Those two pictures definitely show the first two eras of PGA liveries too.

The other thing I was never sure about, was the cab front always seems to be a white colour while the rest of the body and roof (and roof front face) were Yeoman silver (as if silver is a variable colour - I used simple aerosol silver on mine). That second @Trainfish picture really shows the "white" front off well, but the very first photo in this thread makes it look more silver.
I always used to think it was a trick of the light. But I'm not so sure now.
Neither CJM nor @thebrighton painted theirs white (nor did I), so what is it supposed to be?

Bob

Pretty certain it's just the rake of the windscreen area, so it reflects light differently the horn grille area above, making it look different. John's first picture shows the windscreen surrounds as the same colour as the body side.

Hi Bob,

The cab windscreen surround is certainly silver:

http://www.railscans.co.uk/picture/59003.jpg

http://www.railscans.co.uk/picture/_c57_15m.jpg

I agree the that from many angles the rake can make it seem a lighter shade!  I remember seeing this loco in the mid-90s when I moved to London, and being almost stunned by how completely different it was to anything else I'd seen.

cheers

Ben A.

I found 2 more of my pictures taken at Westbury in 198x of I believe the same train. Not sure if they help @Ben A's research into the model he will aim to release this year  I'll be ordering at least 2 in the Yeoman livery (hopefully 59 001(?) with the bell will be included) and 1 or 2 in ARC please 

I am moving my modelling slowly and inexorably towards 1950-60s periods but I would have one of these as it is definitely an iconic and stand out loco in original Yeoman silver. It set performance criteria that no UK designed locomotive could match at the time. Same reason I have an original Eurostar.

BUT PLEASE don't make Kenneth J Painter. I think Yeoman Enterprise was always the best (or Endeavour with the bell).  Thankfully like Westerns you can just ping off the nameplates and change them if you want.

Bob

My first visit to Merehead in 1988 involved going to the wagon repair shop. The car park was separated from the shop by the arrivals line.

Parked my car. Admired Class 59 arriving with a long train of PTAs. Then walked about 200 yards to the front of the train to cross the track and get back to the repair shop. It was a toss up which way to walk, but I felt happier going to the front where there was a marked walking route, and the driver and guard would be able to see me.

Silver can be a really smart livery colour. One of the silver based SNCF coach liveries used 2.5 metre high TER lettering on the bodyside. The TER was in one shade of silver, and the bodyside in a different lighter shade. Depending where the sun was, looking at the passing train side gave the impression of the TER being invisible as the train approached, then becoming clearly visible when viewed 90 degrees on, before becoming invisible again as the train continued through the field of view. Arnold and LS Models captured the effect in their N gauge models. Must try to video it sometime.

Cheers for the comments all, some good information within them.

Appears the 59's have more of a demand then I thought they would.
The Yeoman livery and 59 are certainly something I remember growing up. Used to occasionally see them rolling through Barking. Was always mega excited to see a freight train as a kid as it was mainly a passenger line so was always good to randomly catch one. Also as stated they looked very different from the other stock of the time.

@Bob G thanks for the detail on the wagons and locomotives. The discrepancies on the wagons would not bother me as my knowledge isn't that strong and I would have never have known without reading your comments. The repainted 66 looks a lot closer then I thought it would to be fair. Some good jobs.
Fortunately the era my fictional layout setting is between 1990 and 1998 so I could get away with some variation.

I am in no rush so will keep an eye on and hope for some future releases. Unless I come across one of the rare kits in the mean time.

@Bob Tidbury thanks for the additional information. I wish Ray a speedy recovery and will keep those details to hand for future reference.

The actual body of the 59s is the same as the earlier 66s (later ones gained an extra door among other changes). The differences are in things like the lights, underframe, bogies and roof detail. So it depends a bit how fussy you are, even a basic repaint isn't a million miles off. 59/1 and 59/2 look a lot closer to the 66, as they have the same headlights. The 59/0 (Yeoman) has the two central headlights which single them out as looking markedly different.

My CJM 59003 Yeoman Highlander in Germany 

Read this thread with great interest.

Personally the 59/0 has always been my 3rd favourite of the type, but would probably get one if it was offered RTR.

I have also long known of the issues with the RTR stock, but thanks to the impressive efforts of Nick @njee20 , I am now working on a rake of these:



To go with these:



Incidentally Nick, have you looked at the Yeoman JHAs? I assume the handrails / walkways are more of a challenge?

Now I wonder if lightening will strike twice and a CJM 59/2 will come my way 

Skyline2uk

I haven't, principally because Dapol do them in OO, so I'd expect them to be downsized at some point. For some reason I've always preferred the Powell Duffryn ones too, simpler!

Quote from: njee20 on January 29, 2021, 05:43:03 PM
I haven't, principally because Dapol do them in OO, so I'd expect them to be downsized at some point. For some reason I've always preferred the Powell Duffryn ones too, simpler!

Fair nuff, don't pay massive attention to 00, but your assumption would be valid when (if) Dapol do shrink the 59

Skyline2uk

The last I heard on the Dapol Digest they are talking about 2022 at the earliest for the N gauge 59.

Cheers
Mark

 Cheap 66 appears I could be tempted to give a repaint a go.

Although I move that slowly with this hobby by the time I have some rolling stock it will be 2022 anyway.

Hi all,

So only 2 months late to this.... Personally I am holding out for a 59, although as someone has mentioned there is a shapeways body out there.

There are so many differences between the 59 and the 66s I personally could not make a convincing one even thouse they share the same basic body shape (the curse of getting to tinker on real ones), the closest class 66 base model is the Farish 66546 and even that is miles away, I have counted 5 glaring differences just on the body shell and well the underframe there is only 4 similarities between the 2 classes.