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Re: Dapol 2014/5 catalogue
« Reply #45 on: March 22, 2014, 06:26:58 PM »
I noticed a post from Julian, so seems i am partially right!!...


......."I was speaking with Joel today at Ally Pally, and I commented that it was nice to see some of the old models being produced again, as I thought it was a bit of a waste of the tooling. He said that on many of the models they were going to start again, just using the original CAD drawings as a starting point. They are also,exploring coreless motors. Capacity issues in China are their big problem. It seems that if a big Japanese order comes in their small runs get postponed at very short notice. He's looking to do more UK production. They've started on doing the containers in house and are going to move onto the signals. Seems to be all about getting there by small steps. They've obtained the neighbouring factory unit at Chirk.
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Re: Dapol 2014/5 catalogue
« Reply #46 on: March 22, 2014, 06:35:57 PM »
Is that a hint that the 45xx and the M7 are going to be with decent chassis?

I hope so, would love them but got rid of the 5 45xx and the M7 I had cos they were rubbish!!

Best wishes and hopeful

Simon

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Re: Dapol 2014/5 catalogue
« Reply #47 on: March 22, 2014, 06:43:44 PM »
I spoke to Dapol on their stand today, and asked if they'd like to do an Electrostar or three. They did not seem overly enthusiastic about that, in spite of the obvious advantages.

So I asked them about a class 116. "It's all very well doing single-car high-density suburban units; what about a three-car unit?" I asked. They thought for a while, then said that that sounded like a good idea, and they would go away and think about it. "Watch this space," they said.
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Re: Dapol 2014/5 catalogue
« Reply #48 on: March 22, 2014, 07:54:21 PM »
A scan of the N section of the new catalogue can be found here

http://www.ness-st.co.uk/N-gauge-catalogues.html

Please note it is reproduced by permission of Joel Bright of Dapol.


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Re: Dapol 2014/5 catalogue
« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2014, 08:30:50 PM »
Thanks for providing a link to the catalogue, it's answered some of my queries:

Firstly, the 153 described as Northern Trans Pennine is painted in the ex-FNW blue and gold scheme with Northern logos.

Secondly, the 2014/15 spec 9Fs will have a tungsten chassis with painted metal wheels after all  :claphappy: now I feel happier about the prospect of owning one of my favourite steam locos  :thumbsup:

Thirdly, the Maunsell carriages represent the early 1926-28 59' Restriction 4 (9ft wide) batches built with low side-corridor windows, the last being withdrawn in 1961. None of the passenger-carrying versions as modelled by Dapol currently survive in preservation.
The Van Cs were built 1936-40 and lasted well into the 70s and early 80s, several Van Cs (BR BY) survive on several heritage sites.
Running numbers of examples modelled:
BTK 4048-4051, also BSK (for Newhaven boat trains) 4481-2;
TK 769-778, 783-832, 2349-2355, also SK (for Newhaven boat trains) 4483-6;
CK 5138-50;
FK 7208-27, 7665-74
Van C 400-49, 651-800
Source: Maunsell's SR steam passenger stock 1923-1939 by David Gould (Oakwood Press, 1978)


« Last Edit: March 22, 2014, 08:34:55 PM by gc4946, Reason: Clarification of SR prototype information »
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Re: Dapol 2014/5 catalogue
« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2014, 08:50:10 PM »
Hmmm class 142's listed STILL and more importantly for me class 59 listed. Worth a pre-order or should I wait to 2016?

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Re: Dapol 2014/5 catalogue
« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2014, 08:57:51 PM »
Interested to read the selection of weathered locos available. If these are to the same standard as the class 22 and previous 9F then I will be a very happy camper. :thumbsup:
Well, that's just not good enough. Some fount of all knowledge you are!  :no:  ;)

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Re: Dapol 2014/5 catalogue
« Reply #52 on: March 22, 2014, 09:00:15 PM »
Am still a little confused as to whether the older models will have new chassis, hope so. The mention of Tungsten chassis, is that a development ordid the original ones have them as well, anybody know?

Also still no mention of the sorely missing Mk3 TGS, for crying out loud Dapol listen to your customers!!

