Covid vaccine

Started by Newportnobby, November 19, 2020, 05:10:01 PM

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NinOz

Quote from: Bealman on November 20, 2020, 06:36:26 AM
Hey, Santa Claus just walked past me in the shopping centre ringing his bell  ;D
I wonder for whom the bell tolls?
To be called pompous and arrogant - hell of a come down.
I tried so hard to be snobbish and haughty.

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Flange Squeal

I hear one potential vaccine delivery system being considered is the sugar lump method. It's hoped it'll sweeten the deal for those who are scared of needles. Leading diabetics have expressed their concern but the drug manufacturers have issued a statement advising them to shut their cake holes.

Newportnobby

Quote from: Ferkeltaxe on November 20, 2020, 08:14:13 AM
I hear one potential vaccine delivery system being considered is the sugar lump method.

I'm of an age whereby the polio vaccine was so issued :-[

Let's try to stay with the vaccine subject and not with all the other usual stuff that goes with Covid please. No one will ever agree on 'crime and punishment' :no:

Paddy

This is a brave topic.  One thing that has surprised me in recent years are the strong views people hold about vaccination.  In the USA, anti vaccine sentiment is almost a religion with views ranging from drug companies making unnecessary profits to some form of new World order plot to control the masses.

Personally, I am not expressing an opinion one way or the other but I do believe medical decisions are private and a matter for the individual.

Kind regards

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Newportnobby

I think replies #1 and #7 have allayed some of my fears, and guess if they test thousands of people (and having seen some have been in their 70s) I guess it's pretty hard to find elderly volunteers who aren't on some sort of medication. Of course I will take note of anything my GP says when the time comes.

joe cassidy

Quote from: Newportnobby on November 20, 2020, 11:42:05 AM
Of course I will take note of anything my GP says when the time comes.

Even if he tells you to lay off the booze  :)

Newportnobby

Quote from: joe cassidy on November 20, 2020, 11:50:19 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on November 20, 2020, 11:42:05 AM
Of course I will take note of anything my GP says when the time comes.

Even if he tells you to lay off the booze  :)

Very rarely drink, Joe, as it makes my heart race. Not good when you have an internal defibrillator! :no:

Steven B

@Newportnobby do you have a seasonal flu vaccine? The science/medicine behind the Covid vaccines is little different.

Vaccines work by triggering a controlled immune response from the natural defences the body has. They don't interact with the bodies chemistry like many drugs for treating heart disease, high blood pressure, cancer etc.

Where you might have a problem is if they role out some of the other treatments being proposed - nasal sprays for example (or any anti-viral medication should you do catch it). That said, many/most of these are based on well established treatments where side effects and interactions with other drugs are already well known.

Personally I wouldn't worry about it, but if you are concerned then a chat with your GP when the time comes to get the vaccine should help.

Steven B.

Newportnobby

Thanks, Steven.
Yeah - I have the flu jab each year with only very mild reactions, and am probably worrying unnecessarily. However, although I believe in the British ways of approving meds I just hope the same strictures are  applied to any foreign ones

guest311

off topic, but had the flu jab this year for the first time, previously haven't bother though SWMBO has had it each year.

this year, she had a reaction to it, which laid her out for about a week, while I never even had the sore arm that we were warned about.

wonder if all that time spent in the SSA guarding **** ***** shhh may have in some way made me not only glow in the dark, but also healthier  :hmmm: :smiley-laughing:

gavin_t

Quote from: class37025 on November 19, 2020, 06:48:21 PM
I think we'd probably be better off if the people who can't be bothered to sanitise etc actually were made to.
went into Tescos this afternoon, needed to resupply on internal alchohol sanitiser, :beers: and while I was spraying my trolley handle and adding hand sanitiser to my hands, over ten ?adults? went straight into the store without any attempt to do so.
they then presumeably spread their germs around the store picking up and putting back items.

and don't even start me on NHS and care workers who wander the aisles in their work clothes.

oh for the days when they didn't wear their uniforms all the time, but changed when they came off the wards, or before they went onto them.

where did I put that internal sanitiser  :beers:



Our hospital trust is very hot on the uniform subject. There are security personnel on all the exits and any staff member trying to leave in a uniform would be questioned.
A lot of people found the changing before leaving a chore but it is all part of the daily process now and people as used to it.
I travel to work like a lycra clad lunatic on my bike so have been getting changed out of my work gear for years anyway. ;D

@Newportnobby as said not a lot of medications react with vaccines and I am sure the appropriate product literature will appear when things are officially launched. 

But any concerns your GP or local pharmacy workers such as myself are all on hand to answer any concerns in the community.

On a side note in all my years working in the NHS I have never seen so much speed and money thrown at something like this vaccine program so it is definatly been taken seriously. Usually takes about 2 months to get someone into a post with notices and CRB checks etc. These vaccine job posts went out last week and people are starting Monday  :confused1:
Unfortunately with a lot of internal staff getting the internal upgrades to new positions we are now short of staff for other things  :doh:

grumbeast

Quote from: Newportnobby on November 20, 2020, 12:18:55 PM
Thanks, Steven.
Yeah - I have the flu jab each year with only very mild reactions, and am probably worrying unnecessarily. However, although I believe in the British ways of approving meds I just hope the same strictures are  applied to any foreign ones

I think Steven make a lot of sense, just as an FYI, so called 'foreign' approval methods could well be as good as or superior to UK ones.  As much as I loved the NHS when I lived in the UK, after having moved back to Canada I find the UK health system positively medieval compared to here (which is also  proper public not for profit healthcare like the NHS).  And lets not forget that the US system is likely strict for purely financial reasons, they won't  want to risk massive lawsuits if there are problems


Steven B

Quote from: Newportnobby on November 20, 2020, 12:18:55 PM
Thanks, Steven.
Yeah - I have the flu jab each year with only very mild reactions, and am probably worrying unnecessarily. However, although I believe in the British ways of approving meds I just hope the same strictures are  applied to any foreign ones

ANY meds used in the UK need to be authorised as safe to use by the UK authorities before use. That goes for medication developed in say Germany, American, Australia or anywhere else you can think off.

As gumbeast says, the approval methods in the medications "home" country could well be stricter than here in the UK.

Steven B.

Newportnobby

My ex did/does work in a hospital and at the time (early 2000s) wearing uniform outside hospital grounds was a disciplinary offence

joe cassidy

Quote from: Newportnobby on November 20, 2020, 11:53:35 AM
Very rarely drink, Joe, as it makes my heart race. Not good when you have an internal defibrillator! :no:

I hope that you've managed to stop fantasizing about Elizabeth Hurley Mick  :no:

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