Quote from: Komata on December 28, 2013, 06:17:04 PM

1. At what point does railway modelling cease to be a hobby?
A. When it becomes a business.

2. Is what Rod Stewart (or any other 'celebrity' for that matter) doing actually 'railway modelling' in the form that we  generally understand the term?
A. I have never seen a standardised term for "railway modelling"

3. Does paying someone to do your modelling (and then taking the credit for what is done), constitute 'real' railway modelling?"
A. This can only be answered when a standardised term is decided upon, so back to Q2.

These answers are my thoughts only 

cheers John.

Chill out

1. When you take the hobby way too seriously and get upset cause no one answered your questions apparently

2. Building kits when his on the road as Davieb just posted

3. Where does it state anywhere that Rod Stewart pays anybody he might have lots of friends that are good at building things also if I had the money I might pay someone.

I agree with some serious discussion but not when it seems to belittle other people  that do a little bit as there are many many reasons why people like railway modelling as pointed out in the threads.

But sorry if I seem a bit harsh but your post seemed a bit harsh but what ever we ALL should enjoy our hobby that's the most important thing.

Quote from: Komata on December 28, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
1. At what point does railway modelling cease to be a hobby?

2. Is what Rod Stewart (or any other 'celebrity' for that matter) doing actually 'railway modelling' in the form that we  generally understand the term? 

3. Does paying someone to do your modelling (and then taking the credit for what is done), constitute 'real' railway modelling?"

1.   When it's either not enjoyable or you're getting paid for it ...

2.   Given the (very limited !) information we have, it would appear that he enjoys it as relaxation from the hectic events of making oodles of cash ... (would I had that problem  ).  As such, it meets one of your criteria.

3.   Let's split this : if I pay you to do my modelling, am I a modeller ?  No.  If I claim to have done what you did, am I a modeller ?  No.  Do either of these meet the information ?  No and insufficient data ...  He makes some items, and (presumably) fits them to the layout - he therefore models.  Does he claim all the glory ?  We don't know ... but it is instructive to see that he does seem to give some credit elsewhere ...

I would put a fourth question ...

Q4.   Does any of this matter to any of us ?
A.4   No 

I agree this thread should be closed due to it not working properly 2 people posted before me and could not of done unless they type at speed of light.

I think we need Stephen Fry to sort this out!  If you pay a business to weather or
repaint your stock does this mean you are not modelling, even if you have laid the track and done the scenics? Anyway I have an appointment at my local  to enjoy another hobby, tasting a few continental lagers.

Au revoir !

Quote from: Agrafarfan on December 28, 2013, 06:46:14 PM
I agree this thread should be closed due to it not working properly 2 people posted before me and could not of done unless they type at speed of light.

Since when did my RSA Typewriting skills make any difference to other people's opinions being aired, or the working or otherwise of a thread? 



Isn't this all supposed to be fun? 

Quote from: Leo1961 on December 28, 2013, 06:51:51 PM
Isn't this all supposed to be fun? 

Yes, it is supposed to be fun 

cheers John.

Quote from: Leo1961 on December 28, 2013, 06:51:51 PM

Quote from: Agrafarfan on December 28, 2013, 06:46:14 PM
I agree this thread should be closed due to it not working properly 2 people posted before me and could not of done unless they type at speed of light.

Since when did my RSA Typewriting skills make any difference to other people's opinions being aired, or the working or otherwise of a thread? 



Isn't this all supposed to be fun? 

Sorry yes it should be fun 

It's just that if you look at the posting times it looks like you and Scotsoft took about a minute to post but never mind my brain is not working and I've had a bad couple of days 

But yes enjoying your hobby is the most important thing. 

P.s Just thought I will mention that I thought Komata posted at 6.39 but he didn't he posted at 6.17 oops sorry everyone

Carry on threading

now , now every one - just admit we all pay someone else to do our modeling ... Lydle End , Sceencraft , Harburn , this list could be very long - if you include locos , the nearest many get to hand built is Union Mills .

any way hes got the dosh - like a certain xmas anthem singer who reels in a 'noddy' £300,000 per annum on loyalty's .


alan

I paid someone to type this post for me!!!!   

Cheers  Jon   

Quote from: PostModN66 on December 28, 2013, 08:55:33 PM
I paid someone to type this post for me!!!!   

Cheers  Jon   

Hope it wasn't by the word

Having now read the article I can say Rod gives credit for the two helpers he has and there are references to what and where help has been given over the 20 years the layout has taken to build. It's still not finished - sound familiar ? 

For the record (excuse the pun) The original plan was drawn up for Rod in 1993 by a then friend and fellow  modeller, Malcolm Cullimore who went on to be his personal manager. This is the third time the layout has featured first back in Dec 2007 then December 2010. Each of these following the progression of the layout.

I have read many articles on "is Rod Stewart a modeller ?" and much of what I have found does back the stories of his ability to "kitbash". I sure the press would have hounded out the truth if otherwise by now.

As to whether he, or any of us,  is a true modeller or not, I think the views expressed in this article below are probably the fairest I've read

http://www.smarttinc.com/blog/rod-stewart-great-model-railroader

Article on Rod Stewart visit to George Sellios' layout

http://www.salemnews.com/local/x602337277/Rod-Stewart-takes-in-city-s-Downtown-Train

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/north/10012433039643/rod-stewart-visits-peabody-model-train-collector/

Quote from: Komata on December 28, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
1. At what point does railway modelling cease to be a hobby?

When someone posts deliberately antagonistic questions and us Moderators have to step in and do some 'work' ?

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The questions still stand, and now that we have indicated our views about the celebrity concerned (and conveyed our displeasure towards the poster and at what he has written) , perhaps we can have some discussion and answers to the questions?

Thanks.

(Mods:  The questions I submitted were intended to promote serious discussion.  Remove/Lock the topic if you so-wish)

Considering it wasn't actually your thread to hijack in the first place, it was a friendly post by Trainsdownunder informing people of an interesting article they might want to read, locking/removing the topic wouldn't really be fair on him would it.


Paul

Quote from: newportnobby on December 28, 2013, 09:55:06 PM
Hope it wasn't by the word

Actually, with my proofreader/copywriter hat on, I actually do charge by the word.

It's not that expensive, though. Unless you want to write a novel. No one asks me to write their novel.

Don't lock this - it