train tickets to Birmingham International. I had the option of a ticket on my phone (no chance!) or print at home.
If my football team (Wolves) ever issue season tickets as etickets as West Ham do, i will not renew my season ticket. And what is this with admin fees when we do all the admin!
All this in the name of progress.

Chris

Quote from: PaulCheffus on March 25, 2024, 10:39:01 AM

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 25, 2024, 03:31:31 AM

Quote from: Papyrus on March 24, 2024, 02:21:06 PMPS. Don't get me started on 'keyless' car keys...

@Papyrus Being in possession of such, I'd like to know more please, Chris.
PM me if your rant isn't fit for the open forum

Hi

Car can be stolen without access to the key. I keep mine (key) in a Faraday pouch to prevent this.

Cheers

Paul

So do I, Paul

I do too. Getting it out of the pouch to get into the car is more effort than just pressing the button on the fob. The keyless entry is therefore of no use whatsoever and simply makes cars less secure. If I was buying a car new, I'd be asking if it was possible to disable the keyless function.

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 25, 2024, 03:31:31 AM@Papyrus Being in possession of such, I'd like to know more please, Chris.
PM me if your rant isn't fit for the open forum

Well, it wasn't really going to be a rant. but I can make it one if you want! A few days ago (about the time I was wrestling with Ticketmaster, actually), my car very thoughtfully told me I needed to change the key battery. I always keep a couple of spares for this very reason, so I dutifully did as I was told, whereupon the key stopped working altogether! Tried another battery... dead. Thinking that the batteries had been in my possession for a while, I thought they might have lost a bit of charge, although they were well within the use by date, so I bought some more and that still made no difference. Fortunately, we have 2 keys, so we were able to use the car. I took it to the local garage and asked what I was doing wrong. They took out the 'new' battery and put in a 'new' one. Bingo! It now works. You explain it.

This is in addition to what others have said about having to keep the key in a cocoa tin to prevent the car being nicked. I don't bother with this - the car is kept in my garage which is 40 metres away from the house, and it's not a desirable make anyway (Skoda). I just think the additional layer of technology is totally unnecessary, especially when you consider that the key fob contains a 'proper' key anyway, so what is the point?

Rant over. Next!

Cheers,

Chris

For the vast majority of keyless fob car lock systems:

• Pressing the 'Lock' button once will lock the car and enable keyless entry, such that approaching the vehicle with the key fob will unlock it - no need to press any buttons on the fob. It's this state that is exploited by 'relay theft'.
• Pressing the 'Lock' button twice will lock the car and disable keyless entry. In this state 'relay theft' will fail. You'll need to press the 'Unlock' button or use the key to unlock the car.

No need to waste any money on faraday boxes, or worry needlessly. Just RTFM.

Quote from: RailGooner on March 25, 2024, 06:18:56 PMPressing the 'Lock' button twice will lock the car and disable keyless entry. In this state 'relay theft' will fail. You'll need to press the 'Unlock' button or use the key to unlock the car.

No need to waste any money on faraday boxes, or worry needlessly. Just RTFM.

My Qashqai actually has no keys/keyholes. It's purely key fob entry

Quote from: Papyrus on March 25, 2024, 05:34:21 PMThey took out the 'new' battery and put in a 'new' one. Bingo! It now works. You explain it.

In my experience of replacing several key fob batteries for different cars I find the solution is to use a decent make, eg Duracell as many of the others simply don't work.

Quote from: RailGooner on March 25, 2024, 06:18:56 PMFor the vast majority of keyless fob car lock systems:

• Pressing the 'Lock' button once will lock the car and enable keyless entry, such that approaching the vehicle with the key fob will unlock it - no need to press any buttons on the fob. It's this state that is exploited by 'relay theft'.
• Pressing the 'Lock' button twice will lock the car and disable keyless entry. In this state 'relay theft' will fail. You'll need to press the 'Unlock' button or use the key to unlock the car.

No need to waste any money on faraday boxes, or worry needlessly. Just RTFM.

Hi

Doesn't work for my car Hyundai i30n 2023 model. Pressing the lock button twice using the key fob does indeed lock the car and the indicators blink twice, however with the key fob in my pocket I can open the car by pressing the button on the handle.

I'll continue with my Faraday pouch.

Cheers

Paul

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 25, 2024, 06:55:29 PM

Quote from: RailGooner on March 25, 2024, 06:18:56 PMPressing the 'Lock' button twice will lock the car and disable keyless entry. In this state 'relay theft' will fail. You'll need to press the 'Unlock' button or use the key to unlock the car.

No need to waste any money on faraday boxes, or worry needlessly. Just RTFM.

My Qashqai actually has no keys/keyholes. It's purely key fob entry

I suspect it actually has. There should be an emergency key in the fob, with a release catch, and probably part of the handle trim pops off to reveal the key hole.

