Quote from: Stuart Down Under on February 09, 2025, 10:35:01 PMSince Farish first produced the Mk 1 Pullmans in 2018, all I have hoped for is that someone would offer the K-type brake, so that realistic formations could be produced. Three years later Revolution added the K-types to their project list. Another 3 years on and we still live in hope. For an old bloke like me, those 6 years represented 40% of my life expectancy.

I'm not grumpy, just sad...
 

With the greatest of respect (not wishing to bring any of the previously-demonstrated bile down on my own head), I would humbly observe that the Bachmann/Farish Mk1 Pullman cars were first produced in 2007. There have been several production runs since, the most recent being in 2019.

https://www.ngauge.org.uk/bac_pass_mk1_pullmans.php

And what splendid coaches they are too. I run my rake with a maroon Mk1 BG on one end and a maroon Thompson BG on the other, which might even be prototypical. But if not, hey, Rule One applies. And they look pretty cool being hauled round the loft by KOYLI or Mallard or Scotsman, which at the proverbial end of the proverbial day is all I'm bothered about really.

PW

I have a rake of six of the Farish Met Cammell Pullmans, mine from the first batch including "Hadrian's Bar"(I am pretty sure there was a second run and that may have been 2018?) I totally agree, in spite of no close coupling mechanism they look fabulous and stand up well when compared to more recent models. A great sight behind my sound fitted Deltic, Thompson BGs are my choice of brake coach too, a bit out of place on the Great Central but then Rule 1 is your friend in such circumstances  .

I'm sure I heard somewhere that WR Choc & Cream BGs seemed to 'get lost' if they by any chance strayed onto ER metals but were then seen on Pullman services

The first release of Graham Farish Pullman cars had white roofs.  The most recent release had grey roofs.

I always thought that the white roofs looked a bit antiseptic so I painted mine grey (before I knew that GF were going to produce models with grey roofs).

Ian

@crewearpley40 those are southern pullmans. IIRC the Bournemouth Belle in the 1960s was mostly K type Pullmans topped and tailed with various livery BGs. @Newportnobby was talking about ER Pullmans.

Last I heard, Revolution were not doing the 'Belle. But I wait with breath bated... and wallet still closed.

Bob

Quote from: Bob G on February 11, 2025, 08:24:08 AM@crewearpley40 those are southern pullmans. IIRC the Bournemouth Belle in the 1960s was mostly K type Pullmans topped and tailed with various livery BGs. @Newportnobby was talking about ER Pullmans.

Last I heard, Revolution were not doing the 'Belle. But I wait with breath bated... and wallet still closed.

Bob

Thanks Bob



https://www.kentrail.org.uk/bournemouth_belle.htm


Was really looking at the BG
Thanks for the history but I didn't see any photos like the Tyne Tees / ER Pullmans maybe Yorkshire etc White Rose , Queen of Scots

https://www.steve-banks.org/leeds-
west-riding/301-queen-of-scots

Was there a Hull Pullman

@crewearpley40 I sent that Kentrail link to Revolution twice, as you could make a train pretty close to the original using six K type Pullmans and two BGs.

I don't think they have bitten, but I'd like to hope they do. Otherwise I will stick with the old Farish wooden sided ones.

Maybe I can get Ross @RBTKraisee to 3D design and print some six wheel bogies for the brake ends. Now that would be truly wonderful.

Bob

Many years ago,  there was an article in the Journal about upgrading Poole Pullmans.

It involved removing the chassis, adding new truss rods and battery boxes, and using American-Atlas? - six wheeled bogies.

I may have posted this before in this thread, but I've definitely put it on the Forum before.

Martyn

Quote from: martyn on February 11, 2025, 12:20:17 PMMany years ago,  there was an article in the Journal about upgrading Poole Pullmans.

It involved removing the chassis, adding new truss rods and battery boxes, and using American-Atlas? - six wheeled bogies.

I may have posted this before in this thread, but I've definitely put it on the Forum before.

Martyn

I know that six wheeled brake ends have been done before... and I've seen them for sale on EBay for silly money. At least with Ross printing them,, they would be the correct pattern bogie!

Bob

I bought the bogies and one Pullman to do a six wheeler but it ended up in SR green on four wheel bogies. I intend to get some of the K types to represent the Pullmans used on the Golden Arrow. Not strictly correct but they'll be much better than anything I could do myself. No hurry to get them though.....

Dave

Trix ?  did some 12 wheel orient express pullmans, but they are like Hens teeth

Quote from: Bob G on February 11, 2025, 09:16:10 AMMaybe I can get Ross @RBTKraisee to 3D design and print some six wheel bogies for the brake ends. Now that would be truly wonderful.

I could probably do that. I'd need some dimensions, drawings, photo's and I need to see how they need to be fixed to the existing coaches. I may also need someone to loan me an example coach so I can make certain everything fits properly.

Ross.

Quote from: Bob G on February 11, 2025, 09:16:10 AM@crewearpley40 I sent that Kentrail link to Revolution twice, as you could make a train pretty close to the original using six K type Pullmans and two BGs.

I don't think they have bitten, but I'd like to hope they do. Otherwise I will stick with the old Farish wooden sided ones.

Maybe I can get Ross @RBTKraisee to 3D design and print some six wheel bogies for the brake ends. Now that would be truly wonderful.

Bob

Thanks Bob G. Knew I could rely on you. Sorry was in critical meetings and Hope that the link is useful for modellers

Chris

Quote from: Stuart Down Under on January 08, 2025, 11:46:52 PMStatus on Revolution Project List now updated to;
"Order book will open Jan 2025".
 

Now updated to "Order book will open Feb 2025".
 

Hi all,

For those interested the K-type Pullmans can be pre-ordered at a discounted price now:

https://revolutiontrains.com/product-category/pre-order/ngauge/all-steel-k-type-pullmans/

We are offering a variety of sets for different regions and eras.

cheers

Ben A.