Best wishes
Simon

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Re: Dapol 2014/5 catalogue
« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2014, 09:48:17 PM »
Am still a little confused as to whether the older models will have new chassis, hope so. The mention of Tungsten chassis, is that a development ordid the original ones have them as well, anybody know?
The originals did not have tungsten chassis. However nor did they have tenders (which the catalogue mentions  :doh: ) so I suspect they may have cut and pasted a generic steam loco spec there. I have posted the same question on their facebook page but I suspect it will be next week before we get an answer.
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Re: Dapol 2014/5 catalogue
« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2014, 09:54:37 PM »

Hi Simon

On the Mk3 coaches page at the top is states clearly that the TGS is in development.

cheers

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Re: Dapol 2014/5 catalogue
« Reply #55 on: March 23, 2014, 07:40:39 AM »
Thanks for providing a link to the catalogue, it's answered some of my queries:

Firstly, the 153 described as Northern Trans Pennine is painted in the ex-FNW blue and gold scheme with Northern logos.

Secondly, the 2014/15 spec 9Fs will have a tungsten chassis with painted metal wheels after all  :claphappy: now I feel happier about the prospect of owning one of my favourite steam locos  :thumbsup:

Thirdly, the Maunsell carriages represent the early 1926-28 59' Restriction 4 (9ft wide) batches built with low side-corridor windows, the last being withdrawn in 1961. None of the passenger-carrying versions as modelled by Dapol currently survive in preservation.
The Van Cs were built 1936-40 and lasted well into the 70s and early 80s, several Van Cs (BR BY) survive on several heritage sites.
Running numbers of examples modelled:
BTK 4048-4051, also BSK (for Newhaven boat trains) 4481-2;
TK 769-778, 783-832, 2349-2355, also SK (for Newhaven boat trains) 4483-6;
CK 5138-50;
FK 7208-27, 7665-74
Van C 400-49, 651-800
Source: Maunsell's SR steam passenger stock 1923-1939 by David Gould (Oakwood Press, 1978)

I always thought the Northern Trans Pennine livery was the pink carried by the class 158's when Arriva operated the Trans Pennine express service.

My worst fears I thought all the early information was showing Maunsell  low-window 6 compartment brakes, not a good choice in my opinion. Still at least I know what to buy now either Farish Bullieds or nothing.

I have been told that manufacturers now announce a model and only start work when sufficient interest has been shown.

Dodger

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Re: Dapol 2014/5 catalogue
« Reply #56 on: March 23, 2014, 08:10:57 AM »
Well that is quite a list!  Hopefully they will paint the wheels on the next batch of Britannia's.  Still no Gresley coaches in maroon.

Paddy

Blackened wheels on the new Brits apparently.

I've got some maroon Gresleys I was about to saw up for sleepers. Drop me a note if you want to swap or similar

Thanks EtchedPixels but it looks like they may be releasing a new batch of maroon Gresley coaches so I will wait for those.

Many thanks

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Re: Dapol 2014/5 catalogue
« Reply #57 on: March 23, 2014, 08:39:28 AM »
Thirdly, the Maunsell carriages represent the early 1926-28 59' Restriction 4 (9ft wide) batches built with low side-corridor windows, the last being withdrawn in 1961. None of the passenger-carrying versions as modelled by Dapol currently survive in preservation.
Thanks for this information. It is a shame they have not chosen to include a composite brake in the lineup as this would have enabled the BTK-BCK sets that were common in the west country behind an M7 or O2 to be modelled. Ah well, I shall have to settle for a 3-car set.
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Re: Dapol 2014/5 catalogue
« Reply #58 on: March 23, 2014, 08:58:21 AM »
Happy teddy, see they are doing a re-run of the FGW HST so I can at last get a second set.   :)

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Re: Dapol 2014/5 catalogue
« Reply #59 on: March 23, 2014, 09:30:01 AM »
Thirdly, the Maunsell carriages represent the early 1926-28 59' Restriction 4 (9ft wide) batches built with low side-corridor windows, the last being withdrawn in 1961. None of the passenger-carrying versions as modelled by Dapol currently survive in preservation.
Thanks for this information. It is a shame they have not chosen to include a composite brake in the lineup as this would have enabled the BTK-BCK sets that were common in the west country behind an M7 or O2 to be modelled. Ah well, I shall have to settle for a 3-car set.

If Dapol had produced a four-compartment BTK, then it would have been possible to model the 1926-28 3-coach West of England sets formed as BTK (4 compt) + CK + BTK (4 compt) and still have "loose" TKs and FKs to augment the formation.
Following that option would have meant up to 14 3-car sets could have been prototypically assembled (sets 390-399, 445-448) some of them were used from the early 50s on the Somerset & Dorset and the last were withdrawn in 1961.
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