Quote from: Chris Morris on September 13, 2025, 05:58:46 PMA decent 2251woukd also be most welcome and I think very popular.

Ah. He talks in some code that only GWR cognoscenti will understand 

I assume you mean a Collett Goods 0-6-0 tender loco, of which Peco and UM have both had a stab at, and both are no longer available.

Bob G

1: Is there any way somebody could acquire the rights to manufacture Union Mills locos?

2; How many members here would buy an SR 4-6-0,obviously a Nelson would be favourite but an Arthur, S15 or H15 would be welcome.
With the latter 3 classes one could almost get away with two body types and choice of wheel size- Urie and Maunsell
( main difference being the cab roof and tender body )

@Dorsetmike I would personally prefer an Arthur over a Nelson but yes I'd take one of either .

Quote from: njee20 on September 11, 2025, 03:36:42 PMJust to get in early:
"nothing for me"
"my wallet is safe"
"why are we having one of those when this super niche thing I want would sell in spades"
"but we had one of those newly tooled in 1982, it's fine"

Spot on.

It was oddly prophetic of me I thought 

Quote from: Dorsetmike on September 13, 2025, 09:07:49 PM1: Is there any way somebody could acquire the rights to manufacture Union Mills locos?

Lots of wild suggestions were floated at the time Colin stopped.
All were lacking one absolutely vital element for an acquisition, which is a willing seller...

Was there today with Stu Wright - sorry we missed you.....

Despite having 5 Dapol Hall's already, I will be purchasing 2 or 3 of these.

Quote from: Bob G on September 13, 2025, 08:35:43 PM

Quote from: Chris Morris on September 13, 2025, 05:58:46 PMA decent 2251woukd also be most welcome and I think very popular.

Ah. He talks in some code that only GWR cognoscenti will understand 

I assume you mean a Collett Goods 0-6-0 tender loco, of which Peco and UM have both had a stab at, and both are no longer available.

Bob G

I would love one of those. I do keep my eyes peeled on eBay. The sole 1:1 scale survivor lives near me and is a fabulous machine.

Quote from: Roy L S on September 13, 2025, 08:18:54 AM

Quote from: Hailstone on September 13, 2025, 12:48:31 AMI think that Farish have missed an opportunity here as a King or a 10xx County would have filled a gap in a lot of Western modellers loco studs Modified hall apart, this is yet another example of "multiples of a prototype" which is unnecessary, especially given our smaller market in N gauge. I may buy a modified Hall, but will have to wait until a BR green one with a Hawksworth tender becomes available.

Regards,

Alex

I think that's the point Alex, either of those locos (King or County) would have widened a GW modeller's stud, but the Hall has a much bigger appeal to modellers generally as it was comparatively widely travelled plus of course a large class of locos with many preserved to appeal to the modern modeller, so makes much more sense commercially.

A lot depends on expectations I guess, and for the majority (especially new buyers) I would say the Dapol Hall no longer meets them, it is quite an old somewhat clunky model and way behind the curve in terms of specification. I guess you could make the same argument for the Manor, but Dapol are upgrading that one themselves!

There has also been a Hall in Bachmann's OO range for a long time whereas the County and King have never been meaning a whole new research package would have been needed. It is also the first time a Modified Hall has been available or a Hawksworth tender, meaning a wider appeal in terms of prototypes, so while appreciating some would have preferred to see other GW models, personally I think they have made a good choice.

Regards

Roy

the original Graham Farish Hall was a modified one and I added Nbrass locos etched cabsides to two examples and a Hawksworth tender to one of them plus a complete repaint for both, carving away the frames at the front of one to simulate an original one. they both won a bronze in the annual model making competition in 2011 as can be seen below.

 

they have both received new chinese chassis and are still in service.

Regards,

Alex

Quote from: PLD on September 13, 2025, 11:33:15 PM

Quote from: Dorsetmike on September 13, 2025, 09:07:49 PM1: Is there any way somebody could acquire the rights to manufacture Union Mills locos?

Lots of wild suggestions were floated at the time Colin stopped.
All were lacking one absolutely vital element for an acquisition, which is a willing seller...

Indeed, my recollection is that Colin was approached but as UM was very much his "baby" and many skills/processes only in his head rather than formally documented, not only was their no real appetite on his part to sell on, it wasn't really a practical proposition either.

@Hailstone

'HAILSTONE ON HOLIDAY'??
I dare not look in case you went to a nudist beach!

Quote from: Newportnobby on Today at 02:12:27 PM@Hailstone

'HAILSTONE ON HOLIDAY'??
I dare not look in case you went to a nudist beach!

Are you sure you are on the right topic? or are you having a senior moment!

Regards,

Alex

Quote from: Hailstone on Today at 03:36:27 PM

Quote from: Newportnobby on Today at 02:12:27 PM@Hailstone

'HAILSTONE ON HOLIDAY'??
I dare not look in case you went to a nudist beach!

Are you sure you are on the right topic? or are you having a senior moment!

Regards,

Alex

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