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Well.....someone had to do start it !!
(OK I'll get my coat and make a sneaky exit). :sorrysign:

Wake me up when the World Bore is over ...  :computerangry:  :sleep:  :sleep:  :sleep:  :sleep:  :sleep:  :sleep:  :sleep:  :sleep:

Rugby World Cup?!?!   :laugh3:

Time for me to hibernate for a month rather than watch whats coming onto the telly

Just about to kick off.... Don't be so miserable!!!.......enjoy

Of course I will enjoy the World Cup - it will give me an excuse not to watch the normal TV and catch up with all the other programs that I have recorded over the last few months! (Just watched two episodes of 'Almost Human' back to back - great series!)  :D

I have no interest in football but I do like to watch opening ceremonies  :tv:

However at three minutes past seven there was a powercut which lasted two hours so I missed the whole ceremony  :veryangry:

cheers John.

Quote from: scotsoft on June 12, 2014, 09:43:12 PM
I have no interest in football but I do like to watch opening ceremonies  :tv:

However at three minutes past seven there was a powercut which lasted two hours so I missed the whole ceremony  :veryangry:

cheers John.

You did not miss much, the crowds on the streets being chased by the police was more interesting.

At times like these is when I'm really glad we don't have a tv. It saves a lot of family disputes as to what is watched because Wimbledon starts soon.  :-\  ::)

No problem here. We both like football so will be (and are) watching but I like to switch on as they kick off and switch off as the game ends. Plus visit the  :NGF:at half time ! Can't stand the pre match musings and the after match post mortems.

I tend to agree with Port Perran there regarding the post mortems etc. I also always find it surprising how many people will comment on something which they don't like but only when it's sport and in particular football. I'll also await the "England are rubbish", "they never win anything" etc comments.
Anyway, second half just starting, I'll come back in 45 minutes to read any responses.

Quote from: Paul B on June 12, 2014, 09:37:13 PM
it will give me an excuse not to watch the normal TV and catch up with all the other programs that I have recorded over the last few months!

I have a pile of stuff recorded I just can't get around to, too ... too much studying going on :(  But at least it's less than the past few years, so I can do other things that need attention !

Watched the match but never saw this Brazilian take the field as a substitute - shame.  :)

(http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo231/Tdmak/Sundry%20and%20Miscellaneous/brazilian.jpg) (http://s379.photobucket.com/user/Tdmak/media/Sundry%20and%20Miscellaneous/brazilian.jpg.html)

Quote from: Tdm on June 13, 2014, 12:06:45 AM
Watched the match but never saw this Brazilian take the field as a substitute - shame.  :)

(http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo231/Tdmak/Sundry%20and%20Miscellaneous/brazilian.jpg) (http://s379.photobucket.com/user/Tdmak/media/Sundry%20and%20Miscellaneous/brazilian.jpg.html)

i may be persuaded to like football after all lol

Just wait until Sunday when the Argentinians play. I've hyperlinked this picture (http://www.bigtravelweb.com/images/football-argentina-l.jpg) just in case it breaks any copyrights etc.

Quote from: Trainfish on June 13, 2014, 12:27:40 AM
Just wait until Sunday when the Argentinians play. I've hyperlinked this picture (http://www.bigtravelweb.com/images/football-argentina-l.jpg) just in case it breaks any copyrights etc.

Don't go to football anymore....too expensive..... >:(
But i would pay good money to see that team play...... :goggleeyes: :D

That chap's got lumps on his chest ! :goggleeyes:

I fell in love with World Cup in 2006 and have been glued to it ever since. Also, those two pics above are exhibits A & B why I can't got to South America unless I'm chained to my wife. Yowsah!

Quote from: sparky on June 12, 2014, 08:59:05 PM
Just about to kick off.... Don't be so miserable!!!.......enjoy

Not sure it's a case of being miserable, but I think a lot of people get fed up with the over-hype if they're not a fan. The media act as if EVERYONE is World Cup mad, yet I wonder just what percentage of the population Does give a monkey's? :hmmm:

I hope those that are watching enjoy, the rest of us will be counting the days until it's over ;)


Paul

I really enjoyed the match last night so I must be one of those who do give a monkeys then, although I am not in posession of any small furry creature to give to anyone!

Best wishes
Simon

 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

Really enjoyed the game last night too, i was surprised at how weak the Brazil team appeared to be, but for them, they won, that's all that matters!

I am looking forward to watching Argentina..........

Quote from: Trainfish on June 13, 2014, 12:27:40 AM
Just wait until Sunday when the Argentinians play. I've hyperlinked this picture (http://www.bigtravelweb.com/images/football-argentina-l.jpg) just in case it breaks any copyrights etc.

........especially watching the 2 up front!  :goggleeyes:

Steven

:NGF:

For me the world cup takes place in England next year, that is the Rugby World cup. Lets hope England beat the All Blacks tomorrow morning.

Dodger

I'll be watching that with interest too  :thumbsup:

I'd watch some of the Football World Cup but I'm really a rugby man so like others - bring on the Rugby World Cup 2015...

As has been said before:-  A soccer the player spends the game trying to persuade the Ref they are injured.  Rugby they try to persuade the Ref they are not...

Quote from: Sprintex on June 13, 2014, 02:47:19 AM

Quote from: sparky on June 12, 2014, 08:59:05 PM
Just about to kick off.... Don't be so miserable!!!.......enjoy

Not sure it's a case of being miserable, but I think a lot of people get fed up with the over-hype if they're not a fan. The media act as if EVERYONE is World Cup mad, yet I wonder just what percentage of the population Does give a monkey's? :hmmm:

I hope those that are watching enjoy, the rest of us will be counting the days until it's over ;)


Paul

The papers said power would dip at half-time when all the half a million kettles were switched on; not a very big percentage for all that televised and printed rubbish, then? (Out of over 60 million.)

I'll be watching some of the World Cup  - mainly to see the players from the Premier league club that I support.

May watch Italy too as it does have its attractions (http://ztona.org/lorenzo-insigne-hd/)  :)

 :veryangry:


TV has been unplugged from the wall along  with the freesat receiver .
That is my personal choice - hate the game, same with Wombledon.

 Why get so aggressive about it?
Lots of stuff on tv i hate but still do not unplug it, we can all simply change channels!i enjoy lots of sports but detest the soaps on tv  so dont watch.

Lots on the box for everyone.

simon
ps COME ON ENGLAND!!

Quote from: bridgiesimon on June 13, 2014, 07:52:24 AM
Why get so aggressive about it?
Lots of stuff on tv i hate but still do not unplug it, we can all simply change channels!i enjoy lots of sports but detest the soaps on tv  so dont watch.

Lots on the box for everyone.

simon
ps COME ON ENGLAND!!

Tis just my opinion.
Trouble is everything else is repeats. Doing my bit for the enviroment not wasting the power by having stuff on standby.
We tend to only watch TV for a couple of hours a day anyway and major sporting events always seem to overun and the programs we want are often cancelled.     

My pub is running a World Cup sweepstake, I drew Mexico. :(

I'm selective in the matches I watch, but will definitely be watching Spain v Netherlands tonight. The big difference with me, I s'pose, is that I don't care who wins.
As for England - just watching them makes me angry so I don't bother :no:

Ok come on own up who broke Adrien Chiles window, reports are coming in that it was thrown from an English couch.

Not me but then it would have been a bloomin impressive shot from here in Somerset!!!

Simon

Quote from: Geoff on June 13, 2014, 10:24:11 AM
Ok come on own up who broke Adrien Chiles window, reports are coming in that it was thrown from an English couch.

Please don't mention that waffling buffoon again, it just gets me very annoyed (Like Carrie) :veryangry:

The World Cup is going well: England play the Netherlands in the semi final later today. What do you mean football, I thought we were talking hockey!
Gareth

Have posted this video link here as it concerns (sort of) the world cup.

http://balls.ie/football/john-oliver-nails-fifa/ (http://balls.ie/football/john-oliver-nails-fifa/)

Good for a laugh even though he is right.

I have no intention of upsetting anyone, my apologies  :-X

Roger

If 'sport' is so popular give it it's own channels, paid for by the fanatics, leaving proper telly for the majority of viewers........ >:(

Quote from: Geoff on June 13, 2014, 10:24:11 AM
Ok come on own up who broke Adrien Chiles window, reports are coming in that it was thrown from an English couch.

And there was me thinking they'd taken the money and not carried out the task >:D
Actually, it's quite difficult to throw accurately from a couch :hmmm:

Quote from: oscar on June 13, 2014, 07:40:54 AM
The papers said power would dip at half-time when all the half a million kettles were switched on; not a very big percentage for all that televised and printed rubbish, then? (Out of over 60 million.)

Since when has beer been stored in a kettle?  ???

Quote from: Oldun on June 13, 2014, 12:42:46 PM
Have posted this video link here as it concerns (sort of) the world cup.

http://balls.ie/football/john-oliver-nails-fifa/ (http://balls.ie/football/john-oliver-nails-fifa/)

Good for a laugh even though he is right.

I have no intention of upsetting anyone, my apologies  :-X

Roger

Roger,

Thanks for posting that, I thoroughly enjoyed it, not that the yanks would have understood a word of it though  ;) ;)

The funniest bit for me was at about 4 mins 55secs in when he says  "what Budwieser reflectively insist on calling beer" made me chuckle  :D :D

Cheers

Neal.

Why can I not see the video then? The page loads but there's a space where the video should be. I searched for it elsewhere and found it here too (http://www.anorak.co.uk/399898/sports/world-cup-watch-sports/world-cup-balls-john-oliver-nails-fifa-video.html/) but same again, a white space where the video should be  >:(

Tried them both, work OK for me.

Roger

Quote from: Agrippa on June 13, 2014, 08:46:25 AM
My pub is running a World Cup sweepstake, I drew Mexico. :(

My office is running a World Cup sweepstake - I drew Greece...  :worried:

(not that I could care less - it is for a bit of fun!  :) )

My sweep team Mexico just  beat Cameroon despite 2 goals disallowed.

:claphappy:

Congratulations.

Drinks all round! :beers:

Well.....all I can say is that I didn't see that coming. The Dutch were fantastic !!

Looks like they have drafted in all the officials from the Scottish lower leagues for the World Cup this time!  Ridiculous penalty for Brazil last night, ref was a complete homer, as for the Columbian linesman giving the 2 Mexico goals offside, well there is a war just waiting to happen.  As for the main attraction tonight, an ageing Spanish squad taken apart by 2 ageing Dutchmen, who would have thought!!
As for works sweepstakes, I got Honduras  :confused1: can't wait  ;D

As for those not into the footie, don't watch it, simples  ;), and as for Hockey and Rugby World Cups, start your own threads  :P

That was AWESOME!!!!!
Loved the game, just think they were lucky to get teh penalty cos I thought he went down very easily, similar to Brazil last night. Should have/could have been 8-0!!!

Just want a result like that our way tomorrow to make the weekend!!

Simon

I love football and the World Cup.
Just tuning into Australia vs Chile (I hope Chile win)  :P

Been an interesting night with the Dutch humiliating Spain.
England's fun comes tomorrow night......

CMON ENGLAND DO US PROUD!

I drew Greece as my sweep stake team, so I will cheer them on tomorrow as they play Colombia.

Whatever happens it's gonna be a good one!

I'll ignore the above comment.... it's 8.30am here and GAME ON!  ;D

Quote from: port perran on June 13, 2014, 09:53:30 PM
Well.....all I can say is that I didn't see that coming. The Dutch were fantastic !!

Van Persie and Robben playing at their best!

Those swaggering senors destroyed.

Bring on Scotland ! If time travel available!

Quote from: Agrippa on June 14, 2014, 12:13:06 AM
Bring on Scotland ! If time travel available!

Are they still involved in international football? I never seem to see their name at the World Cups or Euros.

Well done to the cloggies. I won't say I didn't see that result coming but the score, well, I don't think ANYONE could have predicted that!

And Chile have just scored again  :claphappy: :bounce: :thumbsup:

Ah well... it's only a game...  :'( :'( :'(

Well it is a girls sport after all😃
Bart

I guess you'll be stuck in front of State of Origin on Wednesday then  ;)

Yes mate sure will be. On shift so hopefully no fire calls. Then again I could also turn the bells off😃
Little zac soccer game (under 5) off due to rain but the big brother is about to run on the field so only 90 mins of torture today. The little a great to watch
Bart

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Cool. It's actually sunny here at moment

Back on topic - at least the Aussies put in a creditable performance this morning.

Credible but lost, at last a sport Australia is not very good at!! Unlike rugby, cricket, motor racing, athletics, swimming ... hehe,
(No intention to insult!)

Best wishes
Simon

 :hmmm:  The World Cup. Something to do with, er, what exactly? Does it have Hydraulic Transmission? Was it designed in Swindon, built in Crewe or Glasgow or by Beyer Peacock, for the Western Region?  :no:
To me sport is a totally a boring subject.  I suppose some might think otherwise but :unimpressed:

It was unusually quiet here last night, normally when Spain have played football you here lots of celebrations and horn blowing, now I know why it was so quiet, I think all the locals have gone into mourning.   :)

So they should, Caz... at least my adopted country put in a credible performance  ;)

Quote from: whiteswan on June 14, 2014, 09:05:26 AM
It was unusually quiet here last night, normally when Spain have played football you here lots of celebrations and horn blowing, now I know why it was so quiet, I think all the locals have gone into mourning.   :)

Same here in Tenerife - although Canarians insist they are not Spanish they do support Spain when it comes to football as Canarian Teams play in the Spanish Leagues. No fireworks here at all last night - all the fireworks were provided by the Dutch on the playing field in Brazil.

Quote from: Bealman on June 14, 2014, 09:15:15 AM
at least my adopted country put in a credible performance  ;)

In our local Mini Youth Games World Cup they won!  :)

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/mini-world-cup-games-kick-off-18555/ (http://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/mini-world-cup-games-kick-off-18555/)

Haha I like that.  :thumbsup:

Welcome to the NGF! Please feel free to tell us a bit about yourself and your model railway interests in the Welcome section.

 :wave: Welcome Colin.

I enjoyed the football by Holland last night, I had tipped the Spanish to win but they never turned up in the second half.

