Covid vaccine

[guest311]

Los Angeles just issued an emergency stay at home notice, and the rest of California will probably follow.

The Venture Capitalists in the valley are now investing in lorries with big signs saying "Bring out your Dead"

thought for a moment this was the daily groaner thread

[guest311]

I can just picture it now. Everyone queuing up in an orderly fashion and then.........................

nice to see they are all 2 metres from everyone else 

[daffy]

I can just picture it now. Everyone queuing up in an orderly fashion and then.........................

nice to see they are all 2 metres from everyone else 

Why would they be?   That video was first Published on 25 Nov 2011.

[daffy]

But one wonders what happened there - Urban Outfitters in the Thousand Oaks Mall in California - this year?

[Steven B]

There's a good article on the BBC website about how the Oxford vaccine has been produced so quickly:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55041371

Basically:
The foundations for a vaccine were already in place
There was lots of experience from SARS and MERS corona viruses
They quickly worked out what to exploit to get a working vaccine
Money - lot of of it
Volunteers - lots of them
No delays between trial stages
Regulatory authority putting it at the top of the to-do pile.

Steven B.

[Paddy]

I did not think the responses from other countries about the UK approving a vaccine was very helpful today.  However, Gavin Williamson's comment made me smile. 

Kind regards

Paddy

[Snowwolflair]

The only way they can win that argument is to tell all of Europe none of them can have the Pfizer Vaccine, and that is not going to happen.

The point they were trying to make very badly is that a European approval still holds the manufacturer liable.  The UK emergency approval indemnifies the manufacturer.  So nothing to do with the vaccine itself only what happens if it goes wrong.

[themadhippy]

The only way they can win that argument is to tell all of Europe none of them can have the Pfizer Vaccine

no chance,theirs to much profit for the share holders prestige  at stake

indemnifies the manufacturer.

Dont want to risk  all that profit

[themadhippy]

slow of the mark their @PLD  your normally much quicker to dislike my posts

[Newportnobby]

slow of the mark their @PLD  your normally much quicker to dislike my posts

PLD is not the only one who doesn't like your post. Either present proof of your accusations or the post gets deleted. You like skating on thin ice ice, don't you?

[themadhippy]

Either present proof of your accusations or the post gets deleted.

proof of what?

[Newportnobby]

Either present proof of your accusations or the post gets deleted.

proof of what?

Proof of all the profits you insinuate the shareholders will make

[daffy]

From BBC News online this evening:

"The first consignment of the Pfizer/BioNTech coronavirus vaccine has arrived in the UK.
It has been taken to a central hub at an undisclosed location, and will now be distributed to hospital vaccination centres around the UK."

Let's hope and pray that this will truly be a new dawn in the battle against this virus.

Of course we just need everybody to still keep safe and sensible (yeah, I know, not done so so far in some cases) for a long, long time yet, and not run away with the idea that it's time to relax.

Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, a new hope. (apologies to Winston and George)

[themadhippy]

Proof of all the profits you insinuate the shareholders will make

you honestly think there doing it for humanitarian reasons,but ok as you asked

The firm's chief executive, Bill Enright, told the WSJ that Vaccitech and its investors would receive a "big chunk of the royalties from a successful vaccine as well as 'milestone' payments, but only after the pandemic is declared over".

https://www.theweek.co.uk/107698/who-is-set-to-make-money-from-the-oxford-coronavirus-vaccine

Pfizer ultimately announced it would work on a vaccine on April 9 in partnership with Mainz, Germany-based BioNTech — a collaboration that has gone on to great success. Shares in the two companies rose 7.7 per cent and 13.9 per respectively on Monday

https://www.ft.com/content/0b18aac0-50a3-4694-9d28-ccbc44debcb2

Pfizer and its German biotech partner, BioNTech, stand to make an astonishing £9.8bn next year from a coronavirus vaccine

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/12/covid-vaccine-patent-pharmaceutical-industry-profits-public-sector

  https://assets.oxfamamerica.org/media/documents/Pandemic_Profiteers_Exposed.pdf

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/lead-covid-19-vaccine-players-will-split-100b-sales-and-40b-profits-analyst

https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/news-analysis/vaccines-coronavirus-pharmaceutical-companies-profit-a9644376.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/health/covid-19-vaccine-coronavirus-moderna-pfizer.html

want some more or shall i get  the ice skates

[daffy]

What were Rhett Butler's last words to Scarlett in Gone with the Wind?

- a rhettorical (sic) question.