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Re: Slow laptop
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2019, 12:53:56 AM »
Worth a look in the task manager, right click on the task bar at the bottom. One of the options is a list of programmes that run on start up. If there is something you don’t recognise, look it up on the internet before disabling it. It may help. Also loading the registry can slow things down, so a SSD as mentioned before can speed things up. A proprietary register cleaner might help but don’t trust any free ones.

Hello Malc,

I have attached (I hope) a screenshot of the Task Manager, which looks OK to me, although the 205 seconds BIOS time is obviously the problem.

@themadhippy , the logo appears just before the lock screen appears, so presumably at the end of the BIOS setup.

Thanks, @Railwaygun , for your comprehensive reply. I have tried to run chkdsk without much success, but I will try some of your other suggestions when I have more time.

I will keep you posted.

Cheers,

Chris

Try typing CHKDSK into the Windows button/text box in l lower corner of screen then press enter

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Try resetting bios settings to defaults

Start tapping f10 and then start your laptop. What appears on the screen after starting and continually tapping f10? On the Samsung there should be an option to modify BIOS Settings on the page. Select that and you will enter BIOS.
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Re: Slow laptop
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2019, 01:30:57 PM »
Worth a look in the task manager, right click on the task bar at the bottom. One of the options is a list of programmes that run on start up. If there is something you don’t recognise, look it up on the internet before disabling it. It may help. Also loading the registry can slow things down, so a SSD as mentioned before can speed things up. A proprietary register cleaner might help but don’t trust any free ones.

Hello Malc,

I have attached (I hope) a screenshot of the Task Manager, which looks OK to me, although the 205 seconds BIOS time is obviously the problem.

@themadhippy , the logo appears just before the lock screen appears, so presumably at the end of the BIOS setup.

Thanks, @Railwaygun , for your comprehensive reply. I have tried to run chkdsk without much success, but I will try some of your other suggestions when I have more time.

I will keep you posted.

Cheers,

Chris

I would start up msconfig and stop
All
Start up progs except windows defender .
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Re: Slow laptop
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2019, 01:55:47 PM »
read the original post

the slowness is before the laptop even tries to boot so replacing the HD or OS isn't going to help


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Re: Slow laptop
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2019, 03:47:21 PM »
Yes, that makes me wonder if there is a problem with the BIOS or motherboard.



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Re: Slow laptop
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2019, 04:31:31 PM »
Just as a matter of interest, does it show the correct time when it does boot up?
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Re: Slow laptop
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2019, 05:26:22 PM »
Hello all,

Many thanks for all your replies. I've now managed to run CHKDSK but it came up with nothing. @Malc the date and time are always correct.

Searching the internet regarding computer problems is usually a waste of time for me because I don't understand the answers! However, on this occasion I did come up with this advice:

An easy way to reduce your notebook’s boot time is to make sure the BIOS boots off the internal hard disk drive first. The BIOS on most laptops is configured to try to boot off of the optical disk drive and then off one or two other devices (such as a USB flash drive) before attempting to boot off the hard drive. To change these settings, simply enter the BIOS (usually by pressing F2, F12 or the escape key during the boot process), navigate to the Boot menu and move Internal Hard Disk Drive to the top of the Boot Priority list.

I managed to get into BIOS (thank you again, @Railwaygun ) and navigated to Boot Drive Priority. This is what it gave me:

Touch Pad Mouse            Enabled
Secure Boot                   Enabled

Internet LAN                  Enabled
PXE OPROM                   Disabled

Is this how it should be? The first 3 I can understand but the 4th is a mystery. What is it, and should it be enabled? And is this the right order?

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm beginning to hope that there is nothing seriously wrong with my laptop (fingers crossed!) and a few tweaks might sort it out.

Thanks again, everybody,

Cheers,

Chris
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Re: Slow laptop
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2019, 06:15:57 PM »
They don't sound like boot priority options.  I would expect the choices to be Hard Disk, USB,  CD-Rom.  That sort of thing.
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Re: Slow laptop
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2019, 06:31:18 PM »
PXE I remember from the early days when PCs didn't have hard drives, but booted from a network. I don't think it applies these days. However as Nick says, those options look like boot options, rather than drive order.
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Re: Slow laptop
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2019, 09:15:42 PM »
Hello all,

Many thanks for all your replies. I've now managed to run CHKDSK but it came up with nothing. @Malc the date and time are always correct.

Searching the internet regarding computer problems is usually a waste of time for me because I don't understand the answers! However, on this occasion I did come up with this advice:

An easy way to reduce your notebook’s boot time is to make sure the BIOS boots off the internal hard disk drive first. The BIOS on most laptops is configured to try to boot off of the optical disk drive and then off one or two other devices (such as a USB flash drive) before attempting to boot off the hard drive. To change these settings, simply enter the BIOS (usually by pressing F2, F12 or the escape key during the boot process), navigate to the Boot menu and move Internal Hard Disk Drive to the top of the Boot Priority list.

I managed to get into BIOS (thank you again, @Railwaygun ) and navigated to Boot Drive Priority. This is what it gave me:

Touch Pad Mouse            Enabled
Secure Boot                   Enabled

Internet LAN                  Enabled
PXE OPROM                   Disabled

Is this how it should be? The first 3 I can understand but the 4th is a mystery. What is it, and should it be enabled? And is this the right order?

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm beginning to hope that there is nothing seriously wrong with my laptop (fingers crossed!) and a few tweaks might sort it out.

Thanks again, everybody,

Cheers,

Chris

I would turn off all items on the bootvdrive priority,starting with secure boot

It would help if you could tell us the Samsung model number

F2 at boot up ( press S soon as switched on and keep pressing) should get you into the BIOS setup

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Re: Slow laptop
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2019, 06:10:56 PM »
Hello people, sorry I haven't replied for a few days.

I tried some of the simpler remedies suggested, but chickened out of anything I didn't understand. Nothing made any difference, so I took it into my local laptop repair shop yesterday. They have told me the problem is with the graphics card which is apparently failing but unfortunately not repairable. I can't complain - the laptop is 7 years old, and it was my wife's cast-off! I have the machine back and will keep going with it as long as I can, but it will need replacing sooner than I had hoped.

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« Last Edit: October 17, 2019, 06:12:33 PM by Papyrus, Reason: Correction »
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