Wood vs concrete ties

[Ted]

Hi everyone,

Based on the ties, am I right in saying the track in the foreground is wooden sleeper and the two rails behind are concrete?

Ref - https://www.flickr.com/photos/railpics-online/32404411357/

[chrism]

Hi everyone,

Based on the ties, am I right in saying the track in the foreground is wooden sleeper and the two rails behind are concrete?

Ref - https://www.flickr.com/photos/railpics-online/32404411357/

No, I strongly suspect that the two rails behind are steel 

However, I also suspect that they may be sitting on concrete sleepers.

[ntpntpntp]

Front track is clearly bullhead rail on wooden sleepers.

The track behind is flatbottom rail with Pandrol type clips?  Difficult to see clearly which type, but it does look suspiciously like concrete sleepers.

Found this interesting page whilst wandering round google trying to find photos of Pandrols

http://www.mmrs.co.uk/technical-articles/modern-permanent-way/

[njee20]

I agree with Nick. Bullhead with wooden sleepers in the foreground, flat bottom, probably with concrete in the background.

Ps Americans have ties, we have sleepers or bearers

[Ted]

I thought 'ties' were the things that actually held the rail to the sleeper! Doh.

[Train Waiting]

Front track is clearly bullhead rail on wooden sleepers.

The track behind is flatbottom rail with Pandrol type clips?  Difficult to see clearly which type, but it does look suspiciously like concrete sleepers.

Found this interesting page whilst wandering round google trying to find photos of Pandrols

http://www.mmrs.co.uk/technical-articles/modern-permanent-way/

I agree with Nick.  The front line is bullhead rail in three-hole chairs on wooden sleepers.  Modellers often call these three bolt chairs but the normal fixing for these is a screw.  The lines behind certainly look like concrete sleepers and the flat-bottom rails are secured by 'Pandrol' clips.



Thank you for that interesting link, Nick.

Best wishes.

John

[Neil of Teesside]

You can even get chaired bull-head track on concrete sleepers, not so common on the railway network but still in use on the Nene Valley Railway.