(My sister had a Cashcow)

Quote from: emjaybee on March 26, 2024, 02:33:50 PM

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 25, 2024, 06:55:29 PM

Quote from: RailGooner on March 25, 2024, 06:18:56 PMPressing the 'Lock' button twice will lock the car and disable keyless entry. In this state 'relay theft' will fail. You'll need to press the 'Unlock' button or use the key to unlock the car.

No need to waste any money on faraday boxes, or worry needlessly. Just RTFM.

My Qashqai actually has no keys/keyholes. It's purely key fob entry

I suspect it actually has. There should be an emergency key in the fob, with a release catch, and probably part of the handle trim pops off to reveal the key hole.

(My sister had a Cashcow)

By Heck - you is quite right. Both fobs have a key hidden inside 'em but more embarrassingly I found a keyhole on the driver's side I'd not noticed before. Just shows my powers of observation are minimal
There is no keyhole passenger side but who needs passengers anyway
(Yes, yes, yes - I know once I've opened the car they can get in))

Quote from: Trainfish on March 26, 2024, 12:56:40 AMIn my experience of replacing several key fob batteries for different cars I find the solution is to use a decent make, eg Duracell as many of the others simply don't work.

The Duracell ones were what I bought. I can only assume I was doing something stoopid. And, before you ask, I had removed the little piece of sticky paper.

Cheers,

Chris

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 26, 2024, 03:01:20 PM

Quote from: emjaybee on March 26, 2024, 02:33:50 PM

Quote from: Newportnobby on March 25, 2024, 06:55:29 PM

Quote from: RailGooner on March 25, 2024, 06:18:56 PMPressing the 'Lock' button twice will lock the car and disable keyless entry. In this state 'relay theft' will fail. You'll need to press the 'Unlock' button or use the key to unlock the car.

No need to waste any money on faraday boxes, or worry needlessly. Just RTFM.

My Qashqai actually has no keys/keyholes. It's purely key fob entry

I suspect it actually has. There should be an emergency key in the fob, with a release catch, and probably part of the handle trim pops off to reveal the key hole.

(My sister had a Cashcow)

By Heck - you is quite right. Both fobs have a key hidden inside 'em but more embarrassingly I found a keyhole on the driver's side I'd not noticed before. Just shows my powers of observation are minimal
There is no keyhole passenger side but who needs passengers anyway
(Yes, yes, yes - I know once I've opened the car they can get in))

Ta-da!

Quote from: Papyrus on March 26, 2024, 06:07:17 PM

Quote from: Trainfish on March 26, 2024, 12:56:40 AMIn my experience of replacing several key fob batteries for different cars I find the solution is to use a decent make, eg Duracell as many of the others simply don't work.

The Duracell ones were what I bought. I can only assume I was doing something stoopid. And, before you ask, I had removed the little piece of sticky paper.

Cheers,

Chris

Something stoopid you say? Ok, here are a couple of possibilities 

Did you put the battery in the right way up?
Did you put the cover back on the fob before trying it as some have a battery contact on the cover.

I'm not trying to be a smart arse but you did say it could be something stoopid 

Quote from: Trainfish on March 24, 2024, 03:02:01 PMSounds like the 'norm' for tickets these days unfortunately @Papyrus. I also print out the so called e-tickets just in case the system is down when I get there. I do this for any tickets including rail. I remember a little while back when the rail ticketing system went down in London (possibly the rest of the country too) and nobody could access their tickets during rush hour.

Back to Octopus. In 'fairness' they have today responded withing 15 minutes to my latest email and say they have logged an official complaint for me. They have said they can't refund more than the credit which is in my account as of now but I think they've completely missed my point in that if they hadn't taken the extra payment then my account would have been £225 or thereabouts in credit at the time of my payment on the 10th. The next point I will raise with them is that if I hadn't changed my payment date then the £225 would still be in my account and not theirs. As I see it this is 100% their mistake in taking 2 payments and not mine for changing the payment date. Unless of course anyone here disagrees?

Issue resolved 

They have offered me £60 credit on my account which takes my balance just over the £225 meaning they can/will now refund the £225 and I have had £60 worth of free gas and electric which lasted about 8.13 days by my calculations.
I do wonder though if it had needed £80 (or more) to take my balance over the £225 would they then have refunded that amount instead? If the answer is yes and I had known I would have had the heating on full blast for the past 2 weeks.

got the notification of my postal vote for the new [or old useless] P&CC election the other day.
 
never met her
 
put the precept up by 5.4% this year.
 
never see a plod, except on blues and 2's heading towards Tescos, so assume doughnuts running out.
 
last time I saw a plod / BMW 4x4 jam sandwhich down our road was three years ago.
 
remember plod on foot or bike ?
20 years ago.
 
101
'Your call is important, please hold'
 
999
'all our operators are busy, please hold'
 
local police station open 2 hours per day, monday to friday
 

is there any point ?