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HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C)
« on: February 12, 2013, 03:33:04 pm »
Hi Folks,

BASEBOARD

Well I thought I would start a thread to cover the creation of my train set - HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  This is actually Mark II as the first (BODDINGFORD JUNCTION) was destroyed by damp after a house move.  Luckily it was insured so it was not a complete disaster.  ;)

What I learned from BODDINGFORD JUNCTION was that 6' x 4' is BIG in N gauge so with Mark II I reduced the baseboard size to 80cm wide x 185cm long x 87cm high.  Also, not being any good at DIY my kind wife ordered the baseboard from White Rose Modelworks in North Yorkshire for my 40th birthday.

http://www.whiterosemodelworks.co.uk/

I highly recommend White Rose - the quality of the board and service is first class.

Anyway, to whet your appetites here is a photo of the baseboard assembled, front edge painted black (by me!) and the backscenes (also painted by me) attached.



Many thanks

Paddy
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 03:51:36 pm »
Nice Piece of woodwork you have there  :goggleeyes:

Now "Add Track You Must"  :-X

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2013, 04:00:32 pm »
Thanks SwissTony - can't take any credit for that though.  :D

Your request is my command...  Here is a test fit of the track.



The track plan is based on one of Hornby's OO layouts and was converted to N Gauge using WinRail.  The layout is called COMMERCIAL ROAD and was created for Hornby by Scenic Model Railways.  HOLLERTON JUNCTION has a very similar track plan - one less siding if memory serves to get it to fit.

http://www.scenicmodelrailways.com/ourlayouts.html

Many thanks

Paddy
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2013, 04:35:29 pm »
BASEBOARD CONTINUED

The next challenge was noise.  The baseboards from White Rose are made from high quality MDF and when track is laid directly on top it is noisy.  On my first layout I elected to use PECO foam underlay and whilst it looks OK it was hard to make the tack level and running suffered as a result.

My solution was to cover the baseboard top with Fibre Board - the stuff that is placed under laminate flooring.  Packs of 10 sheets can be bought from B&Q (~19) and it I used about 3 of them.  The remainder I placed on eBay (buyer collects) and they sold easily!

Here is a photo showing the baseboard covered with Fibre Board.



You can also see the layout plan attached to one of the backscene boards.  ;)

Many thanks

Paddy
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2013, 05:16:50 pm »
Great to see progress is being made on Hollerton Junction. Nice one, Paddy :thumbsup:

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2013, 06:37:56 pm »
That looks like a nice space you have there Paddy, I will definitely be keeping a lookout for progress reports  ;)

cheers John.

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2013, 06:50:40 pm »
Everything looks really well made so far  :thumbsup: Although i have to say, can a layout ever be too big  ;D

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2013, 08:31:39 pm »
Thanks everyone.  One of the reasons for starting this thread is to give me the discipline to make progress on HOLLERTON JUNCTION.  There will be more postings over the coming weeks as you all keep me honest!  :worried:

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2013, 10:03:38 am »
BASEBOARD CONTINUED

My next challenge was to cover the surface of the Fibre Board so that it was sealed and gave realistic (I use this term loosely) ground cover.

In one of the older Hornby track plan books they seemed to have laid the track on top of ballast and l liked the look of this effect.  I wondered how Hornby had done this... was it scatter material or some form of matting?  I found it hard to believe Hornby would use scatter so ordered a couple of rolls of Hornby granite mat believing this to be the "simple" solution - big mistake.

Hornby's mat comes rolled up and is basically lining paper with grey scatter glued to it - a lot of which falls off!  It is also not very flexible and where it has been rolled there tends to be creases etc.  Suffice to say this option did not work and looked awful after I had stuck it down.  :(

Much head scratching ensued whilst my poor baseboard lay in ruins - well not that bad but I was disappointed.  After a few days I decided action had to be taken and I bought some thick mounting card from a local art shop, removed the mat and resurfaced the baseboard.  The results were good as you can see in the following photo.



So back to square one.  I had a smooth neat surface but no ground cover.  I thought about using scatter material, paint or even reverting to PECO foam underlay.  Whilst wandering around B&Q, I came across a spray paint called Plasti-Kote Stone Touch.

http://www.diy.com/nav/decor/paint/specialist-paints/spray_paint/-specificproducttype-black___grey/Plasti-kote-Stone-Touch-Spray-Gotham-Grey-400ml-9254009?skuId=9261708

I bought a can to test and the results were excellent.  It took a couple of coats to evenly cover my baseboard but the effect was perfect for me.  In terms of colour, it looks like the moulded ballast on the Tomix N gauge track - almost a perfect match I would say.  Here is a photo of the effect.



Now I had a good solid, flat baseboard with a very effective ground cover ready for track laying.  Remember, this is "my" train set and I have very clear ideas about what I want to achieve.  :)

To finish this post, here is a photo of the track laid on to the Plasti-Kote ground cover.



I have learnt a lot (personal experimentation and from others) whilst building HOLLERTON JUNCTION and one of the reasons for this thread is to share this knowledge.  Hopefully some people will be able to avoid the mistakes I have made by reading this.

Many thanks

Paddy
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2013, 02:19:39 pm »
That looks good, might find a use for that myself. Will you still be balasting the track?

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION - THE TRAIN SET I ALWAYS WANTED...
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2013, 02:31:50 pm »
That looks good, might find a use for that myself. Will you still be balasting the track?


