It's some years since I converted a Brit to the Duke, but I'm pretty certain the double chimney was from BHE. It came as part of a twin pack of some sort, possibly 9F detailing kit?

Martyn

Quote from: Papyrus on July 30, 2026, 05:38:18 PMQuite why so many ended up shedded here is a mystery.

Haven't you missed out a letter "r" there?

 

Quote from: ntpntpntp on July 18, 2026, 05:11:14 PMSo who's getting a Dapol SPAM wagon? 

Free publicity for this discussion thread!

First, SPAM Japan has just passed this Coronation Crewe via Poole machine through its heavy repair shop for replacement of a broken cylinder block:



Its numbered 6242 (City of Glasgow) in lined-black, however its carrying 6245 City of London name plates. So I understand its not as originally passed out from Romany Works, Poole.... ( historians of our scale such as John @Train Waiting or Ian @icairns may differ in that opinion ?)

Purchased from, I believe it was, eBay quite some many circumnavigations of the sun ago (am not exactly sure when since its before I started properly logging all my stock in an Excel workbook) it has been sitting waiting for this repair for quite a while. Work done and she turns out to be an incredibly smooth, for its era, showing surprisingly decent slow speed control. This even though I did not as yet put back that ugly black wire running between coal hole and coal hole which provides the additional 2nd side tender pick up.

So then what stock to run with? Well! the recent post from @Dancess got me digging in the carriage drawer. I own almost no LMS carriages except these two. They were in fact purchased for butchery for conversion to push/pull in line with an article in Railway Modeller of many years ago. I did one of those (poorly) in my teens and actually have no idea where it went. However they have been saved from the knife by the recent Dapol announcement! Both in their card boxes, one even in the original velveteen!



So here they are hooked up to 6242/6245 (pick a number or name according to your taste! ):





And I do think it makes a really smart combination. Even to a dedicated adherent to the faith of that other big 4 company with lettering beginning with L such as myself....

Cheers,

Colin.

And I just found the LMS Driving Trailer conversion article - Railway Modeller May 1977:



The unfortunate victim was one of my first two N-gauge coaches - purchased for me by my father from part of the proceeds of trading in the Hornby Double-O 3 rail in 1973 (I think?).

Colin.

Well done Alan, just love this thread

When I get the chance I must dig out the collection of my old locos and rolling stock.

Sixteen or so years back I had a fetish for collecting Grafar and Graham Farish models, most were bought by traveling round to toy fairs and exhibitions. The ones that I decided to keep are pretty much in mint condition. 

The rarest because of the fact it works with its original working mechanism and chassis, and in its box and sleeve, has to be the Golden Arrow SC, I have a collection of these and its the only one that is fully functional.
 
Dave

What a SuperSpiffing job, @cmason . Proper job! And tricky, too, as this is a four-cylinder locomotive. Still at least you would have lifted the boiler so re-erecting the inside motion would be easier.

I understand Mr Ivatt the Younger's lined black was the late Derek Cross' favourite livery. The 'Royal Scots' also looked good so adorned, especially the rebuilt ones.

Assuming the printing looks original, the non-matching name and number might have been a manufacturing error. I have an '00' Wrenn Hurricane with something similar.

With all good wishes.

John

Quote from: Bob G on July 30, 2026, 05:57:29 PMThere used to be a double chimney kit for the Peco jubilee. Also isn't there a current Farish loco with a double chimney? Farish spares are pretty good source of bits. Failing that a dead Dapol 9F?

Bob

Thanks for putting me on a possible trail. FarishNSpares do a number of spare smokeboxes with double chimney for just a couple of quid or so. Worth buying one and getting to work with a razorsaw.

Quote from: cmason on Yesterday at 04:32:37 PM

And I do think it makes a really smart combination. Even to a dedicated adherent to the faith of that other big 4 company with lettering beginning with L such as myself....

Cheers,

Colin.

I do agree with you there. The Duchesses are handsome looking engines, even to us Eastern types. The lined black livery suited them particularly well, I think.

Cheers,

Chris

Quote from: Papyrus on Yesterday at 08:42:23 PM

Quote from: Bob G on July 30, 2026, 05:57:29 PMThere used to be a double chimney kit for the Peco jubilee. Also isn't there a current Farish loco with a double chimney? Farish spares are pretty good source of bits. Failing that a dead Dapol 9F?

Bob

Thanks for putting me on a possible trail. FarishNSpares do a number of spare smokeboxes with double chimney for just a couple of quid or so. Worth buying one and getting to work with a razorsaw.

Quote from: cmason on Yesterday at 04:32:37 PM

And I do think it makes a really smart combination. Even to a dedicated adherent to the faith of that other big 4 company with lettering beginning with L such as myself....

Cheers,

Colin.

I do agree with you there. The Duchesses are handsome looking engines, even to us Eastern types. The lined black livery suited them particularly well, I think.

Cheers,

Chris

Chris agree with you there one beautiful loco. Try Lee farish n spares
At lprails who took over from Bob Russell

Lprails20@gmail.com

Quote from: Papyrus on Yesterday at 08:42:23 PMI do agree with you there. The Duchesses are handsome looking engines, even to us Eastern types.

Definitely - although I prefer the streamlined version myself.

Here's my collection covering most of the variations - streamlined, de-streamlined and never streamlined, with single and double chimney in each case where appropriate.

Not all (or, maybe, not really) SPAM, however.
The streamliners are all from Ross Teirney's kits fitted to modern Farish chassis.
The non-streamlined ones, whilst being either properly-Poole or the Chinese modified version, have all been modified by me - those that were never streamlined have had the running plate front filled in as Farish got that bit wrong, whilst the one that is an ex-streamliner sports the flat-topped smokebox - which they all had until their next boiler replacement when they received a fully cylindrical smokebox.
Also, 6230 Duchess of Buccleuch has been given a 3D printed replacement smokebox with a single chimney.
They've also all had a respray and etched nameplates fitted.

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?msg=867893

Quote from: cmason on Yesterday at 04:32:37 PMIts numbered 6242 (City of Glasgow) in lined-black, however its carrying 6245 City of London name plates. So I understand its not as originally passed out from Romany Works, Poole.... ( historians of our scale such as John @Train Waiting or Ian @icairns may differ in that opinion ?)

Instead of suffering the stifling heat of California in July, I am currently enjoying the stifling heat of south-west England in July.  Anyone who has the bright idea of introducing air conditioning to the UK (or ranch salad dressing) could make a fortune!

Because of my current location, I am away from my reference documents at the moment but I will check when I get home if no one else responds to answer this question in the interim.

Ian   

Some of us have air/air heatpumps (aka reversible aircon down under) and are feeling quite smug. I think it's going to get rapidly more popular than the orrible air/water stuff

Quote from: cmason on Yesterday at 04:32:37 PMFirst, SPAM Japan has just passed this Coronation Crewe via Poole machine through its heavy repair shop for replacement of a broken cylinder block:



Its numbered 6242 (City of Glasgow) in lined-black, however its carrying 6245 City of London name plates. So I understand its not as originally passed out from Romany Works, Poole....

6242 "City of Glasgow" was the only LMS Black release in the Poole era. (Ref 1811)
The "City of London" name first appeared on a Chinese made (old tooling) BR Green model as part of the Royal Scot Trainset (Ref 370-100)
So the two were never produced concurrently (and not even in the same country) so a Factory error is extremely unlikely. Far more likely to be an after-market name change without renumbering...