Quote from: zwilnik on October 14, 2022, 11:09:55 PM

Quote from: Bob G on October 14, 2022, 06:28:11 PM

It will end up bought by well-meaning grannies for little lads who then find out it doesn't work with their OO.

Just my thoughts.

Bob

Albeit only that small subset of well meaning grannies who can use the internet and buy stuff from the Hornby website of course..

The only grannie, well meaning or otherwise, in my family is the wife.
She, along with my adult children, get a list, along with part numbers, and which retailers to buy from, so what I get is appropriate for my layout 

John P

My experience with TT120 is relegated to a static A4 and a completely scratchbuilt model of another streamliner. I think it was a novel step between N and OO, enough detailing to make it pop as a display piece but hogs up less space on the table compared to larger scales. Detailing on the new Hornby TT range looks comparable to modern OO except for the giant couplings. Wonder how much tooling was just computer design scaled down to suit? Not in a rush to order anything myself but once Hornby's TT range is out it'll be interesting enough to see whether it flies or falls.

The constructive intervention by @joe cassidy led me to the north American reaction, where one contribution referred to one of the big weaknesses of the Hornby online ordering system - its inability to combine shipping cost for multiple orders placed and delivered at one time. Each item ordered attracts a shipping cost at the time of ordering and this is still charged even when several items are delivered together. For several years I have pre-ordered Arnold grain wagons (all at once) and then had to phone Margate to recover a refund of the overcharged postage when they are all delivered together. Even our 50-something internet-savvy grannies will baulk at being charged extra shipping when the total order and delivery clears the free shipping threshold.

Quote from: zwilnik on October 14, 2022, 11:09:55 PM

Quote from: Bob G on October 14, 2022, 06:28:11 PM

It will end up bought by well-meaning grannies for little lads who then find out it doesn't work with their OO.

Just my thoughts.

Bob

Albeit only that small subset of well meaning grannies who can use the internet and buy stuff from the Hornby website of course..

I think I am at risk of becoming a well meaning person of experience who can't use the internet, and who has a poor experience of grannies!

Quote from: Bob G on October 14, 2022, 11:02:23 PM
@joe cassidy
I'm starting to think you are actually a TT120 modeller rather than an N scale modeller.

I'm still an N Gauge modeller (at time of writing) 

Judging by the number of members who say they are buying a bit of TT, and also those who have multiple scales in their possession, I wonder how many of us could be called "Collectors" rather than "Modellers"? I can see why some people like to flit between scales/gauges but I for one don't have the money or inclination to dilute my modelling. Am I unusual by sticking to an era/region/location? As I've got older, whereas once I would buy any Southern Region stock, now it has to be Eastern or Central section only. I have the odd bit of other region stuff that could have been seen in my chosen area, but nothing outside of that. How many others are the same? Maybe this needs another thread.......

Dave

Quote from: joe cassidy on October 15, 2022, 11:07:51 AM

Quote from: Bob G on October 14, 2022, 11:02:23 PM
@joe cassidy
I'm starting to think you are actually a TT120 modeller rather than an N scale modeller.

I'm still an N Gauge modeller (at time of writing) 

Sorry Joe. I was trying to be sarcastic, and I did indeed edit my original post appropriately this morning, as I could see it didn't hit the right note.
I want to be around here longer than the last Chancellor was

Bob

I want to be around here longer than the last Chancellor was

You don't set very tough challenges do you 

Quote from: Southerngooner on October 15, 2022, 11:15:08 AM
Judging by the number of members who say they are buying a bit of TT, and also those who have multiple scales in their possession, I wonder how many of us could be called "Collectors" rather than "Modellers"? I can see why some people like to flit between scales/gauges but I for one don't have the money or inclination to dilute my modelling. Am I unusual by sticking to an era/region/location? As I've got older, whereas once I would buy any Southern Region stock, now it has to be Eastern or Central section only. I have the odd bit of other region stuff that could have been seen in my chosen area, but nothing outside of that. How many others are the same? Maybe this needs another thread.......

Dave

I once knew someone modelling in EM who complained the OO manufacturers didn't make anything suitable for his summer of 1942 southern branch line somewhere near Andover, at a time when we N gauge modellers would be desperate to have anything Southern in N.