Only if England could play like that.

Who would have thunk it :o
The 'mighty' Spain clattered by an erratically brilliant and essentially fairly lazy Dutch side who seem to prefer their beer to footie. They may be undisciplined off the field but last night was great. If that last screamer of a volley from Robben had gone in it would probably have been goal of the tournament.

England Rugby just missed beating the AB's this morning but it was a great effort and a great game of rugby -   :'(

The sitting room here looks like NASA Control Centre.  Large Screen TV. Laptops, Tablets all to watch:-

Le Mans 24h which is just about to start. 
Argentina vs Ireland   19.40
England vs Italy 23.00

LM24 will mainly be on Laptop & Tablets (have to accommodate the family somehow)...

http://www.24h-lemans.com/live/en/ (http://www.24h-lemans.com/live/en/) if your interested...

 :laughabovepost:

Er... Houston, you have a problem!  ;D

Broad Band going 19 to the dozen but all working well so far...

Has a page gone missing, or is everyone in mourning over the England - Italy game???

Quote from: Kipper on June 15, 2014, 05:36:07 PM
Has a page gone missing, or is everyone in mourning over the England - Italy game???

I was in bed when England played, but heard the commotion of all the drunks coming home, not as loud as if they would of won, its all on the next game if they lose that then they are coming home.

Quote from: Kipper on June 15, 2014, 05:36:07 PM
Has a page gone missing, or is everyone in mourning over the England - Italy game???

No  ;)

I believe they were unlucky though and it was a tight game, big surprise was the stuffing Costa Rica gave Uruguay, did they learn nothing from Italia 90  :-[

;D

I too think they were unlucky. The game could have gone either way.
Thursday's game is so important now.
Interestingly, at home here, Lorraine & I have set up a little challenge to see who can predict the most correct scores.
So far.....none right. I can see how bookies make their money !!

Quote from: Kipper on June 15, 2014, 05:36:07 PM
Has a page gone missing, or is everyone in mourning over the England - Italy game???

:sleep:  Why, what happened?  :confused1:

Dunno - I thought they were playing Sri Lanka across 5 days ?

Its a goal, its not a goal, its a goal the world cup is a farce if that the best goal line technology FIFA have.

Feel sorry for Honduras.

Quote from: Geoff on June 15, 2014, 09:13:02 PM
Its a goal, its not a goal, its a goal the world cup is a farce if that the best goal line technology FIFA have.

Feel sorry for Honduras.

I feel sorry for the millions who haven't the slightest interest in this game getting plastered all over the TV 24/7.

Quote from: D1042 Western Princess on June 15, 2014, 09:19:16 PM

Quote from: Geoff on June 15, 2014, 09:13:02 PM
Its a goal, its not a goal, its a goal the world cup is a farce if that the best goal line technology FIFA have.

Feel sorry for Honduras.

I feel sorry for the millions who haven't the slightest interest in this game getting plastered all over the TV 24/7.

Yep the wife has lost her soaps, I have had to buy some ear plugs to stop the ear ache..

Point her at the washing machine ....
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..... and run like hell !!!  :P

Quote from: Trainfish on June 13, 2014, 12:27:40 AM
Just wait until Sunday when the Argentinians play. I've hyperlinked this picture (http://www.bigtravelweb.com/images/football-argentina-l.jpg) just in case it breaks any copyrights etc.

I'm sorry, but i tuned in to the Argentina match  :goggleeyes: and was extremely disappointed  :( not to see this team line up  :'(, i turned off again quickly!!!

Hehehe
Steven

I've watched all the games so far and will probably watch most of the rest of them too. However, if I didn't like football then I think there are plenty more channels to choose from these days aren't there? If not then I suppose those who don't like football could get on with building/improving their layouts couldn't they? I have no idea if the soaps have been moved/cancelled as I have no interest in those but somehow I always find something else to watch even though they seem to take up many hours every day of every week and not just once every 4 years.
I have to admit though it has been difficult keeping up with the US Open golf at the same time but then that's what Sky Go is for, golf on the PC and football on the TV. Cricket has been easy as that's on during the day rather than the evening  :D
I'm also probably lucky that I have been able to train the wife to like both football and golf, she's even starting to like cricket.

I just remembered that I missed some of the Ivory Coast v Japan game  :uneasy:

Quote from: bees on June 16, 2014, 01:22:28 AM

Quote from: Trainfish on June 13, 2014, 12:27:40 AM
Just wait until Sunday when the Argentinians play. I've hyperlinked this picture (http://www.bigtravelweb.com/images/football-argentina-l.jpg) just in case it breaks any copyrights etc.

I'm sorry, but i tuned in to the Argentina match  :goggleeyes: and was extremely disappointed  :( not to see this team line up  :'(, i turned off again quickly!!!

Hehehe
Steven

A Brentford fan living in Manchester? Whatever next, a Man Ure fan living in Brentford? It's possible I suppose.

Did you not watch the half time entertainment in the Argie game then Steve?

Quote from: Trainfish on June 16, 2014, 01:26:36 AM
I just remembered that I missed some of the Ivory Coast v Japan game  :uneasy:

I was surprised that Japan went down. I'd tipped them... I'm not doing very well in the tipping comp, when I think about it. All the teams I've tipped so far have lost!!  :-[

I wasn't really surprised at the Ivory Coast beating Japan. The African teams are improving in every tournament now.

Do you enter the Sky Soccer 6 competition? You don't need to have Sky but could win up to £100,000 if you get 6 scores correct  :goggleeyes:
I managed to get 2 scores correct and 1 other result in the first 6

No, I didn't know about it. Sounds cool! Regarding your score, you've done better than me, then!  :thumbsup:

I'll send you a link. We can compare scores then  :D

It's bad enough that every time I turn on the TV "IT" is on and on every blooming channel, think I'll lock this thread and ban it on here as this forum is my only escape.   ;)   Regrettably, as a mod I have to read every post so can't ignore the thread.   :(

For those not into footie why even bother reading/posting in this thread? :P
I'm no great fan but I have watched nearly every game (with no care who wins) apart from those beyond my bedtime.

Quote from: whiteswan on June 16, 2014, 09:47:02 AM
   Regrettably, as a mod I have to read every post so can't ignore the thread.   :(

Leave it with me then, Caz :D

By the way is anyone modelling any Brazilian railways, now that would be fun to see a model train going past a stadium or something like that.

Wishful thinking.

Do not worry Caz the world cup is not on forever.

Don't model one on the Qatar 2022 world Cup, they don't have trains. It will be purely fictional. Then again, it might become purely fictional for entirely different reasons anyway!

If you do decide to model it, then at least the landscaping will be easy. Flat baseboard with a bucket of sand poured over it  :smiley-laughing:

Dan

Quote from: Geoff on June 16, 2014, 10:32:00 AM
By the way is anyone modelling any Brazilian railways

I could so easily get a ban for commenting on the greenery :angel:

Quote from: Geoff on June 16, 2014, 10:32:00 AM
By the way is anyone modelling any Brazilian railways, now that would be fun to see a model train going past a stadium or something like that.
Wishful thinking.
Do not worry Caz the world cup is not on forever.

Strangely enough I am currently working through a collection of DVDs entitled
"The Worlds Greatest Railway Journeys - North & South America, Canada & Australasia".
It consists of 8 DVDs, and was lent to me by a neighbour here.
I already have the "Western & Central Europe" set (again 8 DVDs), but there is also another one - "Eastern Europe, Africa, and Asia".

One of the DVDs in the set I am viewing covers Brazil, Cuba, and Mexico.

All excellent quality videos produced by an American company with an American narrator, and if anyone is interested the company Website is "www.musicbank.co.uk"

Some years ago I recorded all the episodes of "Making Tracks" - a BBC production,
and I have currently lent this out to the neighbour who lent me the current DVD set I am watching. Quality not very good though as it was originally recorded on VHS and since copied to DVD, but that program featured railways from all round the World as well as many of the lines in the U.K. Bob Symes (a model railway enthusiast) was the presenter along with someone else whose name I forget, and Bob Symes also did a Xmas Channel 4 program about model railways which I also recorded.

Quote from: Trainfish on June 16, 2014, 01:31:01 AM

Quote from: bees on June 16, 2014, 01:22:28 AM

Quote from: Trainfish on June 13, 2014, 12:27:40 AM
Just wait until Sunday when the Argentinians play. I've hyperlinked this picture (http://www.bigtravelweb.com/images/football-argentina-l.jpg) just in case it breaks any copyrights etc.

I'm sorry, but i tuned in to the Argentina match  :goggleeyes: and was extremely disappointed  :( not to see this team line up  :'(, i turned off again quickly!!!

Hehehe
Steven

A Brentford fan living in Manchester? Whatever next, a Man Ure fan living in Brentford? It's possible I suppose.

Did you not watch the half time entertainment in the Argie game then Steve?

Hahaha, unfortunate not, been on earlies from thursday through til tomorrow. All matches have been sky+'d anyway, so I'll catch it on there when i get chance.

Steven

The future is Oranje  :claphappy: :claphappy:

Quote from: Pengi on June 16, 2014, 01:57:45 PM
The future is Oranje  :claphappy: :claphappy:

That's just double dutch to me :confused1: ;)

 Germant vs Portugal at 1700 this evening.  Now that has to be worth a look...

Quote from: Greybeema on June 16, 2014, 03:13:44 PM
Germany vs Portugal at 1700 this evening.  Now that has to be worth a look...

Potential for being a great game :hmmm:
Think I'll skip the pundits and AC for an hour before KO tho' :censored:

Quote from: newportnobby on June 16, 2014, 03:29:01 PM

Quote from: Greybeema on June 16, 2014, 03:13:44 PM
Germany vs Portugal at 1700 this evening.  Now that has to be worth a look...

Potential for being a great game :hmmm:
Think I'll skip the pundits and AC for an hour before KO tho' :censored:

I'm with you there!!!!  Forget the crappy stuff - go straight to the footie...

Quote from: Greybeema on June 16, 2014, 03:48:24 PM
Forget the crappy stuff -

That rules out the football then :D


Paul

Football all over the telly... what better reason for cracking out the Babylon 5 DVDs!

Babylon 5 on DVD`s all night....rather watch Iran v Nigeria World Cup !!!!!

Quote from: Greybeema on June 16, 2014, 03:13:44 PM
Germant vs Portugal at 1700 this evening.  Now that has to be worth a look...

Think that tiki-taka has had its day now.

Quote from: MattJ on June 16, 2014, 08:13:47 PM
Football all over the telly... what better reason for cracking out the Babylon 5 DVDs!

In surround sound so you can pick up all the "hidden" snippets of conversation JMS built-into the series !

Either B5 or FarScape ...  :D  Either is far better than watching 18 massively over-paid prats messing about & over-acting like they're on Crossroads for 90 minutes ...  8)

As Mick said earlier, if you don't like football then why bother to read/post on this thread  ::) and mess it up for the rest of us.

I am the Mod that likes football so happy to read all of the posts  :)

I repeat......Rather watch Iran v Nigeria than an evening of the Babylon 5..... are they a new middle eastern boy band ?.. anyway the footie game is so exciting at 0-0 Half time and the BBC analysis is spellbinding.... it cant possibly get any worse can it  ???

I've really enjoyed the World Cup so far with some great games and some unexpected results.
Shame about Neville's "commentary/summarising" for the England game though!
Problem this afternoon though with the Germany v Portugal game having to take second place to the end of the Cricket Test which was absolutely nail biting.

My prediction is that England WILL qualify with wins in the final two group matches.

The Cricket was great.... Should have declared a bit earlier ?... could rename this thread to general Sports Enthusiasts

I've recorded the cricket so please don't say too much :worried:

As for those who don't like the footie - as Donald Sutherland said in Kelly's Heroes "Don't come at me with them negative waves"
Kindly keep out of this thread rather than slag it off :stop:

Well I have had to miss one match tonight, and I am upset her indoors got her own way but I caught the Germany game, that was pretty much one sided, shame the portugese guy took the law into hiw own hands, just spoilt the game.

Superb bit of acting by Muller. He ought to be on the stage (there's one leaves in 10 minutes :-X) At the least he should have been yellow carded for diving :veryangry:
Pepe should never have responded like that, though :no:

Pepe has previous.. being unable to control himself cost the Portugese what ever slim chances they had from 2 down... I bet Captain Christiano didn't lend him his bottle of fake tan after showering

Any team that can wipe the smug 'I am Portugal' smile off Ronaldo's face gets my vote :thumbsup:

Quote from: newportnobby on June 16, 2014, 09:14:11 PM
I've recorded the cricket so please don't say too much :worried:
As for those who don't like the footie - as Donald Sutherland said in Kelly's Heroes "Don't come at me with them negative waves"
Kindly keep out of this thread rather than slag it off :stop:

Good Film Kelly's Heros - the whole family enjoyed it when it was on, and I did record it, but lost the recording when we emigrated.

Quote from: newportnobby on June 16, 2014, 10:08:11 PM
Any team that can wipe the smug 'I am Portugal' smile off Ronaldo's face gets my vote :thumbsup:

What that man said ... HEAR HEAR, HEAR HEAR (or is it here here, here here?) anyway, you all know what I mean. Hopefully we won't see him prancing around on adverts so much if Portugal don't make it past the also rans stage.

Dan

So first round matches are done - anyone want to make a Championship prediction?

Oh & BTW.  All the best Micheal Schumacher some good news about his recovery at last #keepfightingmicheal...

Yep fingers crossed here for Michael but he has a long way to go, it looks like he is a fighter, anyway back to football Mexico v Brazil tonight I am looking forward to this.

I got 5 out of 16 tips in the first round. I think I've waved bye bye to me $20 already, methinks. Anyway I've gone for Brazil again.

Quote from: Greybeema on June 17, 2014, 06:17:15 AM
So first round matches are done - anyone want to make a Championship prediction?

Still got the Russia/Korea match to go - interesting to see if Capello has learned from his last World Cup experience.

Like the technically brilliant and smooth ICE train, Germany strong contenders. Holland a bit like Eurostar, impressive but some parts are getting a bit long in the tooth now. England needs to be more like a Pendolino than a Pacer. Spain just seem to be running out of steam and Japan not up to bullet train speed yet.

