Hi being a non rail expert this may be a very rookie question but here goes. I have seen freight trains averaging around 21 tank wagons or so long, is it possible for say my farish 37 to pull a train of 21 four axle tank wagons or sealion hoppers assuming i had the money to buy 21 wagons.

Dave

Should be no problem at all, i regularly run 32 pga wagons, 4 wheel hopper, train behind a farish class 56 and they are basically the same chassis.

Stu

I have two Farish 37s, one new one and one old Poole one.  Either can pull a lot.  The new 37 is currently pulling a dummy 37 and about 8 feet of wagons (mixture of 4-axle bogie wagons, coal trucks and china clay 4-axle tankers).  This includes coping admirably with 1:38 gradients.

thanks that helps all i need do is save for a rake of wagons. Is there any way i can find out what wagons make up a train types etc so i can work out what i'd like to buy.

Dave

Hi Dave - try this
http://www.igg.org.uk/gansg/index.htm#apps

plenty to read there thanks.

Dave

I have run a mixed rake of tank and hoppers behind my Dapol class 58 and Farish class 37.Both looked capable of pulling more than they were and went up my inclines without any slippage.I currently have 19 tank wagons and 15 haa hoppers.

Generally speaking,I used to see class 56's pull around 31 hoppers and class 37's pulling around 25 tanks.This was a few years ago,so now we do see class 66's pulling 30 mineral wagons or 20 bogie hoppers.I will have to count them next time I see them to confirm but I reckon my estimate is about right.

Pete

the issue is more storage than what the loco can actually pull....

for example, i can only fit in 7 or 8 coaches or 20 hoppers in my fiddle yard lanes, so that's my limit... i'd like longer trains, but compared to OO of course these length trains are very good and look pretty realistic.


tim

Tim is quite correct on the issue of length, the farish 56 and 32 pga`s, that we run on saneham tey, take up the best part of 10 feet, it does look really good when its running but takes up an awful lot of space.

Stu

Has anyone noticed that a scale length N gauge train looks much longer than the real thing ?

I think that there is possibly some science behind this question, would love to know the answer... 

I had to extend the outer 2 storage yards in both directions in order to accept full 8 coach rake plus hst power cars and long freight trains.I now have storage for full east coast mainline hst's and loco and 24 wagon formations of tta's/haa's.

On the inner roads,I have a deltic with a seven coach formation in both directions,a deltic prototype with a six coach blood and custard formation,a class 47 mail train and on the innermost roads,I have two and three car dmu's in isolated sections.

Sometimes the yard movements can be a little confusing if I'm running an intense session,with some kind of problem,albeit a train running into the wrong road or two sets running together due to me not changing all the right points to prevent this.

I'm going to have to get the fiddle yard point motors wired into my control panel so I can change two points at once so tje.points are set for that road as opposed to forgetting one point and all sorts of stuff setting off.

I try and run an intense session once a week so you'd think I would have this sussed,but no,I usually get something wrong.Still,at least all my stock gets a run out every week.

Trouble is,I want to start on the planning of the scenics but just keep getting distracted by the playability and get nothing done.I need to make up boards for the upper scenic areas at the sides and back over the fiddle/storage yards in order to plant some metcalfe houses and shops and stuff I need to build.I already have one terraced house block,two semi's,a corner shop and pub and a low relief terraced block.

I need to go and get me finger out.


Pete

I can confirm the modern bogie hoppers load to 20+, exact length differs between runs.  For a while they ran double sets with two locos to save paths on the ECML during WCML closures.  Network Rail plans to upgrade the key intermodal routes for 775m trains, which would be over five metres long in N gauge!

Quote from: bbdave on December 20, 2011, 08:27:37 PMis it possible for say my farish 37 to pull a train of 21 four axle tank wagons or sealion hoppers assuming i had the money to buy 21 wagons

Whilst your model motor (Class 37 loco) will cope with all those wagons, in reality a Class 37 would not really cope with so many sealion hoppers
Unloaded that would be fine, but loaded that would be extremely heavy and a pair of Class 37 would be required
A single Class 37 would be able to cope with about 16 sealion wagons at the most

I have a rake of 36 Farish HAAs, which can be handled with ease by the dapol 58, Farish (Poole) 56 or Bach/Far 60. All this on a layout with a 1/40 gradient. The 4-wheelers are fairly light and easy to haul...it gets a little more interesting with a rake of 14 Roco Ferrywaggons though!

The Japanese locos are limited by the length of the fiddle yard, as opposed to the train... 25 container flats are easily managed...

im in the process of designing mine. and i went for the 6" rule for rolling stock. meaning that if say a B1 and 7coaches was used the train would be approx 4' length. Its not an exact science but gives a rough solution so you can plan sidings and platforms etc.