I too have gone from anything Southern to Central and Western section (Pompey lad), with a few concessions to Eastern section, and more than a few concessions to straying WR stock.

This is what happens when there is a better availability of stuff to collect.

I'm happy to stand up and say "My name is Bob, and I'm a Collector", but I have on my workbench right now a Farish China 8F chassis for a SR Z tank, and five UM locos in various stages of improvement, including removal of front couplings, renumbering, lining, and dulling down of shiny loco wheels and crank rods. So I guess I am also a modeller too. Thank goodness for that.

I have also moved to a less broad bandwidth of time, so I do 1950s/60s in N, and 1970s/early 80s in N. All the 1990s plus stock has been sold on.
I also have 00 1970s as that satiates my need for RTR EMUs.

I couldn't limit my modelling to a particular place and time. There would be far too many Rule 1 purchases, which I can partially avoid by modelling Eras rather than years.

Bob

Quote from: elmo on October 15, 2022, 11:29:53 AM
I want to be around here longer than the last Chancellor was

You don't set very tough challenges do you 

I was trying to stop it becoming too political, by keeping it to historic figures

As I have already "hinted" on here I hope that Hornby TT will be successful.

I also hope that it will take market share from OO gauge, and not from N.

Another factor that needs to be taken into consideration concerning the success of TT is the availability of rolling stock.

There are often posts on here about the difficulty in buying complete rakes of, for example, BR Mk1 coaches in N.

If the availability of TT coaches is better than that of N gauge coaches that might persuade some people to at least dabble in TT.

Quote from: Southerngooner on October 15, 2022, 11:15:08 AM
Judging by the number of members who say they are buying a bit of TT, and also those who have multiple scales in their possession, I wonder how many of us could be called "Collectors" rather than "Modellers"?

Guilty as charged  

I just love owning, handling and playing with model trains and so does my lad Yes Continental N is my main interest and the vast majority of my collection and I do "model" as in build layouts for it, but between the two of us we do seem to have at least a sample of just about every other major scale/gauge from T to 3.5".   I'm struggling for space to work on my stuff due to his HOe layout under construction at the moment

I find myself starting to daydream some ideas for a small portable/exhibitable British TT:120 layout just to make a change from the European stuff and for something to run the Hornby stuff around.  Just ordered half a dozen lengths of the Peco TT:120 track and a couple of their points to get a feel for it and test how well (or not) my ancient Triang TT sets will run on it.  Gawd knows where we'll store the boards if I do build a layout but....   

Sorry to go a bit off topic but I think the last time someone tried to relaunch a new scale to the train set market was the "Big Train" project in the 1980s or thereabouts.

It was, I believe, O gauge and I know there was a Hymek in the range because I read an article about superdetailing it a few years ago.

Can anyone remember who the manufacturer was ?

Quote from: joe cassidy on October 15, 2022, 12:02:29 PM
Sorry to go a bit off topic but I think the last time someone tried to relaunch a new scale to the train set market was the "Big Train" project in the 1980s or thereabouts.

It was, I believe, O gauge and I know there was a Hymek in the range because I read an article about superdetailing it a few years ago.

Can anyone remember who the manufacturer was ?

Triang.
Mark

...and no free TT:120 membership and 15% off for Aussies yet.

Quote from: joe cassidy on October 15, 2022, 12:02:29 PM
Sorry to go a bit off topic but I think the last time someone tried to relaunch a new scale to the train set market was the "Big Train" project in the 1980s or thereabouts.

It was, I believe, O gauge and I know there was a Hymek in the range because I read an article about superdetailing it a few years ago.

Can anyone remember who the manufacturer was ?

Tri-ang did "Big Big" which was O gauge battery powered on plastic track from 1966 - 1972.
Lines group which included Rovex was spilt up in 1971. Dunbee Combex Marx group acquired Rovex.
The tools were then sent to Russia and Novo supplied DCM with Novo Big Big which were sold as Novo Toys Ltd from 1975 - 1980.
It gets more complicated than this as there were also retooled licensed lookalike products from Lima in Europe, AMF in the US and a pirate version called Red Rocket in Hong Kong.