 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

I like the analogy!  ;D

Can't believe that red card incident in that Germany vs Portugal game, though. They're on the world stage, for Pete's sake.

Bealman ... surely that's "for Pepe's sake!"  :claphappy:

First round of group stages not finished yet! As somebody pointed out, South Korea vs Russia and don't forget Belgium vs Algeria.

Am I correct in saying we've only had one 0-0 draw so far (Nigeria vs Iran)? Surely that's got to be a record for goals for the opening games of a World Cup.

Been quite a belter of a tourney so far? What say you?

Dan

Quote from: DesertHound on June 17, 2014, 11:27:59 AM


Been quite a belter of a tourney so far? What say you?

Dan

Been great to see the positivity of play from most teams :thumbsup:
Some extremely dubious refereeing, though, and I'm still not sure the goal line facility is set up properly. Some stonking goals and some absolute howlers from goalkeepers are maintaining this viewer's interest.

Quote from: DesertHound on June 17, 2014, 10:32:50 AM
Bealman ... surely that's "for Pepe's sake!"  :claphappy:

:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

But I agree with all comments. Especially some of the refereeing.

Most definitely dubious refereeing! But the it all adds to the drama and entertainment value doesn't it?

Thought Muller should also have been handed a centre stage role in the West End after that performance last night with Pepe's.

Maybe they could have both run a west End version of Punch and Judy ... "He's behind you!".

Should both have seen red in my view.

Now, come on South Korea!

Dan

Does Pak Do Ik still play for them ?? :laughabovepost:
That's showing my age - anyone else remember him from '66?

Quote from: port perran on June 17, 2014, 06:45:11 PM
Does Pak Do Ik still play for them ?? :laughabovepost:
That's showing my age - anyone else remember him from '66?

I do! - In 1966 I drove my Sunbeam Rapier to France, and in a seafront Bar in Dinard, Brittany watched Bobby Moore lift the World Cup for England.
Called in at Wembley (the old Twin Towers one) on the way home and in the excitement drove my car far too fast back up to my then Lancashire home, and did the Big End bearings in, but I didn't care.

I think at the time I was running a Hornby Dublo 3-rail Duchess of Montrose train set. Shortly afterwards traded the Rapier in for a brand new Mk2 Mini-Cooper,
which cost me £610 on the road minus a £100 trade-in allowance on the Sunbeam.

Quote from: port perran on June 17, 2014, 06:45:11 PM
Does Pak Do Ik still play for them ?? :laughabovepost:
That's showing my age - anyone else remember him from '66?

Pak Do Ik ... will have to ask the wife, she's Korean, hence I have to support 'em! She wasn't around in '66 so I doubt she'll have the foggiest. Then again, I wasn't around in '66 but I know who Bobby Moore is!

Now, that Mexican keeper deserves a medal. What a performance. They're making similarities with Bank's save against Pele in '70 on the tv!

That was indeed a great save. Well done Mexico !!

Just saw that game. The Mexican keeper was indeed awesome!

So....will the Aussies be able to stop the Dutch this evening ???

Of course, mate, no worries.

The biggest issue is that it's on at 2am here, and keen as I am, I think Bealman will be  :sleep: methinks!  :-[

Hmmmm ... Let me think about that one Port Perran. Shouldn't take me more than a millisecond  :confused1:

Quote from: port perran on June 18, 2014, 08:03:09 AM
So....will the Aussies be able to stop the Dutch this evening ???

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

Quote from: Bealman on June 18, 2014, 08:09:14 AM
Of course, mate, no worries.

The biggest issue is that it's on at 2am here, and keen as I am, I think Bealman will be  :sleep: methinks!  :-[

The last games start for me at 2am, meaning a bedtime of 4am-ish! Just wait till we get to the knock-out stages with extra time and penalties. Might as well stay up for breakfast! Good job work's on the light side at the moment! It's trains and World Cup!

Now port Perran, I think you and I have got a greater chance of stopping the Flying Scotsman by holding a piece of rope across the track, than the Aussies have of holding back the oranjes!

Then again, I can't stand that Robben chap. GO AUSTRALIA!

 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

Thanks, mate.  :thumbsup:

The Brazil v Mexico game was a frenetic but, quite frankly, tedious game IMO. :sleep:
Mexico seemed to have no clue as to how to break through and, as far as Brazil goes, they seem to have joined the synchronised diving club >:(
It was only enlivened by the odd clip of Brazilian women :heart2: :heart2:

Will Australia beat Holland?
Stranger things have happened but I really can't see it happening :no:

Quote from: newportnobby on June 18, 2014, 10:28:48 AM
It was only enlivened by the odd clip of Brazilian women :heart2: :heart2:

For that very reason let's hope they go all the way to the final! Certainly got my attention  :goggleeyes:

You're supposed to watch the action on the field, not
leer at luscious latin lovelies..... :D

Quote from: Agrippa on June 18, 2014, 10:37:59 AM
You're supposed to watch the action on the field, not
leer at luscious latin lovelies..... :D

Then the action on the field should be more entertaining :P

Quote from: Agrippa on June 18, 2014, 10:37:59 AM
You're supposed to watch the action on the field, not
leer at luscious latin lovelies..... :D

There are some luscious latin lovelies in the Italian team, especially Lorenzo Insigne  :heart2: and Ciro Immobile :heart2:  :laugh:

Oh well enjoy!

At least this topic livelier than the Dapol v Farish fixture
taking place in another stadium near here  :D

Quote from: Agrippa on June 18, 2014, 12:25:25 PM
Oh well enjoy!

At least this topic livelier than the Dapol v Farish fixture
taking place in another stadium near here  :D

I'm on that pitch too Agrippa - things are spicing up little over there at dapol vs farish. I guess it's all been heard before though  :laugh:

Quote from: Agrippa on June 18, 2014, 12:25:25 PM
Oh well enjoy!

At least this topic livelier than the Dapol v Farish fixture
taking place in another stadium near here  :D

And I wonder what the final score will be oh a prediction Dapol 5% - Farish 5%

Not got a clue what colour shirts they will be wearing, but the referee gets my vote when he calls it Full Time  :bounce:

We're in injury time of extra time - I think the ref. has lost his watch  :laughabovepost:

Either way, it's going to be a draw.

Quote from: DesertHound on June 18, 2014, 02:52:24 PM
We're in injury time of extra time - I think the ref. has lost his watch  :laughabovepost:

Either way, it's going to be a draw.

Penalties for both sides :D

I lovin' the world cup. I'm not a great football fan now, as you can tell when I tell you my team is Norwich City :(. Still trying to get over being relegated :'(

Quote from: Pengi on June 18, 2014, 04:45:47 PM

Quote from: DesertHound on June 18, 2014, 02:52:24 PM
We're in injury time of extra time - I think the ref. has lost his watch  :laughabovepost:

Either way, it's going to be a draw.

Penalties for both sides :D

Penalties like banning us from the forum for a week  :D

We could have a card system! Two yellows and you off! Could impose for instances of bad humour ... such as mine  :thumbsup:

Lion-hearted performance by the Socceroos but the result went against them. It didn't make the Dutch look particularly good which, again, was down to the Aussies.
Now, if only Spain can lose later..... :hmmm:

Another really good game... Cahill's volley was brilliant

Quote from: newportnobby on June 18, 2014, 07:04:17 PM
Lion-hearted performance by the Socceroos but the result went against them. It didn't make the Dutch look particularly good which, again, was down to the Aussies.
Now, if only Spain can lose later..... :hmmm:

They did - I shall have to call you Mystic Mick  ;) What lottery numbers should I pick?

Spains' (read Barcelona) tippy tappy style has been well found out and he really should have been resting some of these guys who have been involved in the latter stages of European club competitions too.  No Fabregas or Silva, Torres didn't look interested and a late and ineffective appearance by Cazorla.  del Bosque must be thinking about his future, sorry, should be thinking about his future!
Having said that, Chile were superb, a work rate few could match and some great touches.

Had to laugh when Rio Ferdinand said they were playing at near Premier League pace, great pundit  ::) those last two Chile performances would have ripped every team in the Premier League to bits and with room to spare!

Quote from: Lawrence on June 18, 2014, 10:30:31 PM
Spains' (read Barcelona) tippy tappy style has been well found out and he really should have been resting some of these guys who have been involved in the latter stages of European club competitions too.  No Fabregas or Silva, Torres didn't look interested and a late and ineffective appearance by Cazorla.  del Bosque must be thinking about his future, sorry, should be thinking about his future!
Having said that, Chile were superb, a work rate few could match and some great touches.
Had to laugh when Rio Ferdinand said they were playing at near Premier League pace, great pundit  ::) those last two Chile performances would have ripped every team in the Premier League to bits and with room to spare!

Agree with much of what you say - but changing tack slightly - did you know that your Flag avatar is showing the Flag of Tenerife!.
Scotland's & Tenerife flags are identical, when we first moved onto the Island I thought we had landed in Scotland looking at the flags on the back of the local cars, but the constant sunshine told me I was in the right place.
Each Canary Island has it's own flag, and the Islands as a whole  have a flag which is white, blue, and yellow.

Back to the football - Cameroon & Croatia are just starting.

That Spanish team looked very tired the passing was bad and they just did not have a clue where the goal was, meanwhile Chile did not lookthat clever but had enough fire to kill off Spain, well it's Englands turn tonight how is it they all seem very calm because they need to get the job done tonight or there will be a lot of boo,s when they get off the plane.

Thanks, Mick... I just saw the replay and it's a shame. The Aussies played so well, but it's the result that counts - such is the nature of the game. They've got nothing to be ashamed of that's for sure. That goes for the Chile match too.

At least NSW took out QLD in the State of Origin rugby league last night... good job QLD KID is still in England!

Quote from: Pengi on June 18, 2014, 10:01:44 PM

Quote from: newportnobby on June 18, 2014, 07:04:17 PM
Lion-hearted performance by the Socceroos but the result went against them. It didn't make the Dutch look particularly good which, again, was down to the Aussies.
Now, if only Spain can lose later..... :hmmm:

They did - I shall have to call you Mystic Mick  ;) What lottery numbers should I pick?

Plagues, floods, fire, apocalypse..............beware, there could be no end to my powers >:D
Still can't mend a split gear, though :-[

 :laughabovepost:

I have a drawer full of em. (Locos with split gears, I mean)  :uneasy:

Quote from: Geoff on June 19, 2014, 06:58:28 AM
That Spanish team looked very tired the passing was bad and they just did not have a clue where the goal was, meanwhile Chile did not lookthat clever but had enough fire to kill off Spain, well it's Englands turn tonight how is it they all seem very calm because they need to get the job done tonight or there will be a lot of boo,s when they get off the plane.

You missed 'tomorrow' off the end of that sentence  ;)

Quote from: Tdm on June 18, 2014, 11:06:01 PM

Quote from: Lawrence on June 18, 2014, 10:30:31 PM
Spains' (read Barcelona) tippy tappy style has been well found out and he really should have been resting some of these guys who have been involved in the latter stages of European club competitions too.  No Fabregas or Silva, Torres didn't look interested and a late and ineffective appearance by Cazorla.  del Bosque must be thinking about his future, sorry, should be thinking about his future!
Having said that, Chile were superb, a work rate few could match and some great touches.
Had to laugh when Rio Ferdinand said they were playing at near Premier League pace, great pundit  ::) those last two Chile performances would have ripped every team in the Premier League to bits and with room to spare!

Agree with much of what you say - but changing tack slightly - did you know that your Flag avatar is showing the Flag of Tenerife!.
Scotland's & Tenerife flags are identical, when we first moved onto the Island I thought we had landed in Scotland looking at the flags on the back of the local cars, but the constant sunshine told me I was in the right place.
Each Canary Island has it's own flag, and the Islands as a whole  have a flag which is white, blue, and yellow.

I did indeed know that, I'm full of useful useless info like that too  ;D

They think it's all over!

It soon will be! :D

3-0 England I say.

As a Welshman I also want England to win......don`t believe that we don`t secretly cheer for the English in football... that only happens when its the funny shape ball game..... It would be great to have a Welsh team qualify for a major tournament but we just don`t have the strength in depth... I am a supporter of any of the home nations and would shout for the Scots/Irish and Northern Irish if they were there.... maybe one day Gareth Bale will grace a major tournament but I think it will be like Giggs and Best ... great players but unable to play on the greatest stage.

Having jinxed Spain, I'd better keep schtum about England :uneasy:

Quote from: port perran on June 19, 2014, 02:16:35 PM
3-0 England I say.

Jokes should be posted in a separate section.  :D

Quote from: Agrippa on June 19, 2014, 04:14:00 PM

Quote from: port perran on June 19, 2014, 02:16:35 PM
3-0 England I say.

Jokes should be posted in a separate section.  :D

It's not a joke - it's a nightmare!
😱

Quote from: Agrippa on June 19, 2014, 04:14:00 PM

Quote from: port perran on June 19, 2014, 02:16:35 PM
3-0 England I say.

Jokes should be posted in a separate section.  :D

Absolutely PMSL at that Agrippa, don't mind if this squad does a bit better than the last lot, not quite so much up themselves and haven't actually heard '66 mentioned that often.

Let's face it, they are the only one of the four home nations (excluding Cornwall) to have made it to Brazil so I guess they deserve a little support from the rest of us, especially as they seem to have been a little more modest (realistic!) about their chances in the competition this time.

Quote from: Lawrence on June 19, 2014, 08:21:11 PM

Quote from: Agrippa on June 19, 2014, 04:14:00 PM

Quote from: port perran on June 19, 2014, 02:16:35 PM
3-0 England I say.

Jokes should be posted in a separate section.  :D

Absolutely PMSL at that Agrippa, don't mind if this squad does a bit better than the last lot, not quite so much up themselves and haven't actually heard '66 mentioned that often.

Let's face it, they are the only one of the four home nations (excluding Cornwall) to have made it to Brazil so I guess they deserve a little support from the rest of us, especially as they seem to have been a little more modest (realistic!) about their chances in the competition this time.

That's except for ITV commentators!

