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Author Topic: Dapol / Miller project HST model due 2016  (Read 19595 times)

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Dapol / Miller project HST model due 2016
« on: September 26, 2015, 10:26:13 PM »
 
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First seen at TINGS but MREMAG claims it will be a loco + coaches bookset

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Re: Farish / Miller project HST model due 2016
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2015, 10:45:43 PM »
It is a Dapol project not Farish!



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Re: Dapol / Miller project HST model due 2016
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Re: Dapol / Miller project HST model due 2016
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2015, 08:47:06 AM »
Oh that's quite exciting, is it likely to be attainable by expats? I won't be in the UK any time soon!

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Re: Dapol / Miller project HST model due 2016
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2015, 11:55:22 AM »
Yes, it's a fantastic news!  :claphappy:
It would be even better if the HST prototype could be avaible on its own, without the whole bookset.


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Re: Dapol / Miller project HST model due 2016
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2015, 12:37:36 PM »
This is great news. I hope (probably in vain) that a full length grey/blue set will be created!

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Re: Dapol / Miller project HST model due 2016
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2015, 12:58:25 PM »
I definitely to get one these!!!!!
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Re: Dapol / Miller project HST model due 2016
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2015, 01:54:13 PM »
Brilliant!

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Re: Dapol / Miller project HST model due 2016
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2015, 02:17:41 PM »
Spend all my time complaining they don't release anything I want, then they reveal something I didn't know I wanted...  :-[

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Re: Dapol / Miller project HST model due 2016
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2015, 07:52:07 PM »
I think I'm going to make a lot of people happy  :claphappy:

I spoke with the product developers and with Joel at TINGS.

Its being produced for the Miller Project (the group which is bringing 41001 back to life - see http://www.projectmiller.org.uk and enjoy) and will be sold from their website and also from Dapol direct, although as Dapol say, all proceeds go to the Miller Project.

It will be in a boxed set like all production HSTs are, with a couple of coaches in reverse blue grey, and Dapol said there will also be seperate coaches in reverse blue grey to make an accurate full length train too.

Which only begs the question:

What was the consist of the prototype HST? Was it the same as the production model (i.e. on the WR it was initially TF-TF-TRUB(ish)-TS-TS-TS-TS)

Big  :thankyousign: to Dapol and Miller Project

Bob



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Re: Dapol / Miller project HST model due 2016
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2015, 08:09:42 PM »
A list of the prototype Mk3 vehicles can be found here but I do not know how many were used in a typical rake as 2+10 seems quite long.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_252

I know that there was a specially modified Mk1 catering vehicle that was used for a while before the TRUK and TRSB were ready.

Now if only Rapido can be persuaded to shrink their prototype APT-E to N gauge, we will be able to recreate this scene!  :drool:

Well, that's just not good enough. Some fount of all knowledge you are!  :no:  ;)

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Re: Dapol / Miller project HST model due 2016
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2015, 09:37:30 PM »
I cant imagine a mk 1 RMB doing 125 kph let alone 125 mph  :uneasy:

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Re: Dapol / Miller project HST model due 2016
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2015, 09:51:42 PM »
I cant imagine a mk 1 RMB doing 125 kph let alone 125 mph  :uneasy:

Yup,it was rated for 125 mph running, 3rd vehicle from the front.



And that was not the oldest vehicle that ran with the HST prototype either. An ex-LMS dynamometer car was a frequent addition.

Well, that's just not good enough. Some fount of all knowledge you are!  :no:  ;)

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Re: Dapol / Miller project HST model due 2016
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2015, 09:57:49 PM »
Well i've found more details on the Mk III rake used. See http://www.traintesting.com/consist_HST.htm for details.

When it settled down in revenue service it went back to an 8 car with TF-TF-TF-TRUK-TRSB-TS-TS-TS but was originally a 10 car train as Karhedron first suggested.
The Mk 3s had buffers in the prototype train - DAPOL PLEASE NOTE

You were right about the Mk 1 buffet in the test train. Its here, thankfully on Mk III bogies. http://www.traintesting.com/images/Test%20run%20-%20early%20days.jpg

This is a real eye opener - i was just a spotter at the time and i was really pleased to see it at Old Oak in 1975.

I cant believe that we didnt have Mk III coaches at that time... i feel really old now  :(

Bob

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Re: Dapol / Miller project HST model due 2016
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2015, 09:59:42 PM »
Hi The Mk1 buffet was a RKB 1524 mounted on lovely Mk3 bogies so a lovely or was that a lively ride available.
The MLI 208 issue is on HST pages 10 and 11 show some lovely pics  of test formations with a 1939 vintage test coach and Mk1 buffet - these are available as etches from Worsley works and I am sure Adam could russle up a vinyl...

The power car shown will do for these early runs but the scrapped power car 43001 got altered roof cantrail grills production type?  so more yellow front test rakes will be a near perfect representation.  A test train twin pack has been suggested so hopefully a more yellow option will be possible.

Looking at pictures it is fun to see the changing location of 252001  on the front between the two vehicles..
equally bogies differed from production series - production were beefed up a bit and had differing damper arrangements

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