Windows 10 A breath of fresh air.

austinbob · August 24, 2015, 06:15:22 PM

Quote from: austinbob on August 19, 2015, 06:12:48 PM
Maybe I should give it another try. I did have quite a few problems when I installed it and I went back to Windows 7.
A lot of people have had no problems and like W10 - such as your good self.
I'll give it a few weeks so Microsoft can put out a few more updates and then try again

Ok... So I bit the bullet and reinstalled W10. The automatic upgrade whatsit didn't work so I had to download the media tool and install W10 that way.
No problems with installation at all. Windows DVD player worked for a while and then collapsed saying it had error 0x8004027d with no text. Dumped it and used VLC media player (free) which works great. Microsoft edge crashes out my ethernet adapter (it did the last time I installed it also) so set Google Chrome as default browser - no further problems so far.
Money 2001 worked this time without a registry hack but didn't recognise my old Money file. So spent a happy few hours setting Money up again - happy days!!
Touch wood everything is ok now. I like the Start menu where you can group all the programs you usually use without having shortcuts all over the desk top or in the task bar. - My Windows phone does that and its really nice to use.
Not much else is different to Windows 7. I won't be using Cortana, Edge, or DVD player.
So - lets see how we get on for the next 2 or 3 weeks. If all is ok I'll be happy and keep W10.

austinbob · August 24, 2015, 07:17:16 PM

Quote from: austinbob on August 24, 2015, 06:15:22 PMMicrosoft edge crashes out my ethernet adapter (it did the last time I installed it also) so set Google Chrome as default browser - no further problems so far.

Spoke too soon. Ethernet adapter crashed out on Chrome. Now trying Wireless connection which is slightly slower (40 Mbs rather than up to 60Mbs.
:'(

Jack · August 24, 2015, 07:32:30 PM

QuoteI won't be using Cortana, Edge,

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, even if you don't actually use Edge, Win10 uses it all the time with no way of un-installing it. Those who use Ccleaner would have discovered that Ccleaner always asks to close Edge to continue cleaning even though Edge was never "opened" by a user.

When I asked a client of mine who works for Cisco (very large US computer Systems company) as a Computer Systems engineer about this issue he told me that basically if you use Windows 10 you have no choice as Edge is the way MS are turning towards a cloud based system.

austinbob · August 24, 2015, 07:47:37 PM

Quote from: Jack on August 24, 2015, 07:32:30 PM
QuoteI won't be using Cortana, Edge,

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, even if you don't actually use Edge, Win10 uses it all the time with no way of un-installing it. Those who use Ccleaner would have discovered that Ccleaner always asks to close Edge to continue cleaning even though Edge was never "opened" by a user.

When I asked a client of mine who works for Cisco (very large US computer Systems company) as a Computer Systems engineer about this issue he told me that basically if you use Windows 10 you have no choice as Edge is the way MS are turning towards a cloud based system.

So far all is ok using Wireless connection - even with Edge. Edge would crash the Ethernet connection very frequently.

Lankyman · August 25, 2015, 05:19:21 PM

After a couple of weeks of relative stability Win 10 has started being stupid again and very little works so I decided that it was time to revert to Win 7. Found the button that says this option is only available for up to one month so, as I am well inside one month, I clicked. Then I got a message to say that I cannot revert to Win 7 "as all the files needed to do this have been removed from my PC!!!!" Now who did that?? I didn't because I wouldn't know how to! So it appears that I am stuck with Win 10. I AM NOT HAPPY!!!! GRRRR!!!

At the moment I am using Edge because Firefox won't open, neither will Outlook. I desperately need to do some urgent correspondence but Word keeps crashing and refusing to open documents. I can't connect my phone to sync my diary using Samsung Kies and I keep getting endless error messages that it can't do something because it can't read the memory. No wonder if somebody has pinched the files!!!

So far as I am concerned Microsoft have got a lot to answer for. Just give me back my tried, tested and trusted Win 7.

Ron

MikeDunn · August 25, 2015, 05:22:36 PM

Sounds like you need to do a full rebuild

... hope you still have the original media for all your apps ?

austinbob · August 25, 2015, 05:36:02 PM

Quote from: Lankyman on August 25, 2015, 05:19:21 PM
After a couple of weeks of relative stability Win 10 has started being stupid again and very little works so I decided that it was time to revert to Win 7. Found the button that says this option is only available for up to one month so, as I am well inside one month, I clicked. Then I got a message to say that I cannot revert to Win 7 "as all the files needed to do this have been removed from my PC!!!!" Now who did that?? I didn't because I wouldn't know how to! So it appears that I am stuck with Win 10. I AM NOT HAPPY!!!! GRRRR!!!

At the moment I am using Edge because Firefox won't open, neither will Outlook. I desperately need to do some urgent correspondence but Word keeps crashing and refusing to open documents. I can't connect my phone to sync my diary using Samsung Kies and I keep getting endless error messages that it can't do something because it can't read the memory. No wonder if somebody has pinched the files!!!

So far as I am concerned Microsoft have got a lot to answer for. Just give me back my tried, tested and trusted Win 7.

Ron

There is a reset computer option that reinstalls W10. Might be worth a try if you've run out of options.