Just given up watching the England game ::)
If there's a cheer from the telly I suspect it will be another goal by Uruguay :unimpressed:

Rooney has just proved me wrong :doh:

Its all over now  :veryangry:  :'(  :veryangry:

Even if they lose there's still a chance but it won't be in their control :worried:

What can i say other than, my car now has no flags on it!!

Grumpy
simon

England got what they deserved. Its about time we learnt  how to play football.

Dodger

 A great goal from Stevie G !

Gerrard flicks the ball to Suarez - GOAL  :oopssign:

Just watched replay. Ah well that's me home country and me adopted country given their marching orders... looks like I'm back watching DVDs.  :'(

Well we went with low expectations and they have been met.  As you say we are not on the bus home yet but it's not in our control anymore.

Fingers crossed and work out who your "Other" team is (no pressure)...

BTW Who is your "Other" team?

Might switch to Uruguay (he said, pleased he's half a planet away now)  :D

Quote from: Pengi on June 20, 2014, 06:56:48 AM
Gerrard flicks the ball to Suarez - GOAL  :oopssign:

Yeah but he passed it to a team mate.... :censored:

Would be nice to see a surprise winner of the World Cup, like Chile, Netherlands or even USA, that would send shock waves through the world of soccer  ;D

I am a fan of the Netherlands, their team and supporters are amazing. Was in Amsterdam when one of the tournaments was going on some years back, the buildings were decked out in orange, - a terrific sight and a wonderful atmosphere (and not from the cafes either ;) ).

And my Premier League team has appointed a Dutch manager :)

Quote from: Greybeema on June 20, 2014, 08:03:59 AM
BTW Who is your "Other" team?

Always been a secret Holland fan,since watching those great Dutch sides of the 70's as a kid.......(http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/holland/smileys-holland-107805.gif) (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/)
 

Quote from: Bealman on June 20, 2014, 07:03:31 AM
Just watched replay. Ah well that's me home country and me adopted country given their marching orders... looks like I'm back watching DVDs.  :'(

At least your adopted country put more effort into the game than your home country, George ::)
Quite frankly, it was too embarrassing to watch so I gave up after about 60 minutes (why torture myself further?) :censored:

Chris Robshaw belts out the English anthem with pride, Gerrard seems to mumble the words. What a difference in the two England captains . . .

Gerrard  was probably mumbling about "The Jairmans". :D

You just had to watch the Uruguayans singing their anthem compared to our pathetic lot.
Overpaid, overpampered and lacking talent. And above all lacking desire and commitment !

It's 8pm here and I've just rented Tom Hanks in captain Phillips.. :beers:

Overpaid
Overindulged
Overrated
Over and out.

However at least  England actually got to Brazil, the last time Scotland
reached the finals the captain  was Rob Roy, and have  Wales and Northern
Ireland ever got to this stage?

Quote from: Bealman on June 20, 2014, 10:55:13 AM
It's 8pm here and I've just rented Tom Hanks in captain Phillips.. :beers:

Who plays Princess Anne?  :D

OK now Pengi has mentioned the best team in the world I am trying to think what that has to do with England, oh yeah they had a couple of players in the team, I have heard that the said team is going to change its colours to Orange and wear clogs when not playing football so the manager knows what the players are up to after hours.

Quote from: Geoff on June 20, 2014, 11:22:34 AM
OK now Pengi has mentioned the best team in the world I am trying to think what that has to do with England, oh yeah they had a couple of players in the team, I have heard that the said team is going to change its colours to Orange and wear clogs when not playing football so the manager knows what the players are up to after hours.

Didn't realise you were a Southampton fan, Geoff?

Quote from: Arrachogaidh on June 20, 2014, 11:18:55 AM
Thought you were more mature!

I'm like Tony Benn, I immature with age.... :D

Quote from: Pengi on June 20, 2014, 12:11:51 PM

Quote from: Geoff on June 20, 2014, 11:22:34 AM
OK now Pengi has mentioned the best team in the world I am trying to think what that has to do with England, oh yeah they had a couple of players in the team, I have heard that the said team is going to change its colours to Orange and wear clogs when not playing football so the manager knows what the players are up to after hours.

Didn't realise you were a Southampton fan, Geoff?

Nah thought you meant Accrington Stanley

Quote from: Geoff on June 20, 2014, 12:21:03 PM

Quote from: Pengi on June 20, 2014, 12:11:51 PM

Quote from: Geoff on June 20, 2014, 11:22:34 AM
OK now Pengi has mentioned the best team in the world I am trying to think what that has to do with England, oh yeah they had a couple of players in the team, I have heard that the said team is going to change its colours to Orange and wear clogs when not playing football so the manager knows what the players are up to after hours.

Didn't realise you were a Southampton fan, Geoff?

Nah thought you meant Accrington Stanley

Accrington Stanley Milk Ad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBOIXO-X1QU#ws)

A World Cup thing but not related to Engerland, I noticed all the subs on the benches wear
brown tabards like a lot of office cleaners . Just looks a bit weird. Perhaps to get some
players accustomed to a post - football career.

Makes me ashamed to be Scottish:-

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/watch-cheeky-scotland-fan-celebrate-3729957 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/watch-cheeky-scotland-fan-celebrate-3729957)

Quote from: NeilMac on June 20, 2014, 01:56:54 PM
Makes me ashamed to be Scottish:-

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/watch-cheeky-scotland-fan-celebrate-3729957 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/watch-cheeky-scotland-fan-celebrate-3729957)

Hehe nah, it's all part of the 'friendly rivalry'. Besides, did you read the bit in the article about him taking old football kits out for the Brazilian street kids? (it's not like the Scotland team needed them anyway ;) )

Message....England not yet out...Italy quite likely to beat both Costa Rica today and Uruguay in their last group game ....then its game on for the England Costa Rica match....certainly not a total lost cause....HAVE SOME FAITH !!!!!!...well at least until 7pm tonight...

If I wanted to waste 2 hours watching sweaty guys desperately try to score, I'd go out drinking with my single buddies.

It looks like that the most successful England Team coach for 48 years ... will be the National Express from Heathrow Airport next week.

Quote from: Malc on June 20, 2014, 02:50:29 PM
It looks like that the most successful England Team coach for 48 years ... will be the National Express from Heathrow Airport next week.

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: Made me laugh that one!

Quote from: port perran on June 20, 2014, 10:51:10 AM
You just had to watch the Uruguayans singing their anthem compared to our pathetic lot.
Overpaid, overpampered and lacking talent. And above all lacking desire and commitment !

Totally agree with you there. I thought the idea of football was to move the ball towards the opponents goal in order to put the ball in said goal. Our tactics seem to stop after a while so that we can pass back to the goalkeeper, to keep him awake I suppose!

Dodger 

Looks like the Italians learned something from England after all, then ::)
Costa Rica fully deserve to top that group, having played some great football :claphappy:

I'd agree with that.

Oh dear even I now have to admit defeat.....still will enjoy the footie even without any home nations

Not sure whether I should put this in the "FOR SALE" section or not.

# Rake of 11 misfits that can loosely be described as "hoppers".
# Unfortunately not good runners & performers, and expensive to maintain.
# In need of a good overhaul and re-tune by a miracle worker.
# For further details please contact the English F.A.,
    enclosing a stamped addressed envelope and a suggested action list
    on how to remedy the current situation.

I plucked out slips of paper marked Germany and Italy in our draw for our team sweepstake at work ... at least both teams still have promise for getting to the knock-out stages ...

Actually England did win a World Cup this morning and better still the team retained the World Cup.

England won the Junior Rugby World Cup defeating South Africa 21-20. 
So well done lads..

For info the 3rd/4th place play off finished win a win for New Zealand over Ireland 21-43 (I think)...

I know this will wind up a few but winning a rugby world cup is no where near as hard as a football world cup... There are probably 3/4 sides capable of winning it and no real qualification problems for the top nations..please bear in mind I'm welsh and I know my rugby...don't get me started on all those other minority spoorts such asthe mickey mouse sailing olympic gold medals...how many countries enter these sort of events...so footie world is definitely harder to win..I rest my case

Sparky,

You are right but winning a world championship is still a great achievement. 

Do we measure sporting achievement by the number of people who participate in a specific sport?  I think if we did then winning the fishing world championship (if there is one) would be the #1 achievement in the world...

Depends if you regard fishing as sport. I regard it as a pastime like snooker or darts but if you want to
call it sport that's fine. According to the OED sport is a competitive activity involving physical effort and skill.
Many pastimes involve skill, but physical activity is not a major factor. I once took part in a fishing competition
and I've seen more activity on a bouncy castle !

They think it's all over . . . it is now :laugh:


Paul

Quote from: Sprintex on June 21, 2014, 02:42:54 AM
They think it's all over . . . it is now :laugh:


Paul

Only for a handful of teams . . . ;)

Engerland still to play Costa Rica.....can they make it three in a row? (England that is )

..bye bye England........next match bye bye Italy :)

Anybody for tennis? Next stop SW London next week.  ::)

Reminds me of a gag (Marx Bros ?)

Groucho - Anyone for tennis ?

Woman - I play a shocking game.

Groucho - Well then we'll play that instead !

If Scotland votes for independence this may be the last year for a long time that we may have a "British" winner?

OK, I'll fess up and state I usually don't have a good word to say about the French side but they played out of their skins last night and were runaway winners against Switzerland, despite the Swiss being much higher in the world rankings than France.
Super performance :claphappy:

Quote from: newportnobby on June 21, 2014, 12:48:22 PM
OK, I'll fess up and state I usually don't have a good word to say about the French side but they played out of their skins last night and were runaway winners against Switzerland, despite the Swiss being much higher in the world rankings than France.
Super performance :claphappy:

Trust the French! I was working on a Duchess last night in the spare room (a loco that is - just in case any of you thought I was that well connected!) with the volume turned up for the French-Swiss game. Needless to say I was in and out if the living room like someone with their pants on fire!

Dan

I don't mind the Froggies, look at all the things they gave us

William the Conqueror
Napoleon
TGV
Citroen 2cv
Croque Monsieur
Jeanne Moreau
Arsene Wenger
Bic pens

the list is endless......................

My big concern is the thought of all those poor frogs going around in wheelchairs :(

Quote from: Agrippa on June 21, 2014, 01:43:10 PM
I don't mind the Froggies, look at all the things they gave us

Citroen 2cv

Naah! Not the Citroen Dustbin! The French gave us the Citroen Traction Avant...a beautiful car!

Not so beautiful has been England's performance this time around. Cannot fault Roy for his squad selection - he was right to pick younger players, and he would have been pilloried either way with Rooney, it is just many of our brightest talents are too inexperienced.  I would be surprised if Gerrard continued - at least as captain, but really as an England international - but the jury is out on Rooney.

Perhaps Hodgeson needs to be brave and follow the lead of Brendan Rogers with Andy Carroll. Carroll did not suit the Liverpool team Rogers was trying to build, so he was shipped out. Rooney has been looking like a square peg in a round hole (goal notwithstanding). Perhaps Hodgeson should stop trying to square off the edges and look for alternative pegs...

Still, what this means is that I can watch the rest of the cup without worrying about who is going to win. I should be following the Dutch, on account of Mrs Dreyfus' origins - but cannot really bring myself to do so!

More dodgy reffing! Iran should have gotten a penalty against the Argies. Cannot help but think if it was at the other end of the pitch then the decision would have been different.

Doubt that ref will be going far in the tournament. Then again, at this rate, there won't be many refs suitable to ref the knock-out stages!

Next kommt ze Germans!

Epic fight put up by Iran, and they should have won.
Maybe Hodgson should attend some of the training sessions of these so called 'lesser' teams as he might find out what makes them run and run with a great pride to be there representing their country - unlike our sorry shower.
Well done, Iran :thumbsup:

Yup - what is it with our lot? They always just seem like they can't be bothered. I get the feeling they wouldn't even get up off the sofa at home and make their own tea! It would certainly require more effort than they showed the other night!

Dan

They're just Scotland in disguise ..... :D

I also think people should remember that we have so far played 2 of the better teams who were ranked 6th and 9th in the world before the competition started. We were ranked 10th by the way. Then, Costa Rica (started 34th, now 28th) have beaten both of them too so it won't be an easy ride on Tuesday either! Add to that the fact that a lot of youngsters are out there for us without the experience and it's not all bad. I'd much rather we try out the youngsters both now and in 2 years time (if we qualify) so we can hopefully have a more settled time in the future. It's either that or we continue to settle for progression to the quarter-finals in every competition and settle for mediocrity. Unfortunately and as usual the negativity from some people far outweighs people like myself who can always see their glass being half full rather than half empty. It is unfortunately a typical British thing to knock success and indeed encourage and enjoy failure. I have never been able to get my head around this and doubt I ever will do.
Let's all try to change the way we carry on and actually get behind our teams (not just footballers) and encourage them. I already do this whether it's football (a game I enjoy), rugby (a game I only watch if England are playing), cricket (again a big game watcher) or anything else where England are competing. I'd like to think the press/media could do the same but I'm unable to perform miracles and I don't want to sell papers either.
Come on England!

Well said that man.

Quote from: Trainfish on June 21, 2014, 08:31:04 PM
I also think people should remember that we have so far played 2 of the better teams who were ranked 6th and 9th in the world before the competition started. We were ranked 10th by the way. Then, Costa Rica (started 34th, now 28th) have beaten both of them too so it won't be an easy ride on Tuesday either! Add to that the fact that a lot of youngsters are out there for us without the experience and it's not all bad. I'd much rather we try out the youngsters both now and in 2 years time (if we qualify) so we can hopefully have a more settled time in the future. It's either that or we continue to settle for progression to the quarter-finals in every competition and settle for mediocrity. Unfortunately and as usual the negativity from some people far outweighs people like myself who can always see their glass being half full rather than half empty. It is unfortunately a typical British thing to knock success and indeed encourage and enjoy failure. I have never been able to get my head around this and doubt I ever will do.
Let's all try to change the way we carry on and actually get behind our teams (not just footballers) and encourage them. I already do this whether it's football (a game I enjoy), rugby (a game I only watch if England are playing), cricket (again a big game watcher) or anything else where England are competing. I'd like to think the press/media could do the same but I'm unable to perform miracles and I don't want to sell papers either.
Come on England!

