I am not pre-ordering the 121 even though I would love a green one and could see a use for a blue one as well.  I admit, they are diesels so *should* be ok but having read the comments about the 125 (which I am holding off on as I don't need the extra cars and there is some suggestion on Dapol's Facebook page that the ND111 sets will be out next year...) I am starting to wonder if they have snatched a drama from the jaws of a working thing.  The other flying boxes all work fine so why change it?

I might just by a dummy 121, that way I know it will do what it's supposed to.

There does seem to be some inconsistency with the recent output from Dapol. The 67, 86, 58 and Terrier have all been met with general acclaim but the Brit, Hall and HST seem to be causing concern in some quarters (wrong coaches, grey wheels, incorrect lining, etc).

Dapol's OO LMS 10000, Sentinel and Well Tank all appear to be excellent (and the Beattie has black wheels), so hopefully this is just a blip!

I wonder how difficult it is to remove the Dapol lettering using a cotton bud and some white spirit? Fox do sheets of the correct "Inter-City 125" exec branding and numbersets.

My grumpy inner voice says that why should you have to do that after paying £140 for a model...? 

Quote from: captainelectra on August 22, 2011, 05:11:41 PMMy grumpy inner voice says that why should you have to do that after paying £140 for a model...? 

That's how I feel about the mismatch of the colours between the previous batches of coaches and the HST sets. A number of people have been saying "it's no problem, you can respray/weather them". I shouldn't have to do that!

Steve

What are the part numbers of the coaches to compliment the current InterCity Executive & INTERCITY booksets respectively? I want to make sure I don't end up with mismatching colours.

Thanks.

dapol FGW hst 125... £100

http://www.lytchettmanormodels.co.uk/page10.htm

Quote from: 47475 on December 20, 2011, 06:12:20 AM
What are the part numbers of the coaches to compliment the current InterCity Executive & INTERCITY booksets respectively? I want to make sure I don't end up with mismatching colours.

Thanks.

Good news and bad news really. The good news is that if you buy the ND212a&b INTERCITY branded coaches you won't be wrong for matching both sets. The bad news is that Dapol cheated and hasn't ever made Executive livery Mk3 coaches; they put Swallow livery coaches in the Exec set and painted the power cars the darker shade of grey to match the coaches.

i wish they'd hurry up with the buffet and tgs!!!

i have 4 coaches that match the shade of grey on the power cars, and 1 that doesn't... oh well...

i hav the swallow livery power cars, but just wondered what people think of the executive livery ones? i was kind of thinking i might get the executive ones as well, seeing as they go with the coaches, i could just swap power cars over...


tim

I love mine but the white banding is slightly too low, there should be a small yellow area between the white band and the front light cluster.



I think it looks ok but at the end of the day, can you live with it? after all, its your railway..

Dapol have shown off a prototype buffet car so they are on the horizon, I have got a note saying they are due jan/feb 2012 but I think it'll be spring time before we see them, The TGS is supposed to follow on after the buffet.

HTH

Mark

I have been comparing photos to see why the white stripe is so incorrect, but it is not that obvious and difficult to describe
I agree, basically it is too low, on the nose it sweeps upwards slightly (so that when viewed from the front it remains level) rather than downwards on the model
Compare :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28622441@N02/5050641877/#

The early liveried HST power cars did not carry their numbers on the nose however I cannot find a reference photo of 43056 in this livery to compare

However, there is a more obvious error
Look at the size and location of the BR logo and InterCity 125
It appears to be slightly loo large and in the wrong position (should be slightly further up the body)
Compare :
http://www.hondawanderer.com/43056_Wellingborough_1985.htm

I find it hard to believe 43056 was repainted into the same livery, as later photos show it in INTERCITY livery (with a replacement nameplate)

If you look at the back of the power car, the lining is a little lower than the coach next to it. This coupled with the slight downturn in the white line at the front means there is no room for the yellow, The top drivers door handle and the sliding mechanism of the gaurds door are good reference points.

Early HST's did carry their unit number on the front end, even in blue/grey livery on eastern region. Although not all carried it, some had it on the front valance in place of the set number and others carried it above the yellow, under the windscreen. The practice continued on executive power cars too.

HTH
Mark

Quote from: scruff on December 26, 2011, 07:39:52 PM
If you look at the back of the power car, the lining is a little lower than the coach next to it

All Dapol coaches suffer this, my Mark 3B DVT is the same

Quote from: scruff on December 26, 2011, 07:39:52 PM
Early HST's did carry their unit number on the front end, even in blue/grey livery on eastern region

Agreed they carried the unit number, but only two power cars carried the unit number in this livery
This was then changed to the loco number when the power cars were reclassified as locos, during the changeover period no numbers appeared on the nose
As above, this loco carried both the number on its nose and the nameplate, earlier photos are no number and no nameplate

cheers for the replies.

i'm going to look closely through the 'heyday of the hst' book i've got. i think in there it mentioned some of the variations in terms of numbering on the nose, unit number etc. etc.

i think honestly it looks on from the side, i know the logo position is out slightly, but oh well...

i would consider getting a power car and dummy set in executive if the price was right.

tim

tim,

Regardless of the livery errors, I think you'll be happy with the Dapol HST, It is a superb model and it is very easy to overlook the livery errors, IMHO of course! Just check for excess glue on the windscreens though.

£104 at hattons on special offer at the moment if that helps persuade you! would you keep the mk3 coaches?

There is supposed to be an eastern region set out in june/july according to Dapol.

Mark