I'd be looking at it being long enough for an engine and ten mark 1s. which conveniently fits within two flexitrack lengths. (all my fiddle yard sidings are that same length)

With the newer photos/scan of the leaflet it seems alot clearer that all of the electronics and mechanisms are at either end -

@Nelevation  could that mean that the length could be customized simply by cutting down the extruded sections, perspex covers etc?

Given the already heated discussion over what length would be best for individuals - is there an argument to have a fixed price for the "end units"  and then supply the extruded sections priced "by the foot" so people could build it however they needed?

i suppose that way someone could even start out with a 4ft unit and then if they get more space a couple of years later buy longer extruded sections from you to rebuild it as a 6, 8 or 10ft unit - a way to generate repeat business as we know everyone always wants a bigger layout!

The latest updates to Nelevator by Nelevation seem a revelation.

Hopefully the proposals suit most needs and as many as possible are satisfied with the proposed dimensions.

I look forward to more details as time progresses.

Now that the three options are being suggested, I was able to measure my fiddle yard baseboards and decide what options would be best
At worst, one long unit crossing both baseboards, and holding them together

The medium will just fit within a 6' baseboard
I can then use this for all my loco hauled trains
An exit track can also be included extending to the other baseboard

The small could also be included
I can then use this for all my DMU and locos
Again, an exit track can also be included extending to the other baseboard

Finally, the reverser track with one spare track can then run round both of them, storing the two HST

Total storage of 42 tracks, against the current 25

Quote from: mjkerr on September 18, 2015, 08:47:09 PM
Now that the three options are being suggested, I was able to measure my fiddle yard baseboards and decide what options would be best
At worst, one long unit crossing both baseboards, and holding them together

The medium will just fit within a 6' baseboard
I can then use this for all my loco hauled trains
An exit track can also be included extending to the other baseboard

The small could also be included
I can then use this for all my DMU and locos
Again, an exit track can also be included extending to the other baseboard

Finally, the reverser track with one spare track can then run round both of them, storing the two HST

Total storage of 42 tracks, against the current 25

A happy bunny until the cost?

Quote from: georgehgv on September 18, 2015, 08:50:18 PMA happy bunny until the cost?

Estimated cost is £600 per unit, plus track
That equates to the track, points, and point motors already in place
Several of the points and point motors can be removed then sold

If it provides a better solution and more capacity it is well worth it

Quote from: mjkerr on September 18, 2015, 09:19:11 PM

Quote from: georgehgv on September 18, 2015, 08:50:18 PMA happy bunny until the cost?

Estimated cost is £600 per unit, plus track
That equates to the track, points, and point motors already in place
Several of the points and point motors can be removed then sold

If it provides a better solution and more capacity it is well worth it

I could not have put that better myself, and do not forget the baseboard and time saved. Ingenious idea and cannot wait to get my hands on one.

Quote from: georgehgv on September 18, 2015, 09:26:48 PMdo not forget the baseboard and time saved. Ingenious idea and cannot wait to get my hands on one

The baseboard cost remains the same
Equally, I do not see how this saves me time, as I will need to remove the existing track, amend the wiring, cut the baseboard, construct the kit, test the kit, install the kit, test again, complete the wiring

Quote from: Jools on September 17, 2015, 11:47:47 AM
With the newer photos/scan of the leaflet it seems alot clearer that all of the electronics and mechanisms are at either end -

@Nelevation  could that mean that the length could be customized simply by cutting down the extruded sections, perspex covers etc?

Given the already heated discussion over what length would be best for individuals - is there an argument to have a fixed price for the "end units"  and then supply the extruded sections priced "by the foot" so people could build it however they needed?

i suppose that way someone could even start out with a 4ft unit and then if they get more space a couple of years later buy longer extruded sections from you to rebuild it as a 6, 8 or 10ft unit - a way to generate repeat business as we know everyone always wants a bigger layout!

That would be an amazing concept, customized orders from the website so everyone gets their perfect length!

Want to roll your own?
Here are some great ideas:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CppaVdjArPs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsFXwtoyHBA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwzyy-Ern04


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1ihI3Ojyx4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XpEvBUAKhA
Amazing!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k5Pe7t2E6M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT18-mXE6ng

CFJ

Quote from: G_N_E_R on September 19, 2015, 04:57:47 PM

Quote from: Jools on September 17, 2015, 11:47:47 AM
With the newer photos/scan of the leaflet it seems alot clearer that all of the electronics and mechanisms are at either end -

@Nelevation  could that mean that the length could be customized simply by cutting down the extruded sections, perspex covers etc?

Given the already heated discussion over what length would be best for individuals - is there an argument to have a fixed price for the "end units"  and then supply the extruded sections priced "by the foot" so people could build it however they needed?

i suppose that way someone could even start out with a 4ft unit and then if they get more space a couple of years later buy longer extruded sections from you to rebuild it as a 6, 8 or 10ft unit - a way to generate repeat business as we know everyone always wants a bigger layout!

That would be an amazing concept, customized orders from the website so everyone gets their perfect length!

I really like the idea of an upgradeable solution thank you for the sugestion. The majority of the cost is in the electronics, motors, gears, pulleys and belts so an upgrade kit really works. Its not quite that simple, but I would say that! The extrusions, even in kit form, will come as a bonded assembly with the stacker ends as its really important to assemble this module square. There is also the top vallance and perspex dust cover which would need to be upgraded but it would certainly be a lot lot cheaper than buying a complete new unit. We will definately add this as an option.

I wouldn't would like to keep the basic versions to 3 sizes as this allows this minimizes cost but for those more adventurous I could offer the basic componets in individual parts so you could cut down to suit. Maybe even a 9ft version!

Regarding cost, I am working hard on the BoM and am confident that we will reach are target cost indicated at the show. This activity is going to take until mid November at which point we will relase an official price list.

If anyone would like a copy of the technical specifications pdf please e mail me. info@nelevation.com .I would attache a copy but cant work out how to attach a file. can someone help

cheers

Best regards

Allen

Quote from: Nelevation on September 21, 2015, 04:28:00 PM

Regarding cost, I am working hard on the BoM

I guess now is as good a time as any to advise you avoid free postage

Quote from: NinOz on September 20, 2015, 03:24:56 PM
Want to roll your own?
Here are some great ideas:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CppaVdjArPs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsFXwtoyHBA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwzyy-Ern04


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1ihI3Ojyx4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XpEvBUAKhA
Amazing!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k5Pe7t2E6M


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT18-mXE6ng

CFJ

I really like the Depsito verticale. I havent seen that one. An elegant solution.

Quote from: newportnobby on September 21, 2015, 04:39:51 PM

Quote from: Nelevation on September 21, 2015, 04:28:00 PM

Regarding cost, I am working hard on the BoM

I guess now is as good a time as any to advise you avoid free postage

Yes indeed! we've had enquiries from New zealand, india and Germany. Free postage would be difficult. cheers.

Quote from: Nelevation on September 21, 2015, 04:44:21 PM

Quote from: newportnobby on September 21, 2015, 04:39:51 PM

Quote from: Nelevation on September 21, 2015, 04:28:00 PM

Regarding cost, I am working hard on the BoM

I guess now is as good a time as any to advise you avoid free postage

Yes indeed! we've had enquiries from New zealand, india and Germany. Free postage would be difficult. cheers.

We overseas folks don't mind paying postage so long as the VAT can be deducted But you will have to build your business up to a certain size before you can do that for us...

Regardless, I for one am very interested. As others have said it innovates both from an aesthetic as well as a space saving perspective. A quick question: what power source do you plan to use? In other words will those of us using a wimpy 110V AC have problems?