F1 changes

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Newportnobby

Quote from: dannyboy on December 09, 2021, 12:20:57 PM
Quote from: chrism on December 09, 2021, 07:33:27 AM
The final race is to be shown live on C4 on Sunday, after they struck a deal with Sky to share the broadcasting rights.

Haven't got timings for the broadcast times yet, my EPG hasn't updated, but the race start is supposed to be 13:00 GMT. Also, don't know if the highlights show, currently in the EPG at 17:25, will be rescheduled or simply cancelled.

Can anybody confirm the above please? Even the Ch4 site only shows the highlights programme at 1730hrs.  ::)

Addit: Just done a bit of digging and found this on the 'Observer' website -
The Formula One world championship showdown will be broadcast on free-to-air television after Channel 4 announced they will screen the season-ending Abu Dhabi Grand Prix live.

According to my EPG the Ch4 Build up prog starts at 12 noon, with the race starting at 13.00 and the prog finishing at 16.00

chrism

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Quote from: Newportnobby on December 09, 2021, 10:05:48 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 09, 2021, 12:20:57 PM
Quote from: chrism on December 09, 2021, 07:33:27 AM
The final race is to be shown live on C4 on Sunday, after they struck a deal with Sky to share the broadcasting rights.

Haven't got timings for the broadcast times yet, my EPG hasn't updated, but the race start is supposed to be 13:00 GMT. Also, don't know if the highlights show, currently in the EPG at 17:25, will be rescheduled or simply cancelled.

Can anybody confirm the above please? Even the Ch4 site only shows the highlights programme at 1730hrs.  ::)

Addit: Just done a bit of digging and found this on the 'Observer' website -
The Formula One world championship showdown will be broadcast on free-to-air television after Channel 4 announced they will screen the season-ending Abu Dhabi Grand Prix live.

According to my EPG the Ch4 Build up prog starts at 12 noon, with the race starting at 13.00 and the prog finishing at 16.00

Yep, mine's updated too - and my PVR has been clever enough to spot it, add timers and delete the previous timers I'd set for the programmes (*) that have been replaced.

(*) loosely termed since two of them were, aargh, The Simpsons.


For those who can't watch it live or record it, the highlights show is still listed as being 17:30-19:00.

dannyboy

Quote from: chrism on December 10, 2021, 06:50:06 AM

Yep, mine's updated too - and my PVR has been clever enough to spot it


And mine  :). And, Louisa being Louisa, I will be able to watch as it is broadcast and then go back to the recording to view again any 'accidents' ................  ;)
David.
I used to be indecisive - now I'm not - I don't think.
If a friend seems distant, catch up with them.

Mr Sprue

Abu Dhabi Q3 today......


Newportnobby

Probably stating the obvious but it is absolutely not in Hamilton's interests to go off the track with or without Verstappen. Therefore any pressure steward wise is likely to be focused on Red Bull. Bottas is too far back to do anything to help but Perez in 4th on the grid might be. Norris might have the best seat in the house! (Yeah - I know he drives a McLaren and not a Seat ::))
Roll on 1pm tomorrow :bounce:

Mr Sprue

Yes can't wait to see what happens at the first corner. :) If Lando gets a good start being the feisty young driver he is, he will for sure capitalise on any opportunities handed out if the other two start exchanging paintwork!

thebrighton

What a total farce, F1 completely ruined by the FIA and Masi.

Paul J

#82
F1 will be done for once ICE cars are phased out anyway.

It's all about the £/$/Dirhams.

bridgiesimon

Quote from: thebrighton on December 12, 2021, 02:37:18 PM
What a total farce, F1 completely ruined by the FIA and Masi.

Totally agree, what they hell was all that about?
first lapped cars could not pass, then they let some through and restarted!!
as you say, totally ruined the race and the championship by NOT sticking to the correct precedures. As far as I am aware if they are to let lapped cars past, they MUST let ALL lapped cars past not just the ones between the 2 championship protagonists!!!

Best wishes from a bloomin angry, keeping the language controlled hehe!!!
Simon

guest311

agree, rules are rules, or not in this case.

would continue but might become political. :'(

I always understood that when the safety car was out NO ONE COULD OVERTAKE.

but then, what would I know  :-[

dannyboy

There definitely needs to be a new rule - once a decision has been made by the Race Director and his team, that decision stays. It is not the first time this season that a decision has been changed.
David.
I used to be indecisive - now I'm not - I don't think.
If a friend seems distant, catch up with them.

daffy

Great FI season finale - but for all the wrong reasons.

Ah well, hours of air time and acres of text will occupy the journos and pundits for months (years?) to come, but it was what it was and let's see what next year brings. Maybe a new rule book? (and an education for those who enforce it?)

Well done to Verstappen and Red Bull and commiserations to Hamilton.

P.S. - I reserve the right to amend/modify the above last statement should need arise in the near future. :D
Mike

Sufferin' succotash!

Newportnobby

The race director should know the rules and follow them, not use his own interpretation to ensure the race finished without a safety car, thus leaving Hamilton at a knife fight and Verstappen with a gun.
For crying out loud, if the rules mean the race would have finished under a safety car then that's the rules!!!!!!
I'm sick and furious, and believe Mercedes/Hamilton have been shortchanged even though I didn't care who won. The stewards and Masi in particular handed this championship to Red Bull/Verstappen on a plate.
And for what it's worth, I thought the decision to take no action when Hamilton had to go off the track was correct. Where else was he supposed to go?
Sadly, I can't see the result being overruled now the rose water has been sprayed and trophies presented despite 2 protests being made by Mercedes. :(
Sack Masi and work to the rules. :veryangry:

chrism

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Quote from: Newportnobby on December 12, 2021, 04:24:32 PM
The race director should know the rules and follow them, not use his own interpretation to ensure the race finished without a safety car, thus leaving Hamilton at a knife fight and Verstappen with a gun.
For crying out loud, if the rules mean the race would have finished under a safety car then that's the rules!!!!!!
I'm sick and furious, and believe Mercedes/Hamilton have been shortchanged even though I didn't care who won. The stewards and Masi in particular handed this championship to Red Bull/Verstappen on a plate.

Definitely. If they wanted the race to end as a live race then they should not have permitted any lapped cars to pass the safety car, since there wasn't time.
If they wanted to let lapped cars pass, then they should have let ALL of them do so, not just those between the leading two cars. They'd have run out of time but, AIUI, them's the rules.

QuoteAnd for what it's worth, I thought the decision to take no action when Hamilton had to go off the track was correct. Where else was he supposed to go?

Indeed - Max ran Lewis off the track, he should not have benefited from that and, rightly, did not do so.

FWIW, had Max won with no shenanigans/assistance at all from the so-called race director, I'd have been far more happy for him - he'd have thoroughly deserved it.

zwilnik

Quote from: Newportnobby on December 12, 2021, 04:24:32 PM

Sadly, I can't see the result being overruled now the rose water has been sprayed and trophies presented despite 2 protests being made by Mercedes. :(
Sack Masi and work to the rules. :veryangry:

Unfortunately the result probably won't change, but hopefully it will lead to Masi being sacked. He's been abysmal all year, including putting marshals on the track while the race was live, not penalising drivers who did multiple laps without safety belts on, the whole Belgian GP farce, dawdling about deploying the safety car when a tractor was on track, allowing Max to basically run people off the road whenever he thought they might overtake etc. This was just the last straw.

Btw. exclusive footage here of Masi manipulating the end result as subtly as possible..
https://youtu.be/c7qIwDjujO4

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