Sure, here it is on hattons website

http://www.ehattons.com/68808/DCC_Concepts_DCX_PBBVPN_PowerBase_N_Gauge_Value_Pack_use_to_setup_PowerBase_on_16ft_5_metres_of_track_/StockDetail.aspx

Scotty

i would love to see how they intend to fit these to a pannier,14xx etc

I have sent them an email, explaining the problems I encountered and asking them what models they tested it on.

I just hope Hattons will accept a return and give me a refund.......

What a disappointment but thanks for trying them out for us all.  When I say your pictures I thought the magnets looked big 2mm height? but I thought they must know what they are doing

Quote from: rhysapthomas on December 20, 2013, 07:14:28 PM
What a disappointment but thanks for trying them out for us all.  When I say your pictures I thought the magnets looked big 2mm height? but I thought they must know what they are doing

I assumed they did too, they've a good track record with most of their products. Unless I'm missing something.....?

Anyway, we'll see how they reply to my email. Feels a real con to be honest.

ones thoughts are dashing throu' the brain here - ha ha Tri-ang magnatesion !

your reed switch's will have a field day  , any thing magnetic will be attracted to the bottom of the loco - o' remember to remove the Rolex (or whatever) they are not bullet proof  !

simple answer is stick to Bullfrog Snot - one jar will do the lot - and all your friends at the club .


alan

This sounds disappointing Scotty but also a bit odd. Hattons appear to sell super thin magnets for N in packs of twenty. Maybe the base N pack suits Code 80 but the sunk into the sleepers aspect of Code 55 needs the thin magnets ?

Phoning Hattons may be better than email.

I don't think Code 80 vs code 55 will make any difference to the maximum magnet size.  If the magnet goes below the top of the rail then it will hit something every time it goes over a set of points, however deep the rail is. 

Is it possible to make a magnet-shaped hole in the bottom of the plastic fuel tank and glue the magnet somehow to the metal chassis inside?  I imagine this would be a little tricky as it would have to retain the ability to split the halves of the chassis for maintenance and also avoid making electrical contact between the two halves. 

I've had a reply from DCC Concepts, which sheds light. I'll post later.....when I'm sober!

Quote from: ScottyStitch on December 21, 2013, 11:10:18 PM
I've had a reply from DCC Concepts, which sheds light. I'll post later.....when I'm sober!

Hi folks, apologies for the  delay in updating this thread. The following are the meat and bones from an email conversation with Richard from DCC Concepts: (I've copy and pasted the paragraphs verbatim so the typos are Richard's.)

QuoteWith the N pack, as with the OO standard magnet selection, there are some the standard will fit but also some it will not. The same applies to narrow gauge, O scale or others - the final magnet selection will depend on the loco construction. ( for OO, a fret of brass magnet hangers is also needed for large wheel locos to keep the magnets close to the track).

With the powerbase magnets for ANY scale, the size and placement will vary with the locomotive. placing the right sized magnet in the right place is important. So... Irrespective of scale, the same standard magnet cannot possibly give the best result all engines even if it fitted them all - that is why we have made the additional magnet packs available from the very beginning.

All you need is the added magnet pack. The added magnet pack for N is the DCX-PBMXS pack and it includes a wide range of smaller magnets and it contains a selection that will definately allow those our locos to be fitted.

The best online reference right now is our UK distributor - gaugemaster have them all up from memory. The magnet pack discussed has everything from really tiny magnets to go into the corners of a Farish tender to thinner magnets for where there is little room under a tank loco. Its very much a "tailored for N" pack.

Yes, we are adding a special manual for N Powerbase which I HOPE will go up on all dealer websites - they tend to forget unless we remind them a lot. We will also do a special Utube manual for installation in the early new year - I have just runout of time this year unfortunately!

So there you have it.

Unfortunately nowhere on the Value Pack nor on Hattons website is there mention of the fact that there are different sized magnets for different applications. Also, as some of you will be aware, the DCC Concepts website at the moment is a bit of a mess and largely unreadable. When I looked, I certainly didn't see any mention of Powerbase.

Anyway, I've ordered the magnet pack from Gaugemaster (Hattons don't have t listed on their site) so we'll see what that brings.

Scotty

Thanks for the update Scotty, so there's still hope it may work.   

Quote from: whiteswan on December 30, 2013, 04:08:35 PM
Thanks for the update Scotty, so there's still hope it may work.   

No problem, Caz.

I suppose my next concern is, if the magnets are smaller or thinner, will they still be effective in the climb? We'll see. If it means having to use more magnets per engine, I'm happy to take the hit to make the helix work.

Quote from: ScottyStitch on December 30, 2013, 03:52:53 PM
So there you have it.

Unfortunately nowhere on the Value Pack nor on Hattons website is there mention of the fact that there are different sized magnets for different applications.

You have more patience than I, I'd be sending it back as 'not fit for purpose'.

After your perseverance I hope this works out well for you.

Cheers
Dave

I guess there are plenty of suppliers of small magnets who put their catalogues on the net, and particularly if you need lots of the same size this might be a better option than buying an assortment most of which may be of no use. 

As per my post of 21 December Scotty.

Anyway glad you got there in the end.