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Quote from: NeMo on August 25, 2015, 07:56:01 AM
temporarily -- placed a ban on high-energy acrobatics (not basic flypasts and such) and grounded all Hawker Hunters.

Quite right NeMo,
one had to listen ever so carefully to the Beeb in the later b/c to fathom that it was protem, the earlier ones were all about A BAN

re. your above bit, I think it was also a ban on vintage aircraft , not just Hunters ?? but I may be wrong and have not heard any today ( been in the hospital most of today so out of the loop so to speak, oh heck what did I just say ! )
At least I didnt hear anything about banning vintage observers !

and if a fella canna talk about whatever in General well well , whatever is one to do, I mean it isnt like everyone is forced to read it Dont mind me I just had a bad day. I'll tell in the other thread )

Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 25, 2015, 04:50:59 PM
re. your above bit, I think it was also a ban on vintage aircraft , not just Hunters ??

You're quite right to bring this up for clarification. It's a (temporary) ban on vintage JET aircraft performing at airshows. Turboprops and piston-engine "propeller" aircraft, vintage* or otherwise, are not affected and will continue to fly at airshows. Propeller planes are much simpler, or perhaps it's better to say, because jets are so complex, and generally fly faster and require better trained pilots, a blanket ban on them makes sense until the causes of the Shoreham incident are understood.

Cheers, NeMo

*The definition of "vintage jet" was not something I knew offhand. Had to look it up. It's quite complicated, but in short means any (jet or propeller) aircraft over 40 years old and not on a specific set of lists called the EASA Product Lists. If an aircraft isn't on these lists, it's up to each nation to decide whether it's allowed to fly or not.

http://easa.europa.eu/document-library/product-certification/type-certificates/easa-product-lists

Quote from: NeMo on August 25, 2015, 05:09:42 PMvintage JET

Good point thanks, one that I had missed.
So if they ever get that Sopwith Pup flying it'll be ok 

So, the interminable discussion turned ok in the end  

I do hate this tendency these days of everyone starting with "So" , , ,

So do I 

A Sopwith Pup is flying at the Shuttleworth Air Pagent  on 6/9/15

Quote from: javlinfaw7 on August 26, 2015, 03:02:51 PM
A Sopwith Pup is flying at the Shuttleworth Air Pagent  on 6/9/15

Interesting, thank you, wish it wasnt so far from me

I think that will be a replica ?
The only original remaining (they say) is one that was recently on static display at   Tickenham  Tyntsfield Estate Wraxall (SW of Bristol) and is the one that I was (a little tongue-in-cheek ) referring to.
Mind u by the time it is rebuilt to air worthy there will not be much left of the original either.
There prob. wont be much left of me by then as it has been in rebuild mode since 1970 (or thereabouts ) and it is still a skeleton !!

Edit to correct location.

The Shuttleworth Pup was originally built as a Dove ,a two seat civilian version of the Pup , it was rebuilt as a Pup in the 1930's and has been with Shuttleworth ever since. I believe there are three more examples in the uk at RAF Cosford ,Middle Wallop and R.N. Yoevilton

Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 26, 2015, 04:17:09 PM
The only original remaining (they say) is one that was recently on static display at Tickenham (SW of Bristol)

Well, what about this one ?
http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/research/collections/sopwith-pup/

Well, what about it !
I will think about passing the info to BBC "Points West" in Bristol !!

Thank you Javlin and Mike, very interesting.

I did say " I think " with a ?
and " (they say) "
my way of getting feedback from knowledgeable people ( you lot )
Sorry if you thought I was trying to rewrite history.

I had better do the same for the Western Daily Press which says :-
"A First World War aircraft which is the only one left of its type in the world "

tho' they leave themselves more wriggle room/words when they follow with :-
"It is the only Sopwith Pup still in existence which served with the Royal Flying Corps (RFC) during the First World War. "
http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/World-War-Sopwith-Pup-plane-goes-display/story-27621793-detail/story.html

Nice pic of the skeleton though !!

and one of the BBC stories :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-33957463

Forgive me for believing them all ?? lol! Didnt mean to upset y'sall
where's my flame proof trousers , , , >>>

Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 26, 2015, 06:05:53 PM
tho' they leave themselves more wriggle room/words when they follow with :-
"It is the only Sopwith Pup still in existence which served with the Royal Flying Corps (RFC) during the First World War. "

Hmmm  tricky ...

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06 Sep 16 ADD (Aeroplane Depot Dunkerque-St Pol) (via Dover). Allocated to RFC (Military Wing) as A8736 at Dunkirk (Dunkerque) but not taken up.

I guess you could argue it both ways ... the history of this aircraft is quite interesting.

and the really really dumb anecdote is :-

I knew about the Sopwith Camel,
but when I first read about the Sopwith Pup I thought it was a made-up name by W.E.Johns !
I learned the error of my ways somewhat later

Am I drifting too much ( again!) ?