Anyone know what  the two car Bradford Portion of the Yorkshire Pullman in the 1950's was made up of. ?

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Sorry, I misread the request.

Best

Scott.

I notice that the status of K-Type Pullmans on the Revolution Trains website has changed to;

"Order book will open late Nov/early Dec 2024"

 

Quote from: Stuart Down Under on December 05, 2024, 11:09:40 PMI notice that the status of K-Type Pullmans on the Revolution Trains website has changed to;

"Order book will open late Nov/early Dec 2024"

 

Erm, it is early December and having checked the Revolution website, the order books are yet to open. For those who have waited so patiently, hopefully it is imminent.

Status on Revolution Project List now updated to;
"Order book will open Jan 2025".
 

Hi all,

We introduced the Project Development page to enable customers to check for themselves rather than asking 'what's the latest on...?' across the various platforms we use and then having to wait for an answer.

However, we don't claim it is totally accurate as most will understand that in any product development there can be unanticipated hiccups.

Our timeline predictions are always our 'best guess' when we make them, and shouldn't be taken as absolute guarantees.

cheers

Ben A.

Hi Ben/Revolution.

Any update on the order book opening for the K Type Pullmans (and I do hope you have accommodated my Bournemouth Belle info so you can produce a six car pack to run with two BGs)

Your website suggested we could pre-order in January 2025...

(I'm drooling in anticipation for the PEP 313s, by the way)

Bob

Quote from: Ben A on January 09, 2025, 12:46:05 AMHi all,

We introduced the Project Development page to enable customers to check for themselves rather than asking 'what's the latest on...?' across the various platforms we use and then having to wait for an answer.

However, we don't claim it is totally accurate as most will understand that in any product development there can be unanticipated hiccups.

Our timeline predictions are always our 'best guess' when we make them, and shouldn't be taken as absolute guarantees.

cheers

Ben A.

As always thanks.
It seems no matter how many times you post in threads like this, people still just don't get it.
Even the old farts seem caught up in the 21st Century, internet generated need for instant gratification

Well well well. Social media trolling comes to the N gauge forum.

You write a pleasant note keen to part with your money on items due shortly and in planning, and you get lambasted.

The website is out of date. I did check first.

I don't think Rapido or Dapol have such a keen following, so I'll focus my attention on the producers of green diesels and 9 and 10 foot wagons if that's what is required (having preordered 15 Yeoman bogie hoppers only last week, admittedly in an early livery, so perhaps that doesn't count).

Maybe some of the grumpy old men would like to see the promised transition era models produced before they transition to a higher plane?


Grumpy Bob

Quote from: Bob G on February 09, 2025, 10:42:53 AMWell well well. Social media trolling comes to the N gauge forum.

You write a pleasant note keen to part with your money on items due shortly and in planning, and you get lambasted.

The website is out of date. I did check first.

I don't think Rapido or Dapol have such a keen following, so I'll focus my attention on the producers of green diesels and 9 and 10 foot wagons if that's what is required (having preordered 15 Yeoman bogie hoppers only last week, admittedly in an early livery, so perhaps that doesn't count).

Maybe some of the grumpy old men would like to see the promised transition era models produced before they transition to a higher plane?


Grumpy Bob

Hi Bob

I am in agreement with what you say. I regularly check the Revolution project page to see if there has been any update on transition projects and had also noticed that the K order book did not in fact open in January as it said would be the case, but decided not to comment/query it because I too usually get some pompous and self righteous response.

That's OK because as a customer, ultimately it is we who have a choice where we spend our money and who we buy/order from and also a right to share our views and opinions.

Regards

Roy

Could it be that there's no update because there's no news?! 

I must admit that I get a bit tired of the constant hassleing of REVOLUTION regarding their product development.

You don't get that level of vitriol levelled at the other maunfacturers.

Revolution like to engage and give their best intentioned timelines. Other manufacturers less so.

So, you ZEALOTS why not cut Revolution some loose.

They are a small band and aiming to supply items other manufacturers wouldn't touch.

GET OVER YOUR SELF INDULGENCE.

GE

Quote from: GlenEglise on February 09, 2025, 09:33:48 PMRevolution like to engage and give their best timelines.

They are a small band and aiming to supply items other manufacturers wouldn't touch.

I've deleted the unnecessary and provocative text.

Revolution's modus operandi is now just as commercial as the other manufacturers. Head to head on 59 and 66 is not niche. But bagging models and not developing them is just part of the world we live in today.

Frankly I'd like K type pullmans and class 120 DMUs and I don't care who develops them but I'd like to see some response from the manufacturer as to realistic timelines.

We've had such a go at Dapol over the last 10 years that they now have someone here who interacts and responds.

Farish now tell us what's coming within 3 months.

So why do we have such long development times between promise and CAD? I've given my knowledge to Revolution to advance the 120 and in support of other projects that didn't go forward.

Bob

Since Farish first produced the Mk 1 Pullmans in 2018, all I have hoped for is that someone would offer the K-type brake, so that realistic formations could be produced. Three years later Revolution added the K-types to their project list. Another 3 years on and we still live in hope. For an old bloke like me, those 6 years represented 40% of my life expectancy.

I'm not grumpy, just sad...
 

Quote from: GlenEglise on February 09, 2025, 09:33:48 PMI must admit that I get a bit tired of the constant hassleing of REVOLUTION regarding their product development.

You don't get that level of vitriol levelled at the other maunfacturers.

Revolution like to engage and give their best intentioned timelines. Other manufacturers less so.

So, you ZEALOTS why not cut Revolution some loose.

They are a small band and aiming to supply items other manufacturers wouldn't touch.

GET OVER YOUR SELF INDULGENCE.

GE

Respectfully, other manufacturers DO receive their share of criticism where it is warranted. For just one recent example I would invite you to consider the EFE D600 "Warship" grounding issues. I see absolutely no reason why any manufacturer should be put on a pedestal and be considered above any kind of negative comment or for some reason cut any more slack than any other. Since you choose to use the word "zealot" to describe such people I would invite you to look up the meaning of the word: -

"a person who has very strong opinions about something, and tries to make other people have them too".

From where I am sitting this describes your comments just as much as it does any of the other things that have been said, except that you would wish us to comply with what you say.

From any perspective these days Revolution Trains are no longer the champion of "niche" products, the ones they choose have commercial "legs" and by their own admission do not depend on a pure "crowdfunding" model for success. In saying this I am not being critical and I do not blame them, they are now a commercially driven business and no longer solely philanthropic to the N Gauge cause, they have to make money.

With that comes an expectation from customers which is the same as for any other commercial manufacturer, so again with respect, they should be entitled to no more "slack" than anyone else.

Roy