Hi

There is a 4-4-0 kit on EBay with a Farish chassis (incorrectly identified by seller as Lima) which I just dont recognise the type or even the kit maker.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/N-GAUGE-KIT-LOCOMOTIVE-SPARES-REPAIRS/193872714427?hash=item2d23b6dabb:g:3G8AAOSwEoRgFrW4

Is it an LNER/GER loco?

Bob

It's a BH Enterprises Claude Hamilton.

BH Enterprises LNER D16 kit.

Reasonable, but very much eclipsed by the Union Mills RTR model.

Cheers,
Alan

Also looks to have a broken footplate casting ahead of the front splasher - fixable, with care and low melt solder.

Cheers,
Alan

Quote from: Bob G on February 06, 2021, 10:50:17 AM
Hi

There is a 4-4-0 kit on EBay with a Farish chassis (incorrectly identified by seller as Lima) which I just dont recognise the type or even the kit maker.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/N-GAUGE-KIT-LOCOMOTIVE-SPARES-REPAIRS/193872714427?hash=item2d23b6dabb:g:3G8AAOSwEoRgFrW4

Is it an LNER/GER loco?

Bob

Hi Bob

It is a D16 pre-rebuild with round topped boiler, I don't know the kit's origin but it is part of the BH Enterprises portfolio these days.

I have built the round-top boiler D16/3 kit from the same source but that is somewhat superseded by the UM D16/3 these days.

The big prob with the kit is that it leaves only the the loco with only four driving wheels picking up using the tender supplied with no mods.

Roy

Thanks chaps

Interesting kit, but wrong side of London for me, and as you say, the UM version would be much better

Best
Bob

I think this kit, and the B12, was mastered originally by Phil Kerr to fit available chassis, in this case, the Farish Midland 4-4-0. IIRC, the B12 fitted a 'Hall' chassis. Available as round top or (this case) Belpaire boiler.

Don't know if it was ever marketed by anybody before BHE.

I added a thin wire pickup in the tender to bear lightly on the rear tender wheels which did improve running reliability considerably, but it is now in the back of the shed replaced by a UM one. It is also fitted dcc. Mine is now well over twenty years old.

Martyn

I had one of these kits quite a while back and mine was a GEM

Bob

Quote from: Shiney Sheff on February 06, 2021, 07:51:58 PM
I had one of these kits quite a while back and mine was a GEM

I seem to recall the GEM kit was for a GCR D11 Director class.

Quote from: thebrighton on February 06, 2021, 08:12:47 PM

Quote from: Shiney Sheff on February 06, 2021, 07:51:58 PM
I had one of these kits quite a while back and mine was a GEM

I seem to recall the GEM kit was for a GCR D11 Director class.

My bad, yes it was the D11 Director 

Having won this auction, Im grateful for the information provided by those here, will help me in the attempts to bring it up to scratch! Sounds like getting pickup from the tender is fairly important...

Congrats!

Be aware, though, I think there is a funny anomaly in the tender construction. IIRC, the axles do not fit in the axleboxes (!) but in a set of holes cast into the sideframes.

I made a pick-up from paxolin and thin wire, the wire pressing lightly onto the rear wheels to give maximum length of pick-up over the entire loco chassis, otherwise it only picks up on the four coupled wheels.

If you intend to number this prototypically, refer to photos or text books-the 'Clauds' were a nightmare regarding which boiler and whether a decorated valance was fitted over the coupled wheels, or, in this case, removed.

Best of luck!

Martyn

I'll be interested to see how you get on with this. I have a similar kit in the bottom of my 'kits to build' box. I also have a Farish 4-4-0 chassis to go with it, but it has no motor so I was thinking of marrying it up to a UM tender chassis. Could be made into a nice model, I think.

Cheers,

Chris

...and you must not spend more than £40 on its revamp or you could have bought a brand new Union Mills loco fully decorated and with a decent tender drive too.

Bob

I have a BH Enterprises B12 Im currently working on that Ive successfully got tender pickup on, so hoping I can do something similar here as the tender looks the same.

This one will be about 3rd or 4th in my queue so will be worked on in a couple of months I imagine!

Quote from: Papyrus on February 09, 2021, 02:26:06 PM
I'll be interested to see how you get on with this. I have a similar kit in the bottom of my 'kits to build' box. I also have a Farish 4-4-0 chassis to go with it, but it has no motor so I was thinking of marrying it up to a UM tender chassis. Could be made into a nice model, I think.

Cheers,

Chris

I think if going from scratch this would certainly be a good way to go.

Quote from: Bob G on February 09, 2021, 02:27:02 PM
...and you must not spend more than £40 on its revamp or you could have bought a brand new Union Mills loco fully decorated and with a decent tender drive too.

Bob

If you look at my Workbench thread, I never do anything by half so cant promise!!