Class 23 Baby Deltic - did it even get off the ground?

Started by Newportnobby, February 17, 2022, 08:41:03 PM

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Newportnobby

Have to say I, for one, was gutted when DJ Models went belly up as I had a class 23 on pre order. Some of his models have been snapped up by EFE e.g. Class 28, Mermaids and Sharks but I'm not aware the tooling for the class 23 ever got started so maybe there's nothing there for anyone to take on. I appreciate maybe more modellers would like a class 21/29 but they might get one should Dapol use a shrinkray on theirs. In fact, I can't think of anyone's layout prototypically requiring a class 23 so maybe mine is a lone voice??
I need RTR for physical reasons so no need to suggest alternatives

robt857

Likewise, I was also intending to purchase a DJM class 23, maybe 2.  In fact I ordered a class 17 from DJM as it appeared at the time that the success of the DJM class 17, would drive the case for developing a Class 23 as the next project.
If a new class 23 appeared I would definitely be interested.

Rob

railsquid

Quote from: Newportnobby on February 17, 2022, 08:41:03 PM
Have to say I, for one, was gutted when DJ Models went belly up as I had a class 23 on pre order. Some of his models have been snapped up by EFE e.g. Class 28

Was he planning a Class 28? There was the Class 17 which went to EFE, but the only 28 I recall is the one Rapido are doing .

Bingley Hall

I saw all 10 of the 23s in service, but have no huge desire for one in RTR. Their sphere and span of operation was extremely limited.

My personal dream, which I doubt will ever be fulfilled would be for a 15, but while there were more of them, again their sphere of operation was not much greater than the 23s, and their lifespan much the same as the 23s. 

Newportnobby

Quote from: railsquid on February 17, 2022, 11:35:28 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 17, 2022, 08:41:03 PM
Have to say I, for one, was gutted when DJ Models went belly up as I had a class 23 on pre order. Some of his models have been snapped up by EFE e.g. Class 28

Was he planning a Class 28? There was the Class 17 which went to EFE, but the only 28 I recall is the one Rapido are doing .

@railsquid  :oopssign: Brain fart!! I did, of course, mean the class 17 and, like @robt857 would have taken a weathered twin pack off DJM but that offer never came from EFE.
I tried to persuade Rapido to do a twin pack with their class 28 but got the usual reply. Seems only Dapol offer some of their products as dummy versions and that's probably stopped now.

Shropshire Lad

With these guys,
https://www.babydeltic.co.uk/
making some great progress a model will hopefully become more attractive to a manufacturer.
Cheers Colin

Southerngooner

Rapido have dropped heavy hints about a 15 coming after the 28.....

Dave
Dave

Builder of "Brickmakers Lane" and member of "James Street" operating team.

Bob G

Quote from: Southerngooner on February 18, 2022, 09:04:18 AM
Rapido have dropped heavy hints about a 15 coming after the 28.....

Dave
That would be great as they sneaked onto the southern with trip freights to south London (as did 16s, 20s, 25s, 27s...). All good excuses for variety :)
Bob

Bob G

And how would you justify a class 23 in Oxfordshire, Mick?
I thought they spent most of their time in store at Stratford he he.

Bob

(proud owner of two class 17s on his Southern layout)

martyn

 :offtopicsign:@Bob G ;

Typically, I can't find the reference, but I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere that a pair of 15s escaped to Brighton on an excursion, though this seems a bit unlikely as the Southern crew wouldn't 'sign' the class; unless the Stratford crew worked through. If I find the reference, I'll try and remember to post it.

Martyn

Later;

Source; 'British Rail fleet survey' vol 1 by Haresnape;

".....the writer well recalls seeing a pair working through Gatwick Airport......on a seaside special from East London".

Even more excuse for you....

I believe that B1s did similar workings occasionally.

Martyn

Bob G

Quote from: martyn on February 18, 2022, 11:22:04 AM
I believe that B1s did similar workings occasionally.

Martyn

Thanks. Even more fun double headed.

But the only good use of a B1 chassis (Dapol) is to fit under an S15. One of Ross's @RBTKraisee 's future ideas  :)

Bob


Bob G


PennineWagons

Quote from: Shropshire Lad on February 18, 2022, 06:34:27 AM
With these guys,
https://www.babydeltic.co.uk/
making some great progress a model will hopefully become more attractive to a manufacturer.
Cheers Colin


An interesting project which looks to making significant progress. Good luck to them.
On their website they make a number of references to the 'donor loco' which is being modified and re-engined to create the replica Baby Deltic, but so far as I could see they don't say which type of loco the donor actually was. Anybody know? I'm guessing maybe a 37, but I could be talking complete garbage here. (First time for everything, says SWMBO.)
PW

railsquid

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Quote from: PennineWagons on February 18, 2022, 12:00:00 PM
Quote from: Shropshire Lad on February 18, 2022, 06:34:27 AM
With these guys,
https://www.babydeltic.co.uk/
making some great progress a model will hopefully become more attractive to a manufacturer.
Cheers Colin


An interesting project which looks to making significant progress. Good luck to them.
On their website they make a number of references to the 'donor loco' which is being modified and re-engined to create the replica Baby Deltic, but so far as I could see they don't say which type of loco the donor actually was. Anybody know? I'm guessing maybe a 37

You appear to be correct:


IMG_6841 Baby Deltic Project D5910 Barrow Hill 13.7.19_1 by Brians Railway, Bus and Shipping Collection, on Flickr

Description: "ex 37372. Donor locomotive used in the construction of Baby Deltic D5910"

Why they don't just put a pair of Class 55s in a darkened shed with romantic music and let them get on with it, beats me...  :beers:

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