Lankyman · August 25, 2015, 06:04:30 PM

Thanks Bob but I would rather not have Win 10 although your suggestion might be my only option now. I would really like to go back to Win 7 and that is what Microsft promised I could do within one month. I didn't remove the files - Microsoft did when they installed Win 10. Are they in breach of contract? Can I sue them for the pain and suffering they are causing me. I don't really have the time to search the Microsft help site for a solution as I need to complete my correspondence. I can only do this now because Outlook and Firefox have temporarily restored after Word let me do one short document and then crashed again.

At my age time is too precious to be pratting about trying to get a stupid computer to work.

Ron

austinbob · August 25, 2015, 06:23:52 PM

Quote from: Lankyman on August 25, 2015, 06:04:30 PM
Thanks Bob but I would rather not have Win 10 although your suggestion might be my only option now. I would really like to go back to Win 7 and that is what Microsft promised I could do within one month. I didn't remove the files - Microsoft did when they installed Win 10. Are they in breach of contract? Can I sue them for the pain and suffering they are causing me. I don't really have the time to search the Microsft help site for a solution as I need to complete my correspondence. I can only do this now because Outlook and Firefox have temporarily restored after Word let me do one short document and then crashed again.

At my age time is too precious to be pratting about trying to get a stupid computer to work.

Ron

Ron - another possibility is to go back to a system restore point before you had the problem. If you have one that is.

Dorsetmike · August 25, 2015, 07:25:37 PM

Do you not have your original Win 7 disc? If not you can get Win 7 discs here

http://itrevive.co.uk/windows-7-home-premium-key-64bit.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjw6deeBRCswoauquC8haUBEiQAdq5zh0uuxZGtQT17G-BDngJ76LFvC9-gVayVfurh5Owpc0UaApv_8P8HAQ

Scroll down to the discs, the first item is only a licence for win 7 home .

If you already have a disc with another machine, then you can get the licence only and use that, you can also get a licence for Win 7 Pro if you have the relevant disc disc

Headly South · August 26, 2015, 08:35:57 PM

I Did A laptop onto Windows 10 last night, So that's a desktop and a laptop done and both without any grief

austinbob · August 30, 2015, 10:04:25 AM

Quote from: austinbob on August 24, 2015, 07:17:16 PM
Quote from: austinbob on August 24, 2015, 06:15:22 PMMicrosoft edge crashes out my ethernet adapter (it did the last time I installed it also) so set Google Chrome as default browser - no further problems so far.
Spoke too soon. Ethernet adapter crashed out on Chrome. Now trying Wireless connection which is slightly slower (40 Mbs rather than up to 60Mbs.
:'(

Apparently this is a known issue with Broadcom Netlink Gigabit Ethernet adapters and is a driver issue. Have installed latest driver version 17.2.0.0 - so far so good even with Edge.
There are instructions on how to download and install the updated driver here http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-networking/broadcom-netlink-gigabit-ethernet-driver-network/c891eb95-8cea-4271-909e-21140eaaa1d2?auth=1
Check out the 2nd post down for instructions

Wishmaster · August 30, 2015, 02:21:51 PM

A word of warning:

I installed it on mother-in-laws laptop. It's been OK for less than a week. Now on start-up it puts up a box saying 'Critical Error - Start and Cortana have stopped working....' etc etc. Only way out of the box is to close account (shut down) and restart, trouble is you get it when you start up again!

Searching on google reveals that this is a known and unfixed problem and has been present since early alpha days! Microsoft's only work around, which they admit will only work on some PCs, is to restart the PC in safe mode, then reboot in normal mode, may work, may not.

I'm now holding back and staying with Windows 7 for the time being!!

Tdm · August 30, 2015, 06:39:08 PM

It's my turn to migrate from Windows 8.1 to 10, and it is scheduled to take place on the 1st September at 9pm (my choice).

So today been busy backing up everything I can in case of any problems.

The misses who was running Windows XP on her own Laptop and got upgraded to W10 2 days ago - but not without a few problems.

Keeping my fingers crossed that everything goes smoothly - what I didn't like with W8.1 was the Apps, as I prefer not to use them at all and run my PC from the Desktop screen.

When I moved to W8 from W7 also had a few problems with some software packages that would no longer run - even in any sort of compatibilty mode.

Hope all the software I now regularly use will work O.K. with W10 and I don't have to install and learn some new alternatives - keeping my fingers crossed.

I currently use Firefox, Gmail, and Incredimail, plus LibreOffice for Word Processing, Spreadsheets etc., on my Toshiba Satellite core I7 Laptop which has plenty of RAM & a 1 Terrabyte hard disk, so it should cope with W10 O.K..

Apart from the Windows Operating System, I avoid using any other Microsoft offerings if I can.

Wishmaster · August 31, 2015, 12:25:53 AM

Quote from: Tdm on August 30, 2015, 06:39:08 PM
The misses who was running Windows XP on her own Laptop and got upgraded to W10 2 days ago - but not without a few problems.

I'm intrigued. How did she get upgraded to Windows 10 whilst on xP? I assume this was a paid for upgrade? Criteria for the free upgrade is that you must have Windows 7, 8, or 8.1. If that's not the case, please tell all!! I have an xP laptop that I'd risk a go at if it was free!

However, I do once again refer all to my post before TDM's regards the critical error problems!