Early 80s Westcountry Trip Freights

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crewearpley40

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Possibly 15 ft chassis rob @njee20 Nick maybe able to confirm please if this correct for this shapeways product. At a guess maybe worth reading https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=9420.15 this rob @Foxhound

njee20

No idea, sorry, I don't know everything about anything 3D printed, Chris ;)


crewearpley40

Thanks. I was just asking like rob about the suitable chassis  looks like 15ft peco nr 122 . Would it be the right length

Foxhound

Cheers Chris! I'll get hold of one then and see how it goes. Usual issue of one broken ladder but I can get an etched replacement.
Rob and Becky (artistic director)

njee20

Yep, I know, what you were asking, but just not my area of expertise. Sounds like you've answered the question anyway!

37mm scales to about 17', but I don't know what Peco chassis are available.

maridunian

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Quote from: Foxhound on September 30, 2020, 01:09:20 PM



Hi Chaps and chappesses,  :helpneededsign:

I've bought the PRA body from Shapeways (37mm long) but have no idea what Peco chassis it needs? There was nothing on Shapeways page and nothing with the body to indicate which one to get. Can anyone advise?

Cheers!

Yes, the finished example shown appears to use a PECO 15' Wagon Chassis.

FWIW the Farish TTA chassis is the same length, if you'd prefer to use that. I've not come across a source for buying those separately.

Mike
My layout: Mwynwr Tryciau Colliery, the Many Tricks Mine.

My 3D Modelshop: Maridunian's Models

Steven B

My guess is it will fit the Peco 15' chassis.

However, the PRA had quite a long wheelbase for the length of the wagon, more so than the Peco chassis. The Dapol Fish-van might be worth a look as it too has the axles closer to the ends than normal.

Steven B


maridunian

#23


See photo caption top left and model dimensions bottom right. The Peco and Farish 15' wheelbase chasses are 5.3cm over headstocks, Dapol Insulfish ~4.7cm.

Mike
My layout: Mwynwr Tryciau Colliery, the Many Tricks Mine.

My 3D Modelshop: Maridunian's Models

red_death

You might need to cut and stretch the Peco chassis - can't remember what wheelbase the PRAs are.

For a West Country trip freight in 1983 most cargowaggons are probably slightly too late (majority introduced in mid 80s). Stuff like VDAs, VEAs, TTAs, Polybulks, PCAs would be ideal for trip workings along with PRAs, the odd clay tiger and clay hoods.
Shameless plug but our forthcoming MTVs might be useful for the West Country particularly the Stone branded ones.

Cheers Mike



Foxhound

Mike the glaring hole in the RTR market has to be the clay Tiger. If your crowd wanted to make people happy....😉
Rob and Becky (artistic director)

Foxhound

Quote from: Steven B on September 30, 2020, 04:41:23 PM
My guess is it will fit the Peco 15' chassis.

However, the PRA had quite a long wheelbase for the length of the wagon, more so than the Peco chassis. The Dapol Fish-van might be worth a look as it too has the axles closer to the ends than normal.

Steven B
Thanks Steven, worth investigating then!
Rob and Becky (artistic director)

crewearpley40

Rob. More following on from mike worth reading on wagons and freight in general https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/83609-western-region-1980s-freight-west-of-england-division-my-photos/   Obviously china clay was staple bit this may help decide on the traffic flows

Foxhound

Quote from: crewearpley40 on September 30, 2020, 08:53:41 PM
Rob. More following on from mike worth reading on wagons and freight in general https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/83609-western-region-1980s-freight-west-of-england-division-my-photos/   Obviously china clay was staple bit this may help decide on the traffic flows
Chris have I told you you're a legend this week yet? 😉
Rob and Becky (artistic director)

crewearpley40

No rob. Worth investigating Steven's idea. Railfreight stock saw use as did the revolutions mine pointed out. Depends what freight you intend to run I'm pretty sure milk tank traffic was dying out eg on the roads. Meldon quarry stone etc trains were around, paper, china clay

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