Bachman Farish Winter 2022 Releases

[NGS-PO]

just glad that I bought too many when they were affordable, ie years ago 

£180 for a DCC ready Goyle means my wallet will remain untroubled, sadly.

Unless you buy direct from Bachman, that shouldn't be the price you pay.

Retailer price should be around £153 with 15% reduction applied.

Best

Scott.

[D9020 Nimbus]

The weakest list of Farish releases for over a year. And why so many obscure liveries? The blue and green 31s sold out far faster than all of the later liveries last time despite having previously been issued, so what do we get? More sector liveries just like those that hung around on the shelves last time, and more obscure liveries for the 20s. My expectations were modest — a sound upgrade for the 24s — but Bachmann have disappointed yet again.

Even the NG locos are strange choices. The Ffestiniog "ladies", but not in the form that they run on the  Ffestiniog. Just a vague promise that they may appear "if the demand is there".

[Hailstone]

once again, I am totally underwhelmed with Farish's latest announcements - no transition coaching stock (again awaiting maroon Thompsons) no steam loco, not even a sound ready retread! I wonder if they are listening to their customers at all. well at least there is Dapol, Rapido, Revolution, Sonic and possibly Union Mills to empty my wallet!

Regards,

Alex   

[Bob G]

In 2002, when Graham Farish was no more, and Bachmann Farish had yet to produce anything at all, Farish Poole prices went through the roof on the secondhand market.
I think we are seeing this again, in 2022, as Farish fails to deliver. But it does further endorse Farish's price point for coaches, at the end of the day.

Remember, folks. You might want a coach, but you don't need a coach (like your life does not depend upon it).

Bob

[NGS-PO]

Remember, folks. You might want a coach, but you don't need a coach (like your life does not depend upon it).

Bob

Of course, Bob.  But I think all of these comments are valid within the context of us all being aware model railways are not an essential for life.

That being the case, what is the point of selling locomotives if you don't sell the rolling stock to go with it.

Best

Scott.

[NGS-PO]

...as Farish fails to deliver. But it does further endorse Farish's price point for coaches, at the end of the day.

Bob

In what sense? That they are deliberately withholding supply to ensure second hand prices increase to a price point they can then sell a new batch at?

I have to say if anew batch of Mk1s were to arrive within the next 12 months, I've budgeted for the RRP to be around £45

Best

Scott.

[Bob G]

...as Farish fails to deliver. But it does further endorse Farish's price point for coaches, at the end of the day.

Bob

In what sense? That they are deliberately withholding supply to ensure second hand prices increase to a price point they can then sell a new batch at?

I have to say if anew batch of Mk1s were to arrive within the next 12 months, I've budgeted for the RRP to be around £45.

Best

Scott.

That is kind of what I was suggesting, perhaps a little tongue in cheek

[Bob G]

Remember, folks. You might want a coach, but you don't need a coach (like your life does not depend upon it).

Bob

Of course, Bob.  But I think all of these comments are valid within the context of us all being aware model railways are not an essential for life.

That being the case, what is the point of selling locomotives if you don't sell the rolling stock to go with it.

Best

Scott.

You are quite right. I am lucky to have a lot of stock, and a good job that allows me to splurge when I want to. I know others struggle with the buy it or miss out problems that you get with batch production too. N gauge is not like OO. It doesn't sit well in display cabinets. It needs to run with a train in a scenic setting. Perhaps Farish are applying the same logic of the OO Collectors market to N gauge?

Bob

[NGS-PO]

...as Farish fails to deliver. But it does further endorse Farish's price point for coaches, at the end of the day.

Bob

In what sense? That they are deliberately withholding supply to ensure second hand prices increase to a price point they can then sell a new batch at?

I have to say if anew batch of Mk1s were to arrive within the next 12 months, I've budgeted for the RRP to be around £45.

Best

Scott.

That is kind of what I was suggesting, perhaps a little tongue in cheek

I don't think you are necessarily wrong. 

Best

Scott.

[Dorsetmike]

Still no Southern 4-6-0, LMS, LNER and GWR all have more than 1 class of 4-6-0 RTR Southern only have 2 dated kits. Not much better for anything else Southern, two 4-4-0s, T9 and Schools out of over 15 classes, two tanks, M7 and Terrier.
I've heard a version of the catch 22 saying, "nobody models the SR because nobody manufactures SR stock: nobody makes SR stock because nobody models the SR.

[Bob G]

...as Farish fails to deliver. But it does further endorse Farish's price point for coaches, at the end of the day.

Bob

In what sense? That they are deliberately withholding supply to ensure second hand prices increase to a price point they can then sell a new batch at?

I have to say if anew batch of Mk1s were to arrive within the next 12 months, I've budgeted for the RRP to be around £45.

Best

Scott.

That is kind of what I was suggesting, perhaps a little tongue in cheek

I don't think you are necessarily wrong. 

Best

Scott.

But looking at the price of OO coaches (which I am buying for an OO 1970s south coast themed layout) they are retailing at over £50, making Dapol N scale coaches positively cheap in comparison. Thankfully I have enough OO for this layout (but insufficient space, while we have refugees in the house).

It is not just in N where I am saying to myself, "Good job I am not starting out in <this scale>" from scratch.

Bob

PS we managed to lose the Lima HO coach my wife foolishly bought for the 3 year old before he managed to carve tram tracks into our dining table. By "Lose" I mean "Lose in the bin forever!"

[NGS-PO]

To be clear, I'm not - and seldom am I - complaining about the price. My gripe is with availability.

For the quality of product from Farish and Revolution certainly, I feel we get good value for money.

Best

Scott.

[Browning 9mm]

just for my two pennyworth...
I doubt that I would consider starting modelling a layout, either in N or OO, at the prices and availability that seem the norm at this time.

when I started, too many years ago, I could easily afford / find / order locos and stock for a train, and afford to pay for them.

nowadays, it seems if I bought a loco, at £100 plus, I'd have a job to even find a couple of coaches, at much the same cost, to run behind it.

it's supposed to be a relaxing hobby, but as a starter, I would certainly not see it as such these days.

sorry.

[Browning 9mm]

my major concern is ...
where are new, young, modelers going to come from to refresh the hobby.

when 'I were a lad' I could afford, even on my pocket money, to buy the odd wagon etc, or save over a few weeks, for a carriage [I still refuse to call them coaches, those are operated by National express etc up and down the motorways].

how many youngsters looking to come into the hobby today can afford to ?

indeed, how many adults can afford to at today's prices ?

I feel that the manufacturers are doing them selves no favours by their pricing regimes, ok a quick profit, but are they driving away the people who as they grow older, get jobs, and have money for hobbies?

enough of my views, off to walk the dog, at least his biscuits don't cost as much as a freight wagon...

YET.

[Portpatrick]

Nothing for me here.  I was hoping for the next Std 5.  I have one on order with TMC for their weathering.