Of course, and to make all the frothing subside, it could always be the first EP of the Bachmann Class 66.

Quote from: Bob G on September 11, 2025, 05:24:59 PMNot quite what I was thinking of when I posted about the Twins.
How about a crab. have not had one of those in ages.

Have you had crabs before?

Quote from: Bob G on September 11, 2025, 05:34:47 PMOf course, and to make all the frothing subside, it could always be the first EP of the Bachmann Class 66.

 

Quote from: emjaybee on September 11, 2025, 04:54:51 PMIt'll be another damn worm.

That'd be more useful than another kettle, as I already have one that I use when making tea.

I'm in the totally predictable class 25/3 or some early Freightliner flats camp. A baby deltic could see me parting with some cash but not a lot else would.
Cheers Colin

FFA/FGA seems quite likely. The second run in OO has sold well again, and long rakes of wagons are even easier in N. I just wonder if they've shied away as very light container wagons don't always run well in N.

Quote from: njee20 on September 11, 2025, 07:47:10 PMFFA/FGA seems quite likely. The second run in OO has sold well again, and long rakes of wagons are even easier in N. I just wonder if they've shied away as very light container wagons don't always run well in N.

I don't know. The Motorail car flats are good. I'd have new FFA/FGAs. Rather have a 117 though 

The motorail flats have a solid deck though, easier to conceal weight. Skeletal container flats are always a problem. Their FIAs are pretty good, and the FFA/FGAs have reasonable sized wheels which will help, but I wonder if that's a disincentive for them.

I've no interest in any of those, so it's a bit moot! Not sure there's much that would tempt me frankly.

Quote from: njee20 on September 11, 2025, 07:47:10 PMI just wonder if they've shied away as very light container wagons don't always run well in N.

I've got a rake of about 10 or so (they're packed away at the moment so I can't remember for sure) of the old tooling, and they ran just fine when they were on the layout.

With containers they're alright, certainly. Many struggle wihtout. I don't recally trying the original Farish ones, because the containers were rather stiff to get off!

Quote from: njee20 on September 11, 2025, 08:58:17 PMThe motorail flats have a solid deck though, easier to conceal weight. Skeletal container flats are always a problem. Their FIAs are pretty good, and the FFA/FGAs have reasonable sized wheels which will help, but I wonder if that's a disincentive for them.

I've no interest in any of those, so it's a bit moot! Not sure there's much that would tempt me frankly.

You can always weight the containers. That's what Rapido did to their Conflat Fs for the Condor and they ended up too heavy.

Quote from: njee20 on September 11, 2025, 09:11:34 PMWith containers they're alright, certainly. Many struggle wihtout. I don't recally trying the original Farish ones, because the containers were rather stiff to get off!

There's no way I can remove any to create 'gaps' but my Western hauled 11 of the original 'Freightliner Limited' all day long at a show with no issues whatsoever

D1043 Western Duke with 'Freightliner Limited' on Heatherley by Mick Hollyoake, on Flickr

Yes, container flats with containers generally run perfectly well. However without they become extremely light. Given how many holes are in the FFA/FGA I wonder if that's been a consideration for Bachmann.

Hi

I would have thought if they made the wagon from metal it should be ok. Mine built from the Worsley Works etch run without issue when empty.

Cheers

Paul

They've never made wagons from metal before (at least not in the last couple of decades). Dapol made some of their flats in metal in OO, but plastic in N. The risk then is that they get too heavy with containers!