The angry thread

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Snowwolflair

The descriptions are correct and they are wrong.  The capacity on the packaging is the number of memory cells, but to make them work about 10% of the memory is used to control the card to make it work with your computer.  So they cannot be done as incorrectly described, but the should state the Memory data storage capacity which they avoid doing.

emjaybee

Quote from: Newportnobby on July 14, 2024, 11:09:16 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on July 14, 2024, 10:39:35 PMYou will always find Mick that storage devices never have the full 512, (or whatever), something do with ..... I don't know ..... but they never do have full capacity.  :no:

I'm aware of that but they should be clearly marked 'nominal', or 'this product guaranteed will fall short of its description' or some such like ;D

Fer...
...it's like dealing with my parents.

Yes, the capacity of the device is as listed. Once you format it for whatever you need it for it then has a "file system" for want of a better description which, in itself, takes up a bit of room.

 :doh:

It's like the "it hasn't got a key, how do I open the door?" all over again!

 :smiley-laughing:
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...sometimes the dog bites you!

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emjaybee

Quote from: Snowwolflair on July 14, 2024, 11:20:23 PMThe descriptions are correct and they are wrong.  The capacity on the packaging is the number of memory cells, but to make them work about 10% of the memory is used to control the card to make it work with your computer.  So they cannot be done as incorrectly described, but the should state the Memory data storage capacity which they avoid doing.

Too many big words David, just remember...
Brookline build thread:

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=50207.msg652736#msg652736

Sometimes you bite the dog...

...sometimes the dog bites you!

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I can explain it to you...

...but I can't understand it for you.

Newportnobby

Quote from: Snowwolflair on July 14, 2024, 11:20:23 PMThe descriptions are correct and they are wrong.  The capacity on the packaging is the number of memory cells, but to make them work about 10% of the memory is used to control the card to make it work with your computer.  So they cannot be done as incorrectly described, but the should state the Memory data storage capacity which they avoid doing.

Although my post was somewhat tongue firmly in cheek, thank you for explaining that as I was unaware of it (the 10% bit) and for at least agreeing with me about wrong descriptions of the products. Of course, nothing will change :no:

PaulCheffus

Hi

It also depends what unit they use to describe the capacity. Sometimes they are described as 1000 bytes per Kilobyte for example but when you use it, it will actually be 1024 bytes per Kilobyte which is the true size of a Kilobyte.

Before anyone mentions they are usually in Gigabytes these days I've done the above for simplicity.

Cheers

Paul
Procrastination - The Thief of Time.

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https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=54708.msg724969#msg724969

Yet_Another

Interestingly, the ISO definition of kilo is 1000, so 1000 bytes in a kilobyte. However, a kibibyte is 1024 bytes. Generally, if you read the tiny text on the back of the packaging, it has a load of waffle to explain away their disingenuous mendacity that refers to both kibi- and kilobytes (or, indeed, gibi- and gigabytes).

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/kibibyte#

I think you can probably blame the UN for this marketing opportunity.
Tony

'...things are not done by those who sit down to count the cost of every thought and act.' - Sir Daniel Gooch of IKB


martyn

Quote from: Newportnobby on July 15, 2024, 11:39:45 AMHells teeth!!
What have I started? :doh:  ;D

Dunno, but it's byting you back....

Martyn

Bealman

It all started with binary, Mick. You can blame computers. 0 or 1, yes or no, true or false, black or white  :D
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

Snowwolflair

Quote from: emjaybee on July 14, 2024, 11:57:06 PM
Quote from: Snowwolflair on July 14, 2024, 11:20:23 PMThe descriptions are correct and they are wrong.  The capacity on the packaging is the number of memory cells, but to make them work about 10% of the memory is used to control the card to make it work with your computer.  So they cannot be done as incorrectly described, but the should state the Memory data storage capacity which they avoid doing.

Too many big words David, just remember...
To bang the stones together  :smiley-laughing:

stevewalker

Quote from: martyn on July 15, 2024, 11:55:30 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on July 15, 2024, 11:39:45 AMHells teeth!!
What have I started? :doh:  ;D

Dunno, but it's byting you back....

Martyn

No, just a nybble (4 bits/half a byte for those that don't know).

Bealman

#8426
Just read a BBC thing on the net (where else) about sharks. They are misaligned creatures, according to the article.

Try telling that to the family of the young Aussie surfer who had his leg bitten off by one the other week.

Just sayin', like.  :D

Edit: Just saw on the news he is released from hospital. He said, "Oh, something's missing!"

Good on ya, mate. He intends to surf again.
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

Yet_Another

Yes, but the shark realised its mistake and gave it back. Fair play.
Tony

'...things are not done by those who sit down to count the cost of every thought and act.' - Sir Daniel Gooch of IKB

Trainfish

I was legless on Saturday too but I seem to be able to walk a lot better today  :thumbsup:
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acook

Shirley you don't mean a Shark is misaligned, how would it swim? In a circle?
Maligned I can understand. :)

Upthread Rock Salmon is neither rock or salmon, it's a dogfish or small (possibly misaligned) shark.

Alan


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