Re-numbering Farish/Dapol diesels

Started by Mr PJ, October 14, 2014, 07:17:34 PM

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mk1gtstu

This is the one I have & use for my weathering,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Professional-Double-Action-Airbrush-Air-Brush-Kit-0-25mm-Gravity-Feed-Craft-/120924532383?pt=UK_Crafts_DrawingSupplies_EH&hash=item1c27a9ee9f#ht_2617wt_1331

It came with the compressor, doesn't even have any spare nozzle/needles, its just a cheapo one but seems to work well.

cheers, Stu.
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Dr Al

Interesting - thanks Stu. I don't see why I shouldn't be able to get a fairly good pattern with the RDG one - I suspect that it's overdue a new needle/ nozzle though as it's been well used in both my rail and aircraft modelling. The 0.25mm nozzle on that is a good guide.

What pressure do you spray at, and do you particularly thin the paint or do anything out of the ordinary?

Cheers,
Alan
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mk1gtstu

You should get a good spray pattern with your airbrush, it looks to be a good one.
I run my compressor at around 25psi, I use Railmatch enamel paints thinned with white spirit until its the consistency of milk & thats it really, seems to work well enough for me, I'm no expert on doing airbrushing, only been doing it for a year or so by just practising & attacking my locos & rolling stock  :D

cheers, Stu.
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Dr Al

Quote from: mk1gtstu on October 15, 2014, 06:35:28 PM
I'm no expert on doing airbrushing, only been doing it for a year or so by just practising & attacking my locos & rolling stock  :D

You have the wizard touch - there's no doubt  ;)

I can get very nice repaints with my RDG brush, and have done a fair few, but I know from aircraft modelling that weathering with it is a challenge - I've used it to do exhaust staining and suchlike, but usually it takes 4 or 5 attempts and much rubbing off of paint before I'm happy! That's 1:72 scale, so 1:148 N will be even harder!! If I can illustrate with a slightly OT example (Sorry folks, I've only done airbrush weathering on planes so far  :angel: !) :




Cheers,
Alan
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If Dr Al is online he may be able to provide a more comprehensive answer.

"We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces." – Dr. Carl Sagan

mk1gtstu

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Quote from: Dr Al on October 15, 2014, 06:46:48 PM
Quote from: mk1gtstu on October 15, 2014, 06:35:28 PM
I'm no expert on doing airbrushing, only been doing it for a year or so by just practising & attacking my locos & rolling stock  :D

You have the wizard touch - there's no doubt  ;)

I can get very nice repaints with my RDG brush, and have done a fair few, but I know from aircraft modelling that weathering with it is a challenge - I've used it to do exhaust staining and suchlike, but usually it takes 4 or 5 attempts and much rubbing off of paint before I'm happy! That's 1:72 scale, so 1:148 N will be even harder!! If I can illustrate with a slightly OT example (Sorry folks, I've only done airbrush weathering on planes so far  :angel: !) :




Cheers,
Alan

Very nice Hurricane!  :thumbsup:

I don't know about a wizard touch, I have a few disasters doing airbrushing now & then!  :D
cheers, Stu.
My Box File Layout (South Wales Valleys Colliery) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.0

Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39654.0
 
Abercwm Colliery (South Wales Area) https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=47521.0

Dr Al

Quote from: mk1gtstu on October 15, 2014, 06:49:19 PM
Very nice!  :thumbsup:

Thanks, but not quite good enough for N gauge locos yet (which are half the size remember) - a bit too grainy I think.

Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: Roy L S
If Dr Al is online he may be able to provide a more comprehensive answer.

"We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces." – Dr. Carl Sagan

mk1gtstu

Maybe its worth you getting one of these cheap airbrushes & giving it a try? It may give you a finer spray than the one you have?

cheers, Stu.
My Box File Layout (South Wales Valleys Colliery) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.0

Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39654.0
 
Abercwm Colliery (South Wales Area) https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=47521.0

Dr Al

Quote from: mk1gtstu on October 15, 2014, 06:56:44 PM
Maybe its worth you getting one of these cheap airbrushes & giving it a try? It may give you a finer spray than the one you have?

It's definitely a possibility - think I'll play first with my brush and see what performance I can get, but will keep hold of your link for future reference - shows that you don't need very expensive tools if you do things right  :thumbsup:

Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: Roy L S
If Dr Al is online he may be able to provide a more comprehensive answer.

"We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces." – Dr. Carl Sagan

mk1gtstu

Yes have a try 1st & see how you get on.
As an example this is the sort of fine spray effect I can get with mine (cruel close ups of some of my repaint projects)





cheers, Stu.
My Box File Layout (South Wales Valleys Colliery) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.0

Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39654.0
 
Abercwm Colliery (South Wales Area) https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=47521.0

Dr Al

These are all a superb standard, Stu.

Have you considered lowering your 37s? It's not so hard to do and really improves the look:



Left is standard, right has been modified.

I have a spare class 47, so it might be a choice as a weathering victim....  :angel:

Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: Roy L S
If Dr Al is online he may be able to provide a more comprehensive answer.

"We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces." – Dr. Carl Sagan

mk1gtstu

Thankyou, yes I have lowered some of my 37's since those pics were taken & it does improve them a bit I think,
the one on the right in this pic I've lowered..


need to take some better photos of them really  :-[

cheers, Stu.
My Box File Layout (South Wales Valleys Colliery) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=10430.0

Porthkerry (A South Wales layout in BR Blue) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39654.0
 
Abercwm Colliery (South Wales Area) https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=47521.0

Dr Al

Nice, makes those 37s really come alive.

Well, inspired by your works, I've pulled out my spare 47 and renumbered it in preparation for a first go with the airbrush:



Fingers crossed!  :worried:

Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: Roy L S
If Dr Al is online he may be able to provide a more comprehensive answer.

"We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces." – Dr. Carl Sagan

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