New Graham Farish Class 37 (With Sound)

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scottmitchell74

Instead of being a wishy-washy dope, this time I pre-ordered.

Hopefully everything will be on schedule and in good running shape.

https://www.themodelcentre.com/372-113sf
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eddief83

So happy to see this and even better its a new variant of 37. I will definitely be ordering some of these, better get some overtime in

Ensign Elliott

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So pleased to see these released at long last.

Something doesn't look quite right with them though. It could be angle of the photos but the fuel tanks look a bit small and there's still a sizable gap between the body and bogies. Overall they don't appear to have the 37 "look".





I wonder if the new sound fitted chassis will fit the non sound bodies released a few years ago.

scottmitchell74

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bluedepot

how much of the tooling is new?

is it a completely new chassis?

it does still seem to be sitting a bit too high but maybe that's not the final version


PaulCheffus

Quote from: bluedepot on Today at 11:56:29 AMhow much of the tooling is new?

is it a completely new chassis?

it does still seem to be sitting a bit too high but maybe that's not the final version

Hi

The usual reason for the larger gap is so it will go around sharper curves than the prototype. It is possible to lower the body on the chassis with the older versions if you have more generous curves so it might be possible on these.

Cheers

Paul
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Dalek

Hopefully green ones to follow and hopefully spit head code box versions as well  :read2:

Craig

Dr Al

Quote from: Ensign Elliott on Today at 11:34:27 AMSo pleased to see these released at long last.

Something doesn't look quite right with them though. It could be angle of the photos but the fuel tanks look a bit small and there's still a sizable gap between the body and bogies. Overall they don't appear to have the 37 "look".

They've not corrected the ride height issue of the previous iteration of the tooling - that's why the tanks sit too high (and body/bogie gap is too large).

It can be clearly seen in Bachmann's own video - the buffers are sitting higher than the adjacent 24.5ton wagon (admittedly, assuming this is correct, but it likely is).

Disappointing, but perhaps deliberate to save money and also have them match older iterations of the 37.

I'd like to also see the running - top speed etc has been absolutely abysmal on recent designs using the gutless (in terms of RPM)small coreless motor that's in the 90, 158, 60 and new 47s - none of which I've been at all mechanically impressed with. The flywheels too, on these, are a joke.

Cheers,
Alan
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Dr Al

Quote from: PaulCheffus on Today at 12:15:29 PMThe usual reason for the larger gap is so it will go around sharper curves than the prototype.

This is a poor excuse - lowering the body (which I've done on 20+ of these) does not hinder them going round right down to 9" curves (i.e. tighter than Bachmann's recommended minimum R2 10.5").

Cheers,
Alan
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If Dr Al is online he may be able to provide a more comprehensive answer.

"We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces."Dr. Carl Sagan

EtchedPixels

Doesn't help that it looks like it's got a drainpipe glued to the end of each nose. If they can't make that detail fine they should have omitted it - it looks ludicrous.

Otherwise apart from the height still being screwed up it doesn't look too bad.
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bluedepot

it leaves the door open to revolution or rapido to make a correct height 37 maybe...

it's not the end of the world of course, but if it's really a band new tooling you'd expect it to be better than the previous 37s.

i think maybe they have used the old chassis and body dimensions as a starting point?  i suppose they want the old bodies to fit the newer chassis with speaker... who knows...


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