Hi Matt94,

No, I will not be ballasting the track, the effect I am after can be seen here:

http://www.thebroomroom.co.uk/portfolio/print-portfolio/hornby-track-layouts/

What I can report is that I get excellent running.  All my locos run quite happily through the PECO Setrack points, no stalling.  This includes the short wheelbase locos.  I assume this is down to the fact the track is flat/level?

Many thanks

Paddy
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2013, 10:51:26 am »
ELECTRICS

If I thought the baseboard and track plan were a challenge then "electrics" (and I am not talking EMUs here!) filled me with fear.  As I was returning to the hobby after 20 years I thought this area must have got easier.  I was sure PECO would have simple solutions for neatly attaching power wires to the rails and to provide isolated sections (in addition to those provided by the points).

Er, no.  PECO still sell their rather large brass power clips (Part# ST-9) which have now gone from being a slightly more discrete black colour to bright yellow!  In OO, PECO sell a straight track that has a built in isolating switch and I assumed this would be available in N gauge.  You've guessed it, the answer is "Er, no".  This means I had to place a rather large order with Expo Tools for wire, soldering iron etc. just to wire up a train set.

Whilst my track plan is not that complicated it does require 15 isolating switches and I needed a neat way to house these.  Many weeks of research in to all manner of "control panel" options lead me to the idea of having a mini keyboard case with the switches in rows.  Also, the cost of PECO switches seemed rather high and I was advised to buy similar SPST toggle switches from Rapid Electronics.

My black keyboard case (Part# A0519009) was sourced from a company called OKW Enclosures Limited and whilst not cheap (~34) is of lovely quality.  The case measures 19cm wide x 14cm deep x 5cm high, full details can be found at http://www.okw.co.uk/products/okw/desk.htm.



As mentioned above I bought 16 black SPST toggle switches from Rapid Electronics (Part# 78-0193) at a total cost of 16 - about 1 per switch.  An absolute bargain and again they are beautifully made.



To get this far on the electrical side had taken seven months and this is with a lot of help and support from the N Gauge Yahoo Group.  I would not say N gauge model railways are "user friendly" or understand the concept of "Plug & Play"!

Word of warning about the OKW keyboard case - it is of VERY high quality (as one would expect for that price) and making holes in the top for the switches to go through is not easy.  The case is made from very tough plastic.  Also, you will need some rubber washers to stop the switches moving - I bought 25mm hose washers from B&Q (Part# WB501QV2).

After calculating the spacing of the switches so I ended up with 3 rows of 5 (see photo below) I covered the top of the case with masking tape so I did not scratch it whilst drilling.  I used a Zircon mini drill with a Bosch 5mm drill bit to create the holes and a flat needle file to smooth the edges.

Before fitting the switches I washed the case in warm soapy water and placed it in the airing cupboard to dry thoroughly.



Many thanks

Paddy
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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2013, 12:11:32 pm »
Fascinating read Paddy, and great fun to watch your progress through this project, and good of you to share your mistakes along with your successes.
Personally I don't like the Hornby look, but as you rightly said its your layout and you know the look you are after.

Having read it from start to finish again, I can't help but imagine you are or have been involved in technical authoring or quality  :D

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2013, 12:24:49 pm »
Fascinating read Paddy, and great fun to watch your progress through this project, and good of you to share your mistakes along with your successes.
Personally I don't like the Hornby look, but as you rightly said its your layout and you know the look you are after.

Having read it from start to finish again, I can't help but imagine you are or have been involved in technical authoring or quality  :D

Hi Lawrence,

Thank you for your kind words.  Trust me I have made many mistakes along the way and wasted a lot of money trying out different options.  If I can save others some time and money then my efforts will have been worthwhile.

As for technical authoring/quality - not really.  Although I have spent almost half of my professional life to date in technical/customer support management.  Also, I have had a book published so one tries.  :)

I see you list your location as Fife?  I grew up in St Andrews although I live in England now.  Absolutely love Scotland and we try to get back once a year.  Before you ask about "Paddy" - I was born in England of Irish descent and grew up in Scotland!  Not sure what that makes me...

Many thanks

Paddy

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Re: HOLLERTON JUNCTION (SHED 13C) - The Train Set I Always Wanted...
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2013, 12:55:13 pm »
Fascinating read Paddy, and great fun to watch your progress through this project, and good of you to share your mistakes along with your successes.
Personally I don't like the Hornby look, but as you rightly said its your layout and you know the look you are after.

Having read it from start to finish again, I can't help but imagine you are or have been involved in technical authoring or quality  :D

Hi Lawrence,

Thank you for your kind words.  Trust me I have made many mistakes along the way and wasted a lot of money trying out different options.  If I can save others some time and money then my efforts will have been worthwhile.

As for technical authoring/quality - not really.  Although I have spent almost half of my professional life to date in technical/customer support management.  Also, I have had a book published so one tries.  :)

I see you list your location as Fife?  I grew up in St Andrews although I live in England now.  Absolutely love Scotland and we try to get back once a year.  Before you ask about "Paddy" - I was born in England of Irish descent and grew up in Scotland!  Not sure what that makes me...

Many thanks

Paddy

Confused!!  :D

I work about 10 mins from StA's where things are all up in the air at the moment (literally!)and live in a small village on the south bank of the Tay between the bridges, I'm sure you'll know the places.

 

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