That which I had never seen before.

[Newportnobby]

Its Christmas please can I stay confused until new year ty.mike

New mind New Year, Mike. I think I'd be eternally confused by that lot

[MikeDunn]

but I will conceed that I did not truly represent the apparant magnitudes, not being expected to anticipate a nit picker  ( on a forum !! I shudav knowed better  )

     

As this is a major interest of mine ...    That image from Wiki is indeed a Yank one (as I suspected; in this case, Sky & Telescope magazine)), us Brits ignore Meissa as being too dim for naked-eye inclusions (think it's between mag 3 & 4, offhand ?); just normally the main 4 (one per corner), the 3 in the Belt & the nebula for the Sword.

[fatso]

but I will conceed that I did not truly represent the apparant magnitudes, not being expected to anticipate a nit picker  ( on a forum !! I shudav knowed better  )

     

As this is a major interest of mine ...    That image from Wiki is indeed a Yank one (as I suspected; in this case, Sky & Telescope magazine)), us Brits ignore Meissa as being too dim for naked-eye inclusions (think it's between mag 3 & 4, offhand ?); just normally the main 4 (one per corner), the 3 in the Belt & the nebula for the Sword.

Hey I believe you no problem hear.

[MalcolmInN]

but I will conceed that I did not truly represent the apparant magnitudes, not being expected to anticipate a nit picker  ( on a forum !! I shudav knowed better  )

     

As this is a major interest of mine ...    That image from Wiki is indeed a Yank one (as I suspected; in this case, Sky & Telescope magazine)), us Brits ignore Meissa as being too dim for naked-eye inclusions (think it's between mag 3 & 4, offhand ?); just normally the main 4 (one per corner), the 3 in the Belt & the nebula for the Sword.

and mine,
hang on a min. where did I put my Nortons, oh crumbs was he a yank as well,
I dont normally keep my chum Patrick's stuff but if you   insist  persist LOL I'll dig something out,
but I assure you it is commonly,
and my NELM is routine 5, often 5.5 and (when my eyes were younger ) sometimes bettern6
So there
hehe gud'un

(dont worry mods. it isnt a real war )

Sorry NPN and fatso, but tiz all his fault

[dannyboy]

Wot you lot on about? . David.

[fatso]

but I will conceed that I did not truly represent the apparant magnitudes, not being expected to anticipate a nit picker  ( on a forum !! I shudav knowed better  )

     

As this is a major interest of mine ...    That image from Wiki is indeed a Yank one (as I suspected; in this case, Sky & Telescope magazine)), us Brits ignore Meissa as being too dim for naked-eye inclusions (think it's between mag 3 & 4, offhand ?); just normally the main 4 (one per corner), the 3 in the Belt & the nebula for the Sword.

and mine,
hang on a min. where did I put my Nortons, oh crumbs was he a yank as well,
I dont normally keep my chum Patrick's stuff but if you   insist  persist LOL I'll dig something out,
but I assure you it is commonly,
and my NELM is routine 5, often 5.5 and (when my eyes were younger ) sometimes bettern6
So there
hehe gud'un

(dont worry mods. it isnt a real war )

Sorry NPN and fatso, but tiz all his fault

Don't panic help will be with you soon

[MalcolmInN]

(dont worry mods. it isnt a real war )

Well not yet anyway lol!

How about the Torygraph Mike, (or are they in hock to the yanks as well ?)
middle bottom :-
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02104/Telegraph-Skychart_2104072b.jpg


Poor NinOz, look what we did to his topic, sorry from me.
Mike, I think we had better desist now else NPN, fatso et al will errr self destruct or something,

I enjoyed it,
you can have the last word :

[MikeDunn]

If you insist on using the Torygraph 

Have a gander @ Ursa Major    Not to mention the massive head on Andromeda's shoulders    (yes, I know is the Square of Pegasus, but the way they present it ...  )

[Agrippa]

If you insist on using the Torygraph 

No political statements allowed by order of the fuhrer !

[Trainfish]

I spent all night drinking this  and then I start reading this thread. Nothing computes. I think I need a lie down.

[MalcolmInN]

Have a gander @

Beeeep : Deviation
Nicholas will be after you 

[MikeDunn]

Beeeep : Deviation
Nicholas will be after you 

Ooooh, Santa himself ?   Please sir, I've been a good boy 

[MalcolmInN]

I've been a good boy

Really ? Come see me later in my study.

Back to Orion,
Norton (1910 pub in GB,, I still have my '64 Inglis ed.) shows im/it,
anyhow, he'd look pretty silly if he had no head, 'specially dahnunner standing on it !

What's the bet we'll still be debating this when Beetlejuice goes Sn ? and if that isnt a cue for a new debate/hope I dunno what is