Lock it down, buddy? No way! I love this stuff! Maybe we can get Roger Daltry of The Who, Phil collins, James May, and of course, Pete Waterman (OK, 0 gauge, I know, but totally awesome), who are all avid model railway fans to maybe post something!

Wake up Maggi, I think I've got something to say to you...

Postscript to this post:

Having spent a wonderful morning at Minatur Wunderland in Hamburg in September (coming soon on Euroadventure thread, plug...plug....), there are pictures there of Rod Stewart getting a personal tour... but why not? Publicitiy for them - and the influence of Hamburg shows on his layout.

Model railways is wot it's all about, and, by the way, Rod has put out some great songs. 

George

This thread getting a bit out of control, by the way is Mr Stewart's layout DC or DCC ? I think we should
be told. With my tongue firmly  in cheek I would suggest you cannot be a real modeller unless you :-

Mine your own ore to smelt steel and make your own locos literally from scratch.

Cast your own brass and refine your own copper

Make plastic from petrochemicals for coaches and wagons and cable covering

Chop down trees , cut them up to make your own sleepers


Enjoy ! 

 

Go Rod!

Whatever his level of 'modelling' may be, he's into the hobby and that's all that matters IMO.

I take my hat off to anyone who can knock up a loco from scratch, but I do not have the time nor skill to produce a finish close to RTR.

If I had the money I'd do the same, maybe it's my tender age but I just want to get to the 'playing with trains' part as soon as possible.

I concur, though I put together the occasional Peco wagon kit which even I can't mess up, that reminds
me I have a brake van to complete, put aside during the eating and drinking this week.

Quote from: Agrippa on December 28, 2013, 12:20:25 PM
This thread getting a bit out of control, by the way is Mr Stewart's layout DC or DCC ? I think we should
be told. With my tongue firmly  in cheek I would suggest you cannot be a real modeller unless you :-

Mine your own ore to smelt steel and make your own locos literally from scratch.

Cast your own brass and refine your own copper

Make plastic from petrochemicals for coaches and wagons and cable covering

Chop down trees , cut them up to make your own sleepers


Enjoy ! 

I knew I was not doing it right Ive even got RTR resin houses and things on my layout.
I`m reminded of well dressed loud educated mouth at an exhibition a few years back who addressed those passing and nearly demanded that they inspect his layout.
His lesson preached to all who stopped was that
''Your not a railway modeller until you achieve exhibition standards with your work and  display it for all who pass.
It wasn't a model railway exhibition but a village craft type fair.
I in my wheelchair was pushed away by son as he saw I was about to blow a gasket

Quote from: Agrippa on December 28, 2013, 12:20:25 PM
This thread getting a bit out of control,

Can't agree (yet )
It is worth discussing and I'm pleased to see the discussion is fair, open and humorous in parts. If 'celebs' can bring model railways to the attention of others then fair play, I say, although the mere fact the article is in a modelling journal will limit the exposure to the general public. Modelling can only be done to either time available or ability. Those with no/little skills in baseboard construction have the option of buying them, while Rod the Mod obviously does not have the time to do everything so 'buys in'.

Well someone built it, which is surely the important thing...

mmm , big layout eh ? , well rods into trains and had a fair size layout , then one day O'l blue eyes poped his clog's , and daughter nancy put his layout up fror sale , so rod came forward with the £$£$£'s and purchased well in exess of Sinatrar's layout - and whow , its now over a basement big .


alan

( ) true story .

Why wasn't it put on Ebay ? Collect in person from LA or Vegas. No returns. Found it in my dad's basement . 

Quote from: Luke Piewalker on December 28, 2013, 03:51:50 PM
Well someone built it, which is surely the important thing...

I agree it is also good that Rock stars like Rod Stewart is into Railway Modelling it's good for the Hobby and gets other people interested.

Hi Folks,

Personally I do not see the problem with modellers like Rod Stewart and Pete Waterman.  They are railway enthusiasts and it is up to them how they express that.  Rod must have huge demands upon his time so has to use his wealth to compensate in his modelling.  Mind you, I have no idea how much of his railway is down to him personally and I do not see it is important.

As for Mr Waterman he is one of the great benefactors of railway modelling and preservation in this country.  With his investments in full size railways and modelling via JLTRT he has definitely walked the walk.

Live and let live I say.

Happy new year

Paddy

There was an interview with Rod on radio2 one Saturday morning last year

In the interview he stated that he DID in fact take kits with him to build while he is
"on the road" and couldn't wait to get home so he could place them on his layout 

dave 

What an absolutely fascinating series of responses.  Thank you to all who took the time.

However, noticeably, my questions have not be answered.  These are as follows

1. At what point does railway modelling cease to be a hobby?

2. Is what Rod Stewart (or any other 'celebrity' for that matter) doing actually 'railway modelling' in the form that we  generally understand the term? 

3. Does paying someone to do your modelling (and then taking the credit for what is done), constitute 'real' railway modelling?"

The questions still stand, and now that we have indicated our views about the celebrity concerned (and conveyed our displeasure towards the poster and at what he has written) , perhaps we can have some discussion and answers to the questions?

Thanks.

(Mods:  The questions I submitted were intended to promote serious discussion.  Remove/Lock the topic if you so-wish)

Quote from: Komata on December 28, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
What an absolutely fascinating series of responses.  Thank you to all who took the time.

However, noticeably, my questions have not be answered.  These are as follows

1. At what point does railway modelling cease to be a hobby?

2. Is what Rod Stewart (or any other 'celebrity' for that matter) doing actually 'railway modelling' in the form that we  generally understand the term? 

3. Does paying someone to do your modelling (and then taking the credit for what is done), constitute 'real' railway modelling?"

The questions still stand, and now that we have indicated our views about the celebrity concerned (and conveyed our displeasure towards the poster and at what he has written) , perhaps we can have some discussion and answers to the questions?

Thanks.

(Mods:  The questions I submitted were intended to promote serious discussion.  Remove/Lock the topic if you so-wish)

My opinion is as follows;

1. Using the dictionary definition for "Hobby" as below

hobby ~ noun ~ an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure.

Then it ceases to be a hobby when you stop doing it regularly, or you receive some form of payment for your continuance to do it, or you continue to do it without gaining any pleasure from it ( a bit like some marriages  ).

2. What Rod Stewart has told us that he does constitutes 'railway modelling' in the form that I understand and interpret the definition. He makes models based on a railway in his own time for his own pleasure.

3. Paying someone to undergo activity on your behalf and then taking credit for it does not constitute 'real' anything, it is closer to the definition for misrepresentation.

Hope that helps