Early 80s Westcountry Trip Freights

[Foxhound]

Fellow sufferers, I'd like some help if I may? .

I want to recreate a western region trip freight circa 1983, particularly Devon & Cornwall workings.
Could anyone tell me what I might find in the average consist?
I realise sourcing the stock may be a bit tricky but I'd like to try.

Any gen/advice gratefully received.

Cheers!

[crewearpley40]

Rob a good starting point @Foxhound is https://www.tauntontrains.co.uk/          obviously China clay and speedlink workings to / from bristol , exeter riverside, Plymouth, Foley, st blazey. Photos, links can be found here https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/83609-western-region-1980s-freight-west-of-england-division-my-photos/   and https://www.amazon.co.uk/Freight-Trains-Western-Region-1980s/dp/1398100501                                          I'm more than happy to source and cost a speedlink  a china clay rake rob. Around page 45 here I talk with alex about his taunton area layout  https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=49371.660

[Roy L S]

Barnstaple was also still pretty busy with trip freights in the early 80s.

Roy

[maridunian]

Rob a good starting point @Foxhound is https://www.tauntontrains.co.uk/          obviously China clay and speedlink workings to / from bristol , exeter riverside, Plymouth, Foley, st blazey. Photos, links can be found here https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/83609-western-region-1980s-freight-west-of-england-division-my-photos/   and https://www.amazon.co.uk/Freight-Trains-Western-Region-1980s/dp/1398100501

Great links - thanks for sharing!

Mike

[crewearpley40]

Rob a good starting point @Foxhound is https://www.tauntontrains.co.uk/          obviously China clay and speedlink workings to / from bristol , exeter riverside, Plymouth, Foley, st blazey. Photos, links can be found here https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/83609-western-region-1980s-freight-west-of-england-division-my-photos/   and https://www.amazon.co.uk/Freight-Trains-Western-Region-1980s/dp/1398100501

Great links - thanks for sharing!

Mike

they are not an exhaustive list

[Foxhound]

I'm more than happy to source and cost a speedlink  a china clay rake rob.

Apologies for the slow reply Chris. I've got a short rake of hoods, a couple of tube wagons and a VBB currently. I'm looking to build up gradually, but things like the Taunton Cider ferrywagon (they sold out quick!), and maybe a PRA and a Tiger (I believe they have been produced in the past?).
Not a huge rake, just enough to add some interest.
I've seen a PRA on Shapeways but the shipping is a bit scary!
Grateful for any advice or hints.

[crewearpley40]

Rob. Apologies I'm not sure who your supplier is. Can I apologies I'm not sure on the stock your after it's way too modern for my era as im 70s 90s era. Try kernow and ask for Wayne. He maybe able to guide you as I'm of railfreight and speedlink and just remember polybulks, cargowaggons and vaa, vba, vca, vda ,vea  , tta, oba, oca etc

[bridgiesimon]

Also worth noting -
Tullis Russell PAA wagons, previously done by Grafar rare now but occasionally appear on Ebay etc.
Many clay dries were coal fired so short sets of HEA coal wagons were transported into the area, empties returning out. available from Grafar.
Also calcified seaweed was shipped out in old HEA hoppers as well as Yeoman PGA hoppers and Yeoman/ARC POA box wagons. Also available from Grafar
Fertiliser was shipped into Truro goods yard in PWA bogie vans, available as a 3D print on shapeways.
Occasional fuel tanks for St Blazey. Grafar again
Cement tanks to/from Chacewater, mainly in specific trains but occasionally included in mixed freights. Grafar
Consider a variety of vans - VAA/VBA etc, Ferryvans (soon to be released by the NGS), Ferywaggons, Cargowaggons etc Grafar/Dapol/NGS
Also the TSL Polybulk wagons would be seen, done by Grafar though bloomin pricey!!
The tiger wagons were available on Shapeways but have disappeared, I have messaged the designer a few times but never got a reply unfortunately.

Useful website here -
http://www.kalyr.co.uk/railways/CornwallSpeedlinks.html

A trio of very useful books you may wish to check out -
The Newquay Branch and its Branches, John Vaughan
An Illustrated History of West Country China Clay Trains, also by John Vaughan
Diesel Days, Devon and Cornwall, also by John Vaughan

Best wishes and stay safe
Simon

[crewearpley40]

Hea wagons from.my supplier are @Foxhound around £11, farish 373075C and 373029B pga wagon, 373976B and 373975B wagon . My supplier do the 373235 farish polybulk and simon says its pricey at £45. I have a foster yeoman jha kit I was given ready made just the one for sale I don't need.

[crewearpley40]

The tullis paa wagons are converted covhop wagons see farish 377765a and 377766 . I would google these wagons rob

[Foxhound]

The tullis paa wagons are converted covhop wagons see farish 377765a and 377766 . I would google these wagons rob

Payday yesterday and a quick eBay search this lunchtime found an old Farish Tullis Russell PGA  so I'm chuffed about that.
It sits exactly where I need it to date-wise; early 80s.
Your advice is much appreciated again gents.

[Foxhound]

Rob. Apologies I'm not sure who your supplier is. Can I apologies I'm not sure on the stock your after it's way too modern for my era as im 70s 90s era. Try kernow and ask for Wayne. He maybe able to guide you as I'm of railfreight and speedlink and just remember polybulks, cargowaggons and vaa, vba, vca, vda ,vea  , tta, oba, oca etc

Cheers Chris but I'm actually pitching for seventies to mid eighties so your help is still very much appreciated.
I could go with early 2000s clay wagons for my 67s though, I guess. 😂

[crewearpley40]

Afraid I'm not up to date with china ckay stock. Wayne at kernow is the man to speak with. Simonbridgie gave ideas. For this era my leads are the best bet. I can see what price one can get at dutfield. Class 08, 25, 31, 37 on the china clay, 45, 47, 50. Judging by photos here https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/83609-western-region-1980s-freight-west-of-england-division-my-photos/    you may just get away with this  http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/59765/377-476-Graham-Farish-China-Clay-Wagon-BR-Bauxite rob . The class 35s     were all withdrawn by 1975, the Warships by 1972

[crewearpley40]

The tullis paa wagons are converted covhop wagons see farish 377765a and 377766 . I would google these wagons rob

Payday yesterday and a quick eBay search this lunchtime found an old Farish Tullis Russell PGA  so I'm chuffed about that.
It sits exactly where I need it to date-wise; early 80s.
Your advice is much appreciated again gents.

I am glad you found the PGA. I still have the Foster Yeoman on sale

[Foxhound]

Hi Chaps and chappesses, 

I've bought the PRA body from Shapeways (37mm long) but have no idea what Peco chassis it needs? There was nothing on Shapeways page and nothing with the body to indicate which one to get. Can anyone advise?

Cheers!