Mathieson Models wagons

TalyllynJon · January 12, 2019, 11:05:02 PM

I've been steadily building a little collection of private owner wagons from South Wales collieries. I've just discovered the, now defunct, Mathieson Models. There are a few listed on Ebay, but they all seem to be in pairs. Is this how they were originally sold? They seem to fetch pretty high prices - but I'm reluctant to pay top dollar for a pair of wagons when I'm only interested in one of them.

Railwaygun · January 13, 2019, 06:22:26 AM

I presume you know about these??

http://www.robbiesrollingstock.co.uk/New%20Wales.htm

TalyllynJon · January 13, 2019, 12:31:56 PM

I've seen the Robbie's Rolling Stock website - but don't know much about them. Has anybody bought any of his wagons and if so, what do you think?

NinOz · January 13, 2019, 01:08:29 PM

Quote from: TalyllynJon on January 13, 2019, 12:31:56 PM
I've seen the Robbie's Rolling Stock website - but don't know much about them. Has anybody bought any of his wagons and if so, what do you think?

Here is a post with pic:
https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=6331.4500

thebrighton · January 13, 2019, 01:11:28 PM

Quote from: TalyllynJon on January 12, 2019, 11:05:02 PM
I've been steadily building a little collection of private owner wagons from South Wales collieries. I've just discovered the, now defunct, Mathieson Models. There are a few listed on Ebay, but they all seem to be in pairs. Is this how they were originally sold? They seem to fetch pretty high prices - but I'm reluctant to pay top dollar for a pair of wagons when I'm only interested in one of them.

I've loads of their wagons and they were all bought individually.

thebrighton · January 13, 2019, 01:13:11 PM

Quote from: TalyllynJon on January 13, 2019, 12:31:56 PM
I've seen the Robbie's Rolling Stock website - but don't know much about them. Has anybody bought any of his wagons and if so, what do you think?

He doesn't sell wagons, just the transfers. They are primarily designed for Peco wagons but he will resize them for you to fit other makes. Easy to use, one piece transfer.

Cutter · January 13, 2019, 02:44:51 PM

The Mathieson wagons were sold individually and are great models if you can find them. They represent an earlier shorter wheelbase wagon than the Peco model and add variety to a rake. The transparent couplings are great.
Since you can't print white with a regular printer Robbie's transfers are transparent where white lettering is needed and you have to paint the wagon gloss white before applying them. He is a great guy to do business with and will make new designs for you and add them to his catalogue after so you can get custom transfers for obscure collieries or merchants.

ntpntpntp · January 13, 2019, 03:02:56 PM

In 2017 I bought a couple of pairs of Mathiesons from eBay. Same seller and similar price to the current listings. They are very nice, though personally I'm not convinced the transparent couplings are actually an improvement - I think it actually draws attention to them.

I'd say if they're the wagons you particularly want then buy them while they're available, if you end up with duplicates you can always try selling them on on here, on ebay, at an exhibition or whatever. Or maybe renumber one of the pair?

Rabbitaway · January 13, 2019, 04:31:52 PM

Hi

I have used Robbies transfers on numerous wagons with great success, see link below

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=22317.0

anaes20 · January 13, 2019, 08:39:04 PM

Mathieson Models was a one-man show and produced a range of fabulous wagons featuring Welsh collieries. He stopped production around 6 years ago. I got several of them, the clear couplers are definitely unique. They are indeed now a bit hard to find perhaps because they are so collectable. It may well be that these, like Micro-Trains Line stock on the American side, attract collectors who push the second-hand prices up.

Robbie used to sell wagons but lately has gone over to transfers. He did special commission wagons for several people. I would imagine he would do the same for transfers.

Omar / anaes20.

Cutter · January 13, 2019, 11:29:26 PM

Robbie made two custom transfers for me -- for Atso-Cad's LNER brick wagon and for one of the coal merchants at Welwyn North. I am a very happy customer!

TalyllynJon · January 14, 2019, 12:01:02 AM

Thanks for all the useful comments guys. I've just snapped up a pair of Mathieson Models wagons on Ebay (got outbid on another pair!).

TalyllynJon · January 16, 2019, 12:33:09 PM

Mathieson Models wagons arrived this morning. They are lovely little things, so I'll definitely be on the lookout for more.

TalyllynJon · January 15, 2020, 11:21:30 PM

I picked up a few Mathieson Models wagons last year. Mostly on eBay and mostly for about £10-£15. Not cheap for a small, open wagon, but they're nice models and quite rare. There seems to a bunch of them turning up on eBay at the moment, but they seem to be selling for about £30 each which is mad! What's going on?

ntpntpntp · January 15, 2020, 11:27:21 PM

Quote from: TalyllynJon on January 15, 2020, 11:21:30 PM
There seems to a bunch of them turning up on eBay at the moment, but they seem to be selling for about £30 each which is mad! What's going on?

Are they actually selling at that price or just listed but going round and round without selling? If selling then it just indicates the perceived rarity/desirability I guess.