Hi,
Thanks for the input. I have to agree 37's were rare traction on the S&C in the early 1980s at least. I am sure by the late 1980's they may have started to appear. The 31's seem to have appeared a bit more once the Nottingham to Glasgow expresses finished. 40122 was obviously a passenger regular though from 1983....

A bit of shopping around and you might find those 16t minerals a bit cheaper. But I tend to do to my local model shop and buy a  wagon or coach every week or so. Amazing how a rake can build up without seeming too debilitating to the wallet 

And brewer's yeast transferred by rail in the 80's. From what I remember it was pretty much consumed by the railway staff in those days....

Cheers,
Paul

Hello again,

A bit more thought (sorry, but it has been influenced by a large amounts of brewer's yeast, but seems to have actually assisted the thought processes on this occasion, as opposed to inhibiting them )

31's were surely signed by Holbeck drivers, so would have worked that Horton in Ribblesdale ballast along with 25's. Agree this train seems to be more the smaller wagons.

26's - remember them working the Warcop MOD train quite a bit, perhaps more from 1984 onwards when they were air-braked?
Also remember a pair of Class 27's acting as Blea Moor standby in 1983 or 84. I don't think on this occasion they were called upon to rescue anything.
I am pretty sure that above memories are not the affect of brewer's yeast or varieties of hops consumed earlier....

Cheers
Paul

Looks like Peco do ready to run 16T wagons as well as the kits:
http://www.ehattons.com/40411/Peco_Products_NR_44FC_BR_Butterley_steel_coal_wagon_in_bauxite_B174727/StockDetail.aspx

And not much more expensive, so think I'll buy a few of them at a time.

What type of box wagon would be suitable? Something like this?
http://www.ehattons.com/52939/Graham_Farish_373_703A_12_ton_ventilated_van_with_planked_sides_in_BR_Bauxite_Late_/StockDetail.aspx

Hi David,

The bauxite 12 ton box vans seem to be common on through S&C traffic in the late 1970s. I have a few old box vans like these in railfreight livery - seemingly no longer produced - which were common on MOD traffic in the early to mid 1980s, including Warcop trips. I guess the longer wheelbase vans 373-054 and 373-055 were also used on trips to and from Warcop too, so may suffice.
Regards,
Paul

Hello David,

Had a look at you tube Class 46 46051 on the Warcop branch 1983. Very inspirational, and they definitely used RF livery longer wheelbase vans (and the short wheel-base vans0 on this branch looking at this video. This Jake Atkinson chap seems to have some fab, fab, fab videos on you tube. Sorry, won't have time to look at this forum for quite a few days now 

Oh, and 27004 on the Warcop Branch on a railtour (40012 seeming to be the power from the south) just viewed. Maybe a bit more expenditure required to complete your loco fleet
Can't wait for the Farish 40s to appear - any bets on whether that will be before 2020ish

Quote from: davidinyork on June 01, 2016, 11:17:02 PM

What type of box wagon would be suitable? Something like this?
http://www.ehattons.com/52939/Graham_Farish_373_703A_12_ton_ventilated_van_with_planked_sides_in_BR_Bauxite_Late_/StockDetail.aspx

That or the Peco NR43B

Quote from: Mr PJ on June 01, 2016, 10:44:43 PM
31's were surely signed by Holbeck drivers, so would have worked that Horton in Ribblesdale ballast along with 25's. Agree this train seems to be more the smaller wagons.

Indeed they were trained on 31s Paul, but I don't recall having been on them when I was rostered on the ballast working. However, they did work double-headed on the Tilcon stone train to and from Grassington quarry near Skipton, which is almost on the S&C I suppose. As for what came from the North part way down the S&C, others will have a better idea than me.
Kevin

Quote from: Mr PJ on June 02, 2016, 12:11:37 AM
Oh, and 27004 on the Warcop Branch on a railtour (40012 seeming to be the power from the south) just viewed. Maybe a bit more expenditure required to complete your loco fleet
Can't wait for the Farish 40s to appear - any bets on whether that will be before 2020ish

Hmm - have to draw the line with locos somewhere! I currently have: 08, 31, 40, 45, 4x47, 55 (must be on a railtour!) and Duchess of Hamilton. Plus a green 45 which might get a professional repaint. I'm on the lookout for a 25 and will probably get a new-tooling 40 when they appear, but think I'd better stop there!

I've just acquired a few more Mk3s (well, they were on offer!) to complete a diverted WCML rake. Having lined them all up on the floor, this really is a seriously long train at around five and a half feet (Class 47, 9xMk3s, Mk1BG). Think a fair amount of compromise is going to be required here - i.e. probably about half of them!

Incidentally, do others have problems getting Dapol and Farish coaches to stay coupled to each other? The Dapol Mk3s are fine coupled to other Dapol Mk3s, and likewise with Farish Mk1s which are OK with other Farish Mk1s, but as soon as you try to mix them the trouble starts. Both types have body-mounted couplers as well.

Some nice photos on the Jamerail Flickr site including of the S&C for the period you're looking at modelling, for example:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/95430950@N07/20794253155/ (Class 25 on a ballast train)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/95430950@N07/20606254948/in/photostream/ (Class 47 on  Leeds-Carlisle service)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/95430950@N07/20784808332/in/photostream/ (Class 31 on a Carlisle-Leeds service)

Further to my earlier emails, I'm assuming that the 31s started to be used when the Nottingham - Glasgow service got chopped back and ran with 4 or 5 coaches only
Kevin

I don't know if it is still relevant but there is

Lyddle End East Goods Shed on Ebay at the moment - and its not silly money either!