I do get behind my team - but they've got to earn my support. We have picked 22 players from what is the best league in the world (and yes I believe it is) and we cannot progress past the first stage.

I don't enjoy their failure, but I'm pretty indifferent to it these days.

Wish I could share your optimism for the sport WE invented Trainfish  :D

I'm fully behind Jensen Button - does that count  :claphappy:

The premier league may well be the best in the world.....but the best players are not English and that is the key..not enough British players are first choice at their club so England will continue to struggle

Quote from: sparky on June 21, 2014, 11:44:44 PM
The premier league may well be the best in the world.....but the best players are not English and that is the key..not enough British players are first choice at their club so England will continue to struggle

Agree with you 100% Sparky, hence why I made the point. Those English players that are there (few as they might be), are in the company of the best in the world, and wouldn't be there if they weren't also some of the best in the world. I believe we have some exceptional individual players, but as a team ... ?

Now, do I think the lack of English players in the Premiership presents the FA with a conundrum? Absolutely! Unfortunately their hands are tied. I believe under EU law they will never be able to put a cap on this (unless an exception is made for football EU wide).

We had five on field players for Liverpool in the line-up. One of the best teams in the best league in the world. The other team had one Liverpool player  :laughabovepost:

I take the whole thing quite lightheartedly, and I think most people do - hence the misconception that some think "the nation are against them". I'll remain that way until I see some real progress (evidently I did think it was there in the first game against Italy, but sadly lacking in the second game).

As TrainFish said though, we do have promising youngsters in the team so there is potential.

Dan

Some very good points in the above discussion, and it makes me realise just what a good performance the Aussies put in over their two games. Sure, they're coming home, but so are England, and I honestly think the Aussies made a better go of it. The media here think so too.

But, as I say, some relevant issues brought up here.  :thumbsup:

Let's not kid ourselves , England are utter crap. Despite all the "Just one goal stuff".
If they get a point against Costa Rica they'll be doing well. In 4 years time this
post will be repeated.   Along with moans about Dapol locos!

Quote from: DesertHound on June 21, 2014, 09:44:17 PM
I'm fully behind Jensen Button - does that count  :claphappy:

So you'll be starting less than 11th on the grid for this afternoon's Austrian GP then :-X
At least F1 is a sport that regularly provides a UK world champion.
Sorry ............... :offtopicsign:

Vroom vroom!  ;D

Quote from: newportnobby on June 22, 2014, 10:06:15 AM

Quote from: DesertHound on June 21, 2014, 09:44:17 PM
I'm fully behind Jensen Button - does that count  :claphappy:

So you'll be starting less than 11th on the grid for this afternoon's Austrian GP then :-X
At least F1 is a sport that regularly provides a UK world champion.
Sorry ............... :offtopicsign:

Cycling, equestrian, rowing regularly provide UK world champions too  ;) Problem with football is the media hyping up young players to be the next best thing since Pele - no wonder they can't live up to the expectation.

Well did you see the Germany game the Germans were quaking in there boots, well done Ghana for sticking it up the Germans, lets hope there are more shocks in this World Cup.

PS Roy Hodgson should resign good manager or not, its a matter of principal.

If you were being paid half a sqillion  a year for a part time job would you resign?  :D

Dead simple. No.  ;D

Rosberg - a Dane in disguise  :laughabovepost:

Quote from: Geoff on June 22, 2014, 12:51:17 PM
Well did you see the Germany game the Germans were quaking in there boots, well done Ghana for sticking it up the Germans, lets hope there are more shocks in this World Cup.

PS Roy Hodgson should resign good manager or not, its a matter of principal.

Who would take over? English managers in the Premier League last year are Pulis, Bruce, Sherwood, Hughton, Pardew - doesn't exactly set the pulses racing :thumbsdown: . . .

Maybe too soon for Brendan Rogers - need to see how he copes with Champions League

I think the question should be who would want to take over. Poisoned chalice!

Quote from: Pengi on June 22, 2014, 03:05:04 PM

Quote from: Geoff on June 22, 2014, 12:51:17 PM
Well did you see the Germany game the Germans were quaking in there boots, well done Ghana for sticking it up the Germans, lets hope there are more shocks in this World Cup.

PS Roy Hodgson should resign good manager or not, its a matter of principal.

Who would take over? English managers in the Premier League last year are Pulis, Bruce, Sherwood, Hughton, Pardew - doesn't exactly set the pulses racing :thumbsdown: . . .

Maybe too soon for Brendan Rogers - need to see how he copes with Champions League

Someone who can put a team together to get a result.
Which all English fans want, I am sorry for saying this but the FA are full of passed it over paid and full of themselves thinking they are doing a good job.

Harry Rednap was the fans choice but did they listen no they did not, just like our government never listen to the people just do what they think is right, the problem with British football is eveything is regimented players played out of position, no passion no Grit and no Moral Fibre.

Not enough young players coming through to get a chance of playing in the premier league, to many foreign players, we as a football nation have done this to ourselves if Ghana could hold Germany to a draw and they played until they dropped, over half of the team could not stand after the match and thats what we have to do to beat these teams.

Agree with you 100% Geoff. Like another poster said, at least we can get on with enjoying the World Cup now  :claphappy:

I would have liked to see Harry get it. There was most definitely an agenda against him!

Quite liked El Tel when he was in too!

I'll take the job for a few million. I'm sure I could manage to lose a few games in a row  :P

Dan

I feel a good stimulus would be, if they win they get paid their crazy money, if they lose they get the minimum wage for that week.

That might get their attention  >:D  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

cheers John - someone who has never had any interest in football.

Quote from: scotsoft on June 22, 2014, 03:41:40 PM
I feel a good stimulus would be, if they win they get paid their crazy money, if they lose they get the minimum wage for that week.

That might get their attention  >:D  :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

cheers John - someone who has never had any interest in football.

I think what you are forgetting is that they do not need the England wage they earn more from advertisement deals, so they only do enough and cry off when under performing.

So easy to say sorry, and for hodgson to say the boys played well sorry but they did not play well if they played well they would of won so Hodgson get on your bike.

My wife's not even from the UK (or Europe) and she's baffled at how cr*p we are at our most popular sport. It's not just an "English Disease" when we bash our team for being a joke. The rest of the world agrees with us  :laugh:

Quote from: Geoff on June 22, 2014, 03:20:05 PM
Not enough young players coming through to get a chance of playing in the premier league, to many foreign players, we as a football nation have done this to ourselves if Ghana could hold Germany to a draw and they played until they dropped, over half of the team could not stand after the match and thats what we have to do to beat these teams.

Perhaps we should employ the Ghana manager. The he could change to stupid method of played that has failed in major tournaments for at least the last 20 years. At least we would start playing attacking football again.

The only reason that there are too man foreign footballers in the leagues is due to the lack of enough good English players.

Dodger

I think it should be a max of three foreign players in every league (forget all that EU labour law nonsense) and the manager should be from said country!

I remember VfB Stuttgart having to replay Leeds (I think) in a European game - that they'd already won - since they'd fielded a fourth foreigner (back in the day when there were such rules). Needless to say, they list the replay  :laugh:

Is it all down to the Premier League ?
I think so.
As a supporter of a Div One team, I think the Premier League is nowhere near what it's cracked up to be.
"The most exciting league in the world" - I think not. Nowhere near as exciting as Champiuonship/Div One and Two.
How many teams have won it ? Is it 5 ?
Is it usually close (except a few times)?   NO
Is it good fooball -rarely - just listen to the atmosphere at most games.
Are the players overpaid? YES.
Do the players have any perception of real life ? NO.
Do they care ? NO
And........to quote a buzz word which players/managers always quote on TV "He/They have a great work ethic" - Ask any premiership footballer what ethic means. They will look at you with a blank face !  They just roll out a commonly used phrase with no idea of it's meaning.
And.....why are they always tired ? In my days teams (inc Div One) played Good Friday/Easter Saturday and Easter Monday (3 games in 4 days). Now they can't manage 2 games in a fortnight!
And they can't play with a damaged meta tarsel (didn't have those in the 70s) or with a broken toe nail!!
Rant over !!

Quote from: port perran on June 22, 2014, 07:53:43 PM
And they can't play with a damaged meta tarsel (didn't have those in the 70s) or with a broken toe nail!!
Rant over !!

Or if the WAGS aren't allowed to come on tour!  :'(

Quote from: port perran on June 22, 2014, 07:53:43 PM
Is it all down to the Premier League ?
I think so.
As a supporter of a Div One team, I think the Premier League is nowhere near what it's cracked up to be.
"The most exciting league in the world" - I think not. Nowhere near as exciting as Champiuonship/Div One and Two.
How many teams have won it ? Is it 5 ?
Is it usually close (except a few times)?   NO
Is it good fooball -rarely - just listen to the atmosphere at most games.
Are the players overpaid? YES.
Do the players have any perception of real life ? NO.
Do they care ? NO
And........to quote a buzz word which players/managers always quote on TV "He/They have a great work ethic" - Ask any premiership footballer what ethic means. They will look at you with a blank face !  They just roll out a commonly used phrase with no idea of it's meaning.
And.....why are they always tired ? In my days teams (inc Div One) played Good Friday/Easter Saturday and Easter Monday (3 games in 4 days). Now they can't manage 2 games in a fortnight!
And they can't play with a damaged meta tarsel (didn't have those in the 70s) or with a broken toe nail!!
Rant over !!

As a fellow league 1 fan I agree 100%. The Premier League has ruined the rest of the league financially through greed. Unfortunately the Premier League "fans" rarely acknowledge this and continue to spend stupid amounts on tickets and merchandise. My team Swindon had 1 season in the Premier League or Premiership or whatever it was called back in 93/94, didn't like it so went back to the proper leagues where you will see a lot more passion and playing for places. The atmosphere in the top half of the Premier League is almost non existant as the "fans" nibble away on their prawn sandwiches and don't even know who is playing for 'their' team never mind the opposing team players' names. The top teams will buy decent players from the 3 leagues below as stupidly low prices knowing those clybs have to take what is on offer just to survive.

Anyway, the Premier League and its faults etc are probably for another thread as this one is about the World Cup. It seems my post yesterday predictably ruffled a couple of feathers with some interesting responses and more negativity. I'll respond to a few points without having a go at individuals although it will be obvious who some are intended for as they made the points.
First of all, just because we invented the game doesn't mean we have a right to be the best. We are a small island in comparison to mane of the countries out there and will naturally have less players to choose from.
I don't watch enough Italian, Spanish, Brazilian league football to say whether I believe the Premier League to be the best in the world but it's not bad. Unfortunately it is full (I believe 70% was quoted on TV the other day) of foreign players who will never qualify for our national team. Yes, our players are playing alongside this 70% so they should be of a similar standard in theory but at the moment they are not. This is why as I stated before we need to start with the youngsters and bring them up through the ranks of both Premier League and International football. The only problem here (and it has been mentioned in this thread) is that everyone these days wants instant success. This doesn't just go for football either, it's the same in any other business and yes, football at this level is primarily a business.
A cap on the number of 'foreigners' in a team would be a great idea and was mooted not too long ago within UEFA I believe. Apologies if it was actually FIFA. It worked before and there's no reason why it shouldn't do now. Unfortunately we're back to the business side of things and it won't take long for cries of "restriction of trade" etc ring out.
Someone mentioned that the nation are not against the players/team but unfortunately it doesn't look like that. I still believe if people want to be negative without a constructive argument they should just keep their thoughts to themselves. As I said before, get behind the team, whether you like it or not they are representing YOUR country!
Football is the biggest spectator sport there is so yes, it will attract most media attention as it will sell more papers, attracts more viewers etc etc. Unfortunately it also attracts the negativity and I'm afraid that no matter what I say it will never change and certainly not in this country. Something brought up has been whether Hodgson should be sacked, resign, hung drawn and quartered etc. That's just laughable I'm afraid. We don't have anyone English (in my mind the England team manager MUST be English just as the players do) to take his place at the moment. Having said that, if Redknapp was appointed I'd give Jamie my full support as I believe he could do the job some time in the future.
Anyway, I think I've said enough for now. You may have guessed that I am quite passionate about MY team, MY country and also MY chosen league club. I still stand by what I said and would encourage EVERYONE to get behind THEIR teams and show them that you care and you want them to do well. At the same time let's remember, there were 32 squads in the World Cup and only 1 can win it. This means there will be many disappointed fans out there but it doesn't mean they will give up on their team. There's always Euro 2016 and the World Cup in 2018.

I need a beer!  :beers:

Couldn't agree more with your first paragraph there Trainfish, although I'll out myself now as an Arsenal fan - have been since the days of George Graham! What will become of the Premier League with all this money flowing in, I just don't know. My thoughts are that, like any sport, the further it detaches from grass-roots, it is just setting itself up for a greater fall (think unsustainable finances, unaffordable ticket prices / tv packages etc. etc. etc.) I think one day the chicken will come home to roost!

Now, onto the small matter of the World Cup. I think most of us on here are just having a bit of friendly banter  :laugh:

I had to laugh about this though (and honestly please don't be offended - I'm a nice guy really!) ...

First of all, just because we invented the game doesn't mean we have a right to be the best. We are a small island in comparison to mane of the countries out there and will naturally have less players to choose from.

I believe Uruguay has a population of 7 million. There's not much in it, but I think you'll find we come up trumps against Italy on that one too.

As for getting behind the team, some of these "professionals" simply aren't worthy of it. Walking off the bus into the changing room with their ridiculously over-sized Beats headphones, killing or injuring people in their sports cars because they are speeding or eating an ice-cream, investing in offshore tax-avoiding schemes to save a few pennies on their millions, pretending to snort cocaine from the goal line (ok, that was only one certain ex-England Intl.) ... the list goes on. Hardly a great role model for the younger generation! I don't see apathy in supporting some of these buffoons as negative, indeed I see it as morally upright to hold them in such contempt.

Playing for the national team (and any high profile team for that matter) carries responsibilities. Given, the youngsters in the team should be given the benefit of the doubt, but what I've seen over the past twenty years or so beggars belief. There are professionals in this sport, and they are the ones we should commend - win or lose. Gerard and Shearer spring to mind.

Come on - we're all friends on here, it's just banter. England are cr*p, at least I think they are, along with half the nation  :laugh:

I'll join you for that beer  :beers:

Dan

This is getting bigger than the Dapol v  Farish debate ! Football is a working class  sport and the people that
play it in the Premiership get huge wages and buy sports cars , get drunk,  fall out of nightclubs and get
arrested. Nature of the beast when you're a chav making tens or thousands of pounds a week.
Guys like Gerrard and Rooney would be shelfstackers if they couldn't kick  a ball.

And Gerrard's time is surely up.

Nature of the beast when you're a chav making tens or thousands of pounds a week.

:smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: don't know if that was a typo, but I love it! Couldn't have put it better myself, "if they were making tens OR thousands of pounds a week."

A typo I'm afraid,  you couldn't get in or out of a nightclub
on tens per week.

Red face and sent to the naughty chair!

Swindon v Arsenal League Cup Final March 15th 1969, 3-1 to Swindon after extra time. Sorry but we haven't won much so I like to get that one in when I can  :D

I agree regarding the Premiership, I believe it will implode one day. Maybe you can help it along and stop buying those shirts with white sleeves  :-\

Fair comment on the population of Uruguay Dan but we still don't have a right to be better than them. Uruguay according to Wikipedia actually only had 3,369,000 population in 2010, Italy 60,782,668 estimated last year so more than England, 53,012,456 in 2011.

I can kind of see where you're coming from regarding the attitudes of some top players but do you not think that could be a 2 way thing? I've seen and heard some of the abuse so called fans hurl at some of these players and if I was them I may try to shut it out at times too, especially just before a game when I'm getting off the team bus. Maybe the fans should back off and the players will become more approachable? We'll never know unless we try.

Thanks for the reasoned response but I'm afraid all the beer has now gone  :worried:

Agrippa, I don't have time to join the Farish v Dapol debate I'm afraid, too much going on here. As for Gerrard, yes. I believe it is time he moved on from the national team. He's 34 now and I think we've seen his best. I've also just realised I'm almost old enough to legally be his father. I'm pretty sure I'm not though!

Arsenal haven't won much in the last ten years either come to think of it Trainfish  :D

I'd love one of the old JVC shirts, was having a discussion recently on whether you could get the "classics". I only have one arsenal shirt - it stays in the cupboard and comes out on match days - it's strictly indoor attire!

Those population stats seem a bit off, are you sure you've got them the right way around? I'm only going off what the tv chappie said about Uruguay the other day, as for England I realise I've just made the cardinal sin ... I've quoted a figure for the UK ... doh!  :doh:

Yup, agree that the fans are worse than the players in most instances (probably including Cantona), hence the football shirt is home attire only!

Should really get over to the Farish vs Dapol debate ... then again, I've been mouthing off a bit there too ... I'm starting to see a common denominator  :-X

Righty ho - off to bed! Poor old USA just couldn't hold on for that final 30 seconds. Unfortunately I've a bad feeling going into the game with Germany. Fingers crossed they make it.

Dan

Yes, USA were unlucky but they are now the team who I want to win the World Cup seeing as we can't. As for the old shirts try TOFFS (http://www.toffs.com/retro-football-shirts/english-teams/arsenal). The link will take you directly to the Arsenal shirts including some JVC ones  :thumbsup:

Trainfish I have just read your epilouge about the Premier league and yes you are right what you say, it is to expensive, and I do like to watch my team on the box and not no more on the terraces its just out of my reach since a certain party took the team over, passionate about football I am passionate about my country I am, but what I do expect is if your sent out to do a job with your country and fail at the first hurdle then you should stand down, I think it will take someone special to take over the national squad, who will it be next that I do not know, if only I had a team near me in the championship I might go, I am enjoying the World cup to a point when our national team play I shout at the TV, we have been out played out classed, and I think when it comes to young players I do not think they are nurtured enough for european games or international games, to much money goes to high profile players in the premier league and not enough money pumped down to the training and bringing up of young players, there seems to be something missing, there needs to be more being done like english youth training centres, cash is key and I am sorry to say it is all being taken by the premier league players, I watch kids play football on the park and I see them being bullied by there trainers which is not right, so many things wrong with the game at the moment.

I am gutted for the USA :( and hope that they get through.

I am convinced the Premier League is the cause of England's failures because of the pressures heaped upon teams and the vast amounts of cash for PL places.

At the top there is pressure on the four or five clubs chasing the title or Champions league who are unlikely to be relegated and pressure on the rest to escape relegation (it only needs a run of bad form for a club in a safe position to be sucked in :worried:).

It is no wonder that some clubs spend irresponsibly on foreign imports rather than take the time to grow English talent for example Man City/Chelsea and QPR/Sunderland/Spurs. Some clubs are not even prepared to give Brit managers more time and the owners of some clubs are not 'fit and proper' in the way that they behave.

As a Southampton fan, I enjoyed our seasons in Div One and the Championship, being out of the national media spotlight and our success was based on developing and blooding players from our academy.

Our 'reward' from developing these players, is having them picked over by the 'big clubs' who want instant success. If the sensationalist media reports are to be believed, we will only have one player left in the team next season :o So sometimes I wonder, why should teams bother to develop their own UK players when the team could be weakened later on?

How many of the PL 'big names' have actually delivered at this World Cup? Only Suarez and Hazard immediately come to mind and yet Clint Dempsey was sold as he did not deliver instant PL success. And PL teams are no longer as dominant in the Champions league either. So I don't even think that the PL is the best league in the world - if it was players would not leave for Madrid etc

Rant over

I think England's attitude has been summed up this morning by Gerrard being asked by other English players 'how to avoid being picked for England'.
Of course, there'll now be an Inquisition (possibly of the Spanish variety).
As has previously been suggested - pay the players a basic wage and results based bonus and, who knows, we might actually see some improvement :hmmm:

...Italian "inquisitors" (sport press) are only waiting Italian team elimination!!...
:)

..as football supporter ...my secret dream is....watching for a match on Liverpool' Kop singin' "You'll never walk alone"

Quote from: marco neri on June 23, 2014, 07:02:19 PM

...Italian "inquisitors" (sport press) are only waiting Italian team elimination!!...
:)

..as football supporter ...my secret dream is....watching for a match on Liverpool' Kop singin' "You'll never walk alone"

As a Liverpool supporter and a former Kop season ticket holder for many years ( i can no longer afford to go to the game very often),i hope one day you get to
fulfill your dream Marco...... :thumbsup:
Even after 30 years it still sends shivers down my spine when the Kop is in full voice...... :claphappy:

Quote from: Dock Shunter on June 23, 2014, 07:23:36 PM

Quote from: marco neri on June 23, 2014, 07:02:19 PM

...Italian "inquisitors" (sport press) are only waiting Italian team elimination!!...
:)

..as football supporter ...my secret dream is....watching for a match on Liverpool' Kop singin' "You'll never walk alone"

As a Liverpool supporter and a former Kop season ticket holder for many years ( i can no longer afford to go to the game very often),i hope one day you get to
fulfill your dream Marco...... :thumbsup:
Even after 30 years it still sends shivers down my spine when the Kop is in full voice...... :claphappy:

...may be...may be.. :thankyousign:

Meanwhile, back at the World Cup.............
Chile put the frighteners on Holland and Brazil v Cameroon has just started.
Looks like the Beeb has given up and is now showing wall to wall Wimbledon ::)
I'm tempted to watch the games on ITV4 just avoid that Chiles bloke :censored:

 :photospleasesign: Out here in the Middle East it's on a channel (s) called BeIn sports (rebranded from Al Jazeera Sports - same as the news channel) with Andy Grey & Richard Keys, remember those two. To my amazement, guess who they've got in as a pundit tonight ...

... good ol' David Moyes!

Suarez back to his appalling behaviour again... Clearly has bit a defender again!!!... Will Liverpool sell him... Not a chance and we wonder why the world has gone mad !!!

He must think all the other players on the field are lamb chops!  :smiley-laughing: :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:

Disgraceful I doubt he will get his move now.

As said....bye bye!!

Quote from: Geoff on June 24, 2014, 07:27:47 PM
Disgraceful I doubt he will get his move now.

In a way that's good Geoff, but in another way it's not as I'd like to see the back of him.

Just when I was starting to give him the benefit of the doubt ... guess a leopard never changes his spots eh?

FIFA have to come down really hard on this thug, otherwise they'll look corrupt and immoral, sorry, did I say FIFA, corrupt, immoral in the same sentence ... surely not   :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

That was disgraceful and if found guilty he should be banned from the competition.

Quote from: DesertHound on June 24, 2014, 08:12:34 PM

Quote from: Geoff on June 24, 2014, 07:27:47 PM
Disgraceful I doubt he will get his move now.

In a way that's good Geoff, but in another way it's not as I'd like to see the back of him.

Just when I was starting to give him the benefit of the doubt ... guess a leopard never changes his spots eh?

FIFA have to come down really hard on this thug, otherwise they'll look corrupt and immoral, sorry, did I say FIFA, corrupt, immoral in the same sentence ... surely not   :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

Only time will tell if he does get banned, and he was calling the British Public for not liking him and giving him a chance, no doubt he has superb skills but he needs a part in the film industry as Dracula, maybe he is Dracula in disguise.

Quote from: port perran on June 24, 2014, 08:15:34 PM
That was disgraceful and if found guilty he should be banned from the competition.

The punditry out here, they had Chris Coleman and Alan Curbishly on, we're talking about a LIFETIME ban. I doubt he'll get that but I think he should get at least a 1 year ban from ALL football. Not sure what FIFA's remit on that is, but then they're hardly the moral standard setters either are they!

You have to say the standard of British pundits exluding hoddle is really poor..its all about passion and commitment which will get you so far but no real tactical appreciation or recognition of the higher skill levels of so many of the so called smaller nations..ian wright saying sturridge was unlucky today is a typical example...he is just not a geniune top class striker..at this level you have to take that one chance that may happen in the game..its what the very best do

Quote from: sparky on June 24, 2014, 08:54:06 PM
You have to say the standard of British pundits exluding hoddle is really poor..its all about passion and commitment which will get you so far but no real tactical appreciation or recognition of the higher skill levels of so many of the so called smaller nations..ian wright saying sturridge was unlucky today is a typical example...he is just not a geniune top class striker..at this level you have to take that one chance that may happen in the game..its what the very best do

Have to agree with you there Sparky. We have ex-England Intl. strikers on the tv out here and I can't help but think I 10-year old could say the same things as they do. I think of them as "time-fillers".

The World Cup punditry on BeIn Sports (Middle East provider), although headed up by Andy Gray and Richard Keys, who I actually like, despite their previous misdemeanors, is shockingly poor with the quality of their guests (on the most part).

For the premiership they have much better guests, but I guess they are all booked up for the World Cup. Do miss Lineker on the beeb though!

A bit like magazines reviewing new model releases, the pundits won't stick their necks out and say what they're probably thinking. In fact, the only pundit I know who does is Geoff Boycott commenting on the appalling cricket served up by England.
In the meantime, Suarez should be locked up in a zoo for the rest of his life and fed............pundits >:D

On a lighter note it seems we have 3 new sponsors for the England team  :goggleeyes:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/thumb_13471.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13471)

I've got a similar one ... not football related though ...

[smg id=13474 type=preview align=center caption="image"]

...Balotelli.!!...
good only for tabloids and gossip' rewiews..GO TO WORK!!! >:(

Quote from: newportnobby on June 24, 2014, 09:29:05 PM

. . . In the meantime, Suarez should be locked up in a zoo for the rest of his life and fed............pundits >:D

He's just making a meal of it :D

Great cross by Gaston Ramirez for the Uruguay goal though :thumbsup:

Just making a meal of it.....  :laughabovepost:

Some may remember our poor performance in Africa too.........


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/45/thumb_13482.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=13482)

Less than 4 minutes played between Argentina and Nigeria and there have been 2 goals :goggleeyes:

Darn - Was playing around with anyrail and lost track of time. Came in at 41 mins and see is 1-1 And 1-0 to Bosnia in the other game. Have no idea who's where in this group. Anyone wish to proffer a quick summary?

Right, think I've got it from looking at the table. Looks like it will be the Argies and Nigerians going through. Am I correcting in thinking that NO South or Central American team has been knocked out yet? Indeed any teams from the American continents? Still got USA tomorrow though.

Dan

FIFA decision on Suarez is out! Banned for 9 intl. matches and 4 months. Given that premiership doesn't start until the second half of August, it's not really four months is it?

FIFA's just confirmed that they are the joke that I always thought they were! Hmmm, might have to adopt a new sport!

Dan

That's hardly a punishment, is it?
I'd have thrown him in a bear pit - might have been interesting to see who won :hmmm:

Want four months off work? Go bite your colleague  :bounce:

I just read the latest ... apparently Suarez is moving to Borussia Munchonyourcentreback!   :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:

It still think the ban is ridiculously too lenient and yet again FIFA are sending out the message that it's not ok, but we're not going to do much about it.

If one of us bit a colleague at work we'd not only be sacked, we'd most probably be up before a judge. It's an absolutely shocking reaction (or perhaps not) from FIFA. As for the Uruguayan protestations, pathetic.

I don't buy any of the "oh but it's not fair on Liverpool" arguement either. If a club buys a player and he gets banned for violent misconduct then tough luck. A company does not get paid by the police / government / public if one of their employees is jailed for breaking the law.

This just demonstrates to me that football truly has departed to another planet and has morphed into something that just insults the loyal fans. Absolutely pathetic.

A one year ban MINIMUM in my book!

Dan

Quote from: DesertHound on June 26, 2014, 04:39:51 PM
I just read the latest ... apparently Suarez is moving to Borussia Munchonyourcentreback!   :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:

Nope - He's considering joining Bite-on and Hove Albion but what he really wants is to join a feeder club  :laugh3:

This might be a bit risqué for this site, but I thought it funny and is relevant to the subject.

A man went into a brothel, gave the girl £200 and said "I want you to seriously embarrass and humiliate me".
She gave him an England football shirt, told him to put it on, then kicked him out into the street.

Hmmmm - are we all footied out?
Things have gone very quiet, but at least we are into the last 8 now, none of whom have been particularly impressive :-\
I have to say I am looking forward to the Brazil v Columbia game (and hope Columbia win).
There - that's should kick things off again :D

I enjoyed the Belgium v USA game last night and would actually like the Belgians to go further.

Absolutely gutted Germany MkII, sorry, I mean USA went out last night. What a cracking game they put up. I really don't know who I'm going to support now ...

Bring on the quarters  :thumbsup:

What I like about this World Cup is that there is no dominant team at the moment. I think that the USA have been terrific :thumbsup:, their commitment and organisation have put many other countries to shame. Wonder how long it will be before there is a Klinsmann for England manager campaign?

Interesting that some of the stars have been players that have failed to shine in the Premier League (or even the Championship).

I think, in general, the losing sides have put so much energy, commitment and pride into their performances with some notable exceptions - England, Spain and Italy to name but three. The USA ran themselves into the ground last night but at least they can say "We tried"

Quote from: newportnobby on July 02, 2014, 08:44:35 PM
I think, in general, the losing sides have put so much energy, commitment and pride into their performances with some notable exceptions - England, Spain and Italy to name but three. The USA ran themselves into the ground last night but at least they can say "We tried"

Here, Here.

And no games tonight so........ I've been forced to do some work on the railway.
What a hard life !

I'm no fan of soccer but this made me chuckle - other matches available.

http://youtu.be/wh0909_-Q60 (http://youtu.be/wh0909_-Q60)

Quote from: newportnobby on July 02, 2014, 08:44:35 PM
I think, in general, the losing sides have put so much energy, commitment and pride into their performances with some notable exceptions - England, Spain and Italy to name but three. The USA ran themselves into the ground last night but at least they can say "We tried"

I agree. The Americans really went for it. As did the Aussies, too, IMO.

....au revoir Les Bleus...

Rien ne va plus. Bonjour tristesse. Courage mes enfants. Je suis desole.

Hang on it's just a game of footy. Nobody dead , the dogs bark and the
caravan moves on!

 ICE3 1 : Thalys 0

1940 all over again.

PS to our younger members that was not a World Cup fixture.

I hope our lot are watching this Brazil v Colombia game.
Full blooded, cracking pace, rumbustious tackles but players just get up and get on with it.
Flair, pace, emotion, skill, by the barrowload.
And.........No player gone off yet with a broken little toe nail !!!! (or a meta tarsel).

Quote from: port perran on July 04, 2014, 09:56:12 PM
I hope our lot are watching this Brazil v Colombia game.
Full blooded, cracking pace, rumbustious tackles but players just get up and get on with it.
Flair, pace, emotion, skill, by the barrowload.
And.........No player gone off yet with a broken little toe nail !!!! (or a meta tarsel).

Terrible performance by the ref and his assistants though, not even a subtle homer  :veryangry: bet none of them are taking their holidays in Columbia!

Hmmm - Brazilians hardly looking like World Cup winning candidates are they?

The second half was basically fouls interrupted by sporadic bursts of football ::)
Wonder how Brazil will get on without 2 of their best players?

Won't comment on the Argentina v Belgium match in case someone hasn't seen it yet :zippedmouth:

Incredible headlines  (https://twitter.com/Andysaro/status/485438584472997888/photo/1) from Columbian newspaper Hoy concerning the Spanish referee  :o

Probably best not to translate it  :worried:

Currently "The Flying Dutchman" is at it again! I think if he brushed up against a daisy he'd fall over.

Also, is it just me or do others think he walks funny - like he needs to get to the bathroom for a number 2!!!

Anybody else watching Brazil vs Germany by any chance? We're witnessing history here .... poor Brazilians. I'm embarrassed for them.

Quote from: DesertHound on July 08, 2014, 10:06:38 PM
Anybody else watching Brazil vs Germany by any chance? We're witnessing history here .... poor Brazilians. I'm embarrassed for them.

I think Brazil could win 6-5. Hic!  ???

Would love to see them do it. That German keeper Neuer's a bit smarmy isn't he?

Smarmy he may be but made a couple of good saves in the first 10 minutes of the second half.

7-6 anyone? I don't like those Germans  :goggleeyes:

I give up. I reckon the Germans will just sneak this one now  :worried:

Well I never expected that...

Brazil 1 - 7 Germany!!! Never seen a score line like that in a World Cup semi final before :smackedface:

Brazil have been running on a certain degree of luck - and home support - throughout the cup. Well, their luck ran out tonight, as well as facing a ruthlessly efficient Germany. And that final German goal was something rather special.

The most damning moment? When the Brazil fans were 'ole'ing' each German pass and (rightfully) applauding the final German goal.

P.S. More misery for Brazil - Klose has overhauled Ronaldo's World Cup goal scoring record in this match.

..one goal every six minutes....THAT'S  INCREDIBLE! :confused1:

Glad I am not a Brazil fan but they did better than we did!!

Not realyl sure if it was a superb German performance or an abysimal Brazillian one to be honest, possibly a bit of each because I think Brazil helped Germany look good with appauling lack of defending at times.

Best wishes
Simon

Quote from: marco neri on July 08, 2014, 11:18:13 PM

..one goal every six minutes....THAT'S  INCREDIBLE! :confused1:

It was 4 goals in 6 minutes at one point in the first half!!!

Simon

Wonder what Odds you would have got from a Bookies on that scoreline - a Million to 1?

Quote from: marco neri on July 08, 2014, 11:18:13 PM

..one goal every six minutes....THAT'S  INCREDIBLE! :confused1:

It was actually 1 goal every 12.857142857142857142857142857143 minutes. Roughly
Or every 11.25 minutes if you include the Brazilian goal  :(

Quote from: Tdm on July 08, 2014, 11:23:51 PM
Wonder what Odds you would have got from a Bookies on that scoreline - a Million to 1?

Someone at work placed 30 on Germany scoring 4 goals or more at 28/1. They won 840.

Brazil humiliation virals (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2014/article-2685286/Brazil-humiliation-virals-Angela-Merkel-Christ-Redeemer-Thomas-Muller-shoots-Brazuca-not-Incredible-Hulk.html)

A handy side effect is that the Germans are late down to the pool this morning...

The Dutch might be late down tomorrow... 8)

Well from my viewpoint here in Aus, have tipped Netherlands in our local tipping comp, so I'd like to see them win and have European final.

IMO it needed to happen. The Brazilians were far too smug in thinking (a) they were good enough (b) they're the home nation so will win and (c) completely underestimating the opposition. Maybe now they'll not base a team around 2 players ::)
You can use whatever words you like - destruction, annihilation, humiliation etc but I did feel some sympathy for their fans who, like the team, believed they were invincible but had the excellent good grace to applaud the German team in appreciation of good football.
I doubt we'll see the likes of that scoreline between two 'top' teams in the rest of my lifetime :no:

Agreed. Certainly different!

They had it coming as Mick said, not a good side or even good individual performances.  Germany have been a team throughout the tournament which makes them a real danger.  Argentina are all about Messi and the Dutch are all about Roben diving when he can.
Germany are the most complete side but I do have concerns re their center backs mobility.
Tonight will probably be about Messi trying to avoid Vlaar and Robben & Kuyt getting into the box and falling over!

Yup, the Flying Dutchman will be at it again tonight I'm sure - absolutely pathetic.

Ah well, there goes me hopes of an all-European final! I always reckon it weird when it comes down to penalties.... makes me think what was all that stuff over the last couple of hours for? Could have just done it like that to begin with and got it over and done with! Still, there's always the viewpoint that it means it was an interesting and close match when it all boils down to that.

A fair result, in my eyes, between 2 teams more determined not to lose than to win :hmmm:
I think the Argentine defence probably played their best game in this tournament last night and the Dutch just didn't really have the key to unlock it.

Quote from: newportnobby on July 10, 2014, 10:27:16 AM
A fair result, in my eyes, between 2 teams more determined not to lose than to win :hmmm:
I think the Argentine defence probably played their best game in this tournament last night and the Dutch just didn't really have the key to unlock it.

I think you hit the nail right on the head with your comments.
Only hope the Final on Sunday is something worth watching.

Won't know what to do with myself next week with no more football, will have to do some more work on my layout, or wash the car, or spend more time at the Pool, and read in bed at night rather than watch a late Match!

Quote from: Bealman on July 10, 2014, 02:09:24 AM
Ah well, there goes me hopes of an all-European final! I always reckon it weird when it comes down to penalties.... makes me think what was all that stuff over the last couple of hours for? Could have just done it like that to begin with and got it over and done with! Still, there's always the viewpoint that it means it was an interesting and close match when it all boils down to that.

Ah, I get your sentiments completely Mr Bealman - just imagine, if we cut to the chase and just had penalties we could have the whole World Cup in an afternoon!

As for late matches Tdm - last night's finished at 3am for me! I was itching for anyone to score ... given that I had to be up at 6.40am.

It was even worse during the group stages, with games going on until 4am!

Looking fwd to Sunday though! Don't forget the third place play-off on Saturday!

Dan

Quote from: Tdm on July 10, 2014, 11:13:30 AM


Won't know what to do with myself next week with no more football, will have to do some more work on my layout, or wash the car, or spend more time at the Pool, and read in bed at night rather than watch a late Match!

Still too much going on sport-wise - Test Match series v India and the Tour de France.
Jeez, those cyclists are such athletes! Let's just hope there's no substance abuse this year ::)
Shame the good old days of taking a portable TV into the garden and watching out there have gone - not everything digital is for the better :no:

With Argentina in the final I wonder if they have booked the hand of god to turn up, no doubt they will be outclassed by the Germans.

Quote from: newportnobby on July 10, 2014, 02:34:22 PM

Quote from: Tdm on July 10, 2014, 11:13:30 AM


Won't know what to do with myself next week with no more football, will have to do some more work on my layout, or wash the car, or spend more time at the Pool, and read in bed at night rather than watch a late Match!

Still too much going on sport-wise - Test Match series v India and the Tour de France.
Jeez, those cyclists are such athletes! Let's just hope there's no substance abuse this year ::)
Shame the good old days of taking a portable TV into the garden and watching out there have gone - not everything digital is for the better :no:

Can't you take the receiver out there too? Cannot see why it wouldn't work. You might just need to get an extension cable, but then you need that for the tv anyway. Might also need an extension cable if you have cable tv or satellite.

Quote from: DesertHound on July 10, 2014, 02:50:05 PM

Quote from: newportnobby on July 10, 2014, 02:34:22 PM

Quote from: Tdm on July 10, 2014, 11:13:30 AM


Won't know what to do with myself next week with no more football, will have to do some more work on my layout, or wash the car, or spend more time at the Pool, and read in bed at night rather than watch a late Match!

Still too much going on sport-wise - Test Match series v India and the Tour de France.
Jeez, those cyclists are such athletes! Let's just hope there's no substance abuse this year ::)
Shame the good old days of taking a portable TV into the garden and watching out there have gone - not everything digital is for the better :no:

Can't you take the receiver out there too? Cannot see why it wouldn't work. You might just need to get an extension cable, but then you need that for the tv anyway. Might also need an extension cable if you have cable tv or satellite.

Nice idea but waaayy to much hassle, what with set top boxes and all that malarkey :no:
It's a bit like saying DCC only requires 2 wires :laugh:

Quote from: newportnobby on July 10, 2014, 02:34:22 PM
Jeez, those cyclists are such athletes! Let's just hope there's no substance abuse this year ::)

Hey, they were in Yorkshire ... you just know they would have been main-lining curd tart & Wensleydale ...

So....who is going to win the final this evening ??
My money (well actually not literally 'cos I'm not a betting man) is on Germany.
And...........if it doesn't rain , a thrilling and unexpected end to the Test Match as well !

I'll be up 5am Oz time to find out....

I'd put my whole Graham Farish collection on the block that it will be Germany who win ....

... for Argentina to win? Hmmmm .... I'll offer a split gear.

Any takers?

I'd like to think tonight's game will be tighter than most folks think :hmmm:
Argentina have really made huge strides defence-wise and can be pretty quick on the break. Trouble is, they are still hugely reliant on Messi either doing the job goal wise or attracting all the attention which could release other players. My feeling is Germany will triumph as they are just more of a team rather than a collection of individuals who happen to wear the same colour strip.

As for the 'Bronze' medal play off last night, it was so obvious Brazil learned nothing from the defeat by the Germans, as well as the 'Flying Dutchman' being in action several times but at least he gained them a penalty (which wasn't one) which was the aim of his antics ::)

Quote from: port perran on July 13, 2014, 08:56:52 AM
So....who is going to win the final this evening ??

We were visiting my parents yesterday and Mum asked who I thought would win too?
Like I said, we won our wars against both of them, who cares who wins the footie match   ;)

We will, of course, be watching tonight and given, if it hadn't been for the Argentinian invasion, I would never had the opportunity to enjoy the beauty of the Falkland Islands (I went after the war obviously, the RAF didn't pay me enough to actually fight in it!) I am hoping for a moment of magic from Messi to win the game.

Quote from: newportnobby on July 13, 2014, 10:08:46 AM


As for the 'Bronze' medal play off last night, it was so obvious Brazil learned nothing from the defeat by the Germans, as well as the 'Flying Dutchman' being in action several times but at least he gained them a penalty (which wasn't one) which was the aim of his antics ::)

There was a real 'Flying Dutchman' when Van Persie was sent into orbit, felt sorry the Brazilian got a yellow card. At least Roben got one in this game.

I'll probably watch the match, thank goodness its the last one. I hope both teams lose.

Dodger

Sooo........we have a winner, and I reckon most would agree that Germany were worthy winners, too. Argentina couldn't take the chances they created, and the winning goal deep in extra time was a stunner.
Now I can leave footie alone for another 4 years and will be concentrating on the spectacle that is the Tour de France and the upcoming 2nd Test v India :)

I'd go along with that. Well done Germany. Worthy winners overall I feel.

Certainly the best team won the tournament. I think Argentina gave them a run for their money, certainly more than most we're expecting.

Now, onto the question, the best World Cup ever? Certainly the best in recent times IMHO!

Dan

Quote from: DesertHound on July 14, 2014, 10:14:22 AM
Now, onto the question, the best World Cup ever?
Dan

Any of them that are finished  >:D  :D

All sorts of statistics quoted about number of goals etc but I'd say it was 'one of the best' I have seen for donkeys years :claphappy:
Not sure it's done Brazil any favours financially but that's getting into a political area and das ist verboten :zippedmouth: :whistle:

I really enjoyed this World Cup..looking forward to Euros...Cricket to keep me happy until the Autumn.....still the so called expert pundits talk about the Germany high line defence as being a weakness and Nauer the goalie is due a mistake....but neither happened because they are simply better players than the home nations are producing and the pundits continue to demonstrate how tactically inept they all are.....

Quote from: scotsoft on July 14, 2014, 10:43:57 AM

Quote from: DesertHound on July 14, 2014, 10:14:22 AM
Now, onto the question, the best World Cup ever?
Dan

Any of them that are finished  >:D  :D

Have to agree with you there. Roll on next years World Cup (Rugby).

Dodger

European Championship qualification games next.  Scotland's first game should be easy enough - Germany, in Dortmund  :doh:

You'll cruise through that Lawrence - The Germans have peaked to early... :laugh3:

We'll give the Jairmans a good thrashing, It'll be an ideal warmup for the game against Gibraltar.

Do you think that Scotland will be entering the World Cup at some point in the future? It seems such a long time since they did.  :P

As to whether Scotland enter the World Cup, I guess it depends upon their group opponents. I personally cannot see it happening unless a good crop of young players come through.

I'm not sure why Scotland don't cut it at the top level. They've got established leagues and I would imagine a far higher number of local players in their leagues than "Engerrrland". Perhaps it's something to do with there only ever being two dominant teams, I don't know. Then again, that could be said about Spain.

So, now that the WC is over - can we start a Premiership thread Mods?

Dan

Quote from: DesertHound on July 14, 2014, 05:11:56 PM

So, now that the WC is over - can we start a Premiership thread Mods?

Dan

Are there many n gauge layouts in the Premiership?

cheers John.

About as many as there are in the World Cup John  :claphappy:

Fair enough - I guess it is an n gauge forum after all. Just that it was fun to have somewhere to discuss something else with the chaps. Guess we've got to remain focused, otherwise we could have a forum for just about anything ... tiddlywinks anyone?

Dan

A league 1 forum would be better as far as I'm concerned. I think that would be the issue with a football section, 92+ teams to accommodate (plus Scotland I suppose) and their followers on here. Saying that I bet some of the players out of all those clubs have a layout in the loft  :uneasy:

Quote from: Trainfish on July 14, 2014, 04:40:30 PM
Do you think that Scotland will be entering the World Cup at some point in the future? It seems such a long time since they did.  :P

Not likely mate  :worried:

Scottish league football is a joke, ridiculous small leagues and spineless leadership.  Please don't get me started as I could bang on about what is wrong with the game here for days  :scowl:

I suppose I can hold on to the fact that after England won in '66 Scotland beat them in their first competitive game in '67  :D

It's not ALL bad, you've actually beaten England 4 times since 1966. England have won 15 times (http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/head_to_head.sd?team_id=909&team2_id=2264) I think, I lost count  :D

You get another chance in November too.

Quote from: scotsoft on July 14, 2014, 06:04:27 PM

Quote from: DesertHound on July 14, 2014, 05:11:56 PM

So, now that the WC is over - can we start a Premiership thread Mods?

Dan

Are there many n gauge layouts in the Premiership?

cheers John.

With a little imagination there could be a layout for each club...

- Finsbury Park depot with a healthy allocation of A1Pacifics or even new Farish Deltics: Arsenal 
:A1Tornado:

- West Brompton Station on the West London Line, a perfect location for cross regional freights and also the new London Overground: Chelsea
:NGFWagonTour:

- Selhurst depot, a perfect location for the forum's Network SouthEast fans to model: Crystal Palace 
:Class414:

- The Hawthorns Station which combines both main line trains as well as trams: West Brom 
:Class89:

- A layout based on the Canada Dock Branch in Liverpool including Walton and Anfield Station: covers both Liverpool and Everton!!! 
:Carriage:

I am sure there could be a similar layout idea for every premier league club... I for one would hate to paint and affix several thousand spectators into a scale model of the applicable stadium though :headbutt:. Although I seem to remember a thread on the forum where someone wanted to do this!

Great idea Mike!  :thumbsup:

Good imagination, there, Mike.... er....  :uneasy: ;)

Quote from: DesertHound on July 14, 2014, 05:11:56 PM

So, now that the WC is over - can we start a Premiership thread Mods?

Dan

Not sure you would like that as I will be editing/deleting any posts that are not favourable to my team  >:D

Only joking  :D

Quote from: Chetcombe on July 15, 2014, 02:40:54 AM

Quote from: scotsoft on July 14, 2014, 06:04:27 PM

Quote from: DesertHound on July 14, 2014, 05:11:56 PM

So, now that the WC is over - can we start a Premiership thread Mods?

Dan

Are there many n gauge layouts in the Premiership?

cheers John.

With a little imagination there could be a layout for each club...

- Finsbury Park depot with a healthy allocation of A1Pacifics or even new Farish Deltics: Arsenal 
:A1Tornado:

- West Brompton Station on the West London Line, a perfect location for cross regional freights and also the new London Overground: Chelsea
:NGFWagonTour:

- Selhurst depot, a perfect location for the forum's Network SouthEast fans to model: Crystal Palace 
:Class414:

- The Hawthorns Station which combines both main line trains as well as trams: West Brom 
:Class89:

- A layout based on the Canada Dock Branch in Liverpool including Walton and Anfield Station: covers both Liverpool and Everton!!! 
:Carriage:

I am sure there could be a similar layout idea for every premier league club... I for one would hate to paint and affix several thousand spectators into a scale model of the applicable stadium though :headbutt:. Although I seem to remember a thread on the forum where someone wanted to do this!

Also a layout based on Northam with it's mixture of the SWT traincare depot, freight trains to the docks, Voyagers and the usual SWT/FGW/Southern trains - and, of course, Saint Mary's stadium right by the tracks :)

Quote from: Pengi on July 15, 2014, 07:34:33 AM

Not sure you would like that as I will be editing/deleting any posts that are not favourable to my team  >:D

Only joking  :D

No she is not  :)

Quote from: Pengi on July 15, 2014, 07:34:33 AM

Quote from: DesertHound on July 14, 2014, 05:11:56 PM

So, now that the WC is over - can we start a Premiership thread Mods?

Dan

Not sure you would like that as I will be editing/deleting any posts that are not favourable to my team  >:D

Only joking  :D

I think the fairest way is for me to delete the lot and lock the thread, problem solved and no more boring football on here.   ::)   ;)

Quote from: Caz on July 15, 2014, 10:08:38 AM
I think the fairest way is for me to delete the lot and lock the thread, problem solved and no more boring football on here.   ::)   ;)

:claphappy: :claphappy: :claphappy:yipppeeeeeeeeeeeeee :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Quote from: jonclox on July 15, 2014, 10:37:47 AM

Quote from: Caz on July 15, 2014, 10:08:38 AM
I think the fairest way is for me to delete the lot and lock the thread, problem solved and no more boring football on here.   ::)   ;)

:claphappy: :claphappy: :claphappy:yipppeeeeeeeeeeeeee :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

What he said  :D

Quote from: scotsoft on July 15, 2014, 10:39:36 AM

Quote from: jonclox on July 15, 2014, 10:37:47 AM

Quote from: Caz on July 15, 2014, 10:08:38 AM
I think the fairest way is for me to delete the lot and lock the thread, problem solved and no more boring football on here.   ::)   ;)

:claphappy: :claphappy: :claphappy:yipppeeeeeeeeeeeeee :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

What he said  :D

Yeah that :thumbsup:


Paul

If you don't like football, then don't read this topic :D

Russia next  ;)

 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

And I'll change me avatar slogan when the new season kicks off....  :D

Thought this place would be a haven away from the dreaded football, rugby, cricket etc, I get it rammed down my throat on TV, the radio, the papers, nearly every bar I go into and now it is filling up this forum.  :'(

I think it should be banned the same as religion and politics, let's stick to what this forum is all about, railways and N gauge modelling, if you want to chat about football then go on one of the many sport forums out there but leave us in peace on here.   :(

Rant over.

Surely this is why it's in the 'General Discussion' section though along with a cycling thread, an AGA thread, a few car threads etc etc. I'm not interested in any of those but I don't mind them being there.

If there was a thread about sewing would that be a thread thread?   :D

BTW why are political and religious topics banned on this forum ?

These are part of life like Aga cookers, old Stags and Scottish football.
I can't see them causing more of a punch up than some topics which have
been closed, and they were about toy trains.

PS My religion is money!

I can fully understand the non-interest in football by a lot of members and I wouldn't want football spilling over to the main board, however, I'm with Trainfish and Agrippa on this one - it's in the General Discussion forum and there's no need to read it if it doesn't interest said member.

I haven't an interest in Agas and cars, but I have no objection to it. I think as long as these threads stay in the general section, I think they are fine. Personally I don't want to chat about footie with a bunch of lager louts, but I quite enjoy the banter we have on here, especially when someone puts a train twist on it, like Mike did a few posts up.

That said, I'm still quite new around here so I'll defer to the more senior members amongst us.

Dan

Quote from: Caz on July 15, 2014, 01:21:50 PM
Thought this place would be a haven away from the dreaded football, rugby, cricket etc, I get it rammed down my throat on TV, the radio, the papers, nearly every bar I go into and now it is filling up this forum.  :'(

I think it should be banned the same as religion and politics, let's stick to what this forum is all about, railways and N gauge modelling, if you want to chat about football then go on one of the many sport forums out there but leave us in peace on here.   :(

Rant over.

Whoa! :stop:
Are you suggesting we remove the entire General Discussion board ??? :o
You know this thread is about the World Cup footie so don't read it. If you want to read about railways and N gauge modelling there's much for you, but some of us like to take a break now and then and discuss things outside that particular box.
Whatever next?  ::)

Rant over :P

Today is the 1st day Ive looked at this thread. Whilst the W cup was in progress I purposely stayed clear and tried not to provoke any agro.
My only comments today have been made light heartedly but show just how easy it is to upset some people.
This is after all the General Discussion board and within sensible limits most things are welcomed.
Time I shut up

People shouldn't get upset about World Cup banter, if they do they should get a life.
There are more important things to get riled up about. To me F1 is pretty boring, but
if it's a topic in the general section I'm not bothered. So long as no one mentions
darts! If they were playing the World Cup final of darts , or whatever it's called
I'd sooner stick my head in a gas oven than watch it!

Here endeth the lesson... sorry , no religion here!

Quote from: Agrippa on July 15, 2014, 05:00:49 PM
I'd sooner stick my head in a gas oven than watch it!

Please be careful doing this. If the gas is turned on and there's a naked flame nearby you could burn yourself. Not recommended!

We've got an electric oven for this reason  :worried:

I could always put my napper in an Aga. But I don't have the space in the kitchen for
one, never mind the cash!

In a way football got me interested in trains.

Loved football as a kid (still do) and was interested in where the countries were.

Then got interested in the clubs, for example.. where Borussia Moenchengladbach was? My dad who had travelled a lot answered my questions and later, he, as a travel writer took me with him on some of his travels where I fell in love with European Railways.

Great memories!

Am a Pompey fan and know there's a few Pompey related layouts on here.

Possibly a stadium built in N gauge when we are back in the premiership. You've got 3 years.

Note to Pengi...NO JOKES. I'm not a moderator but I'll go back at you!! :D

Cheers weave  :beers:

I have always been interested in flags, team kits, horse racing silks, etc and this is probably why I like the modern day train liveries too  :)

So that is my link between the World Cup and trains :D

I love all sports so a discussion on something other than why I can`t get my NCE EB1 breakers to work properly is theraputic !!! I may start a thread on pub games... "shove a penny" now that is a game full of thrills and spills and tactical nouse !!!  :P

 :confused1:Shove a penny !
In my day it was Shove Ha'penny.

Now whose old enough to know what a Ha'penny is ?? ???

A ha'penny is 2 farthings  :(

Quote from: port perran on July 15, 2014, 08:07:33 PM
:confused1:Shove a penny !
In my day it was Shove Ha'penny.

Now whose old enough to know what a Ha'penny is ?? ???

Your a bit like me then. My family couldn't afford to play shove penny so we had to make do with shove ha`penny unless it was avery bad week then we had to make do with shove farthing
T`was a hard life at times  :'(

Good game though.
Now....on pub games - who remembers Bar Billiards and Bar skittles ?? :beers:

Quote from: ColinH on July 15, 2014, 09:00:05 PM
A ha'penny is 2 farthings  :(

And 12 farthings = 1 Threepenny Bit :D
Don't get me started on florins, tanners, crowns (or half thereof) and guineas ;)

And just for the record I am only interested in footie every 4 years when the World Cup comes around. Other than that (and watching Barcelona games) I hate it :thumbsdown:

Quote from: port perran on July 15, 2014, 09:14:59 PM
Good game though.
Now....on pub games - who remembers Bar Billiards and Bar skittles ?? :beers:

I used to play in a pub league at Table Football (singles/doubles) - the proper Lilliput tables without glass.
Strict rules as to which players you could score with :thumbsup:

Double shuffle and shoot ??

Quote from: port perran on July 15, 2014, 09:20:24 PM
Double shuffle and shoot ??

That, a quick pass from the wing to the centre forward and shoot, or a faked pass from the winger but the winger shoots.
Absolutely no scoring allowed with the centre row of players :no:

I Like Caz, honest I do  :D and I realise that as a mod she has to read all the threads, but I do wish that she, and the others of the anti-footie brigade, would just butt out of this thread altogether.  If you don't like something, why constantly come on and moan about it, just don't read the thread.
I don't like all this crappy British Railways stuff I find on here but I don't hijack all the threads about it, constantly moaning about its mere existence, I'm sure I would receive torrents of abuse if I did.
The existence of this thread, in the rightful forum, will have absolutely no effect on the lives of those members who don't like footie, so please leave us to it.
Right I'm off to hijack a GWR thread to say how LMS is better and vice versa!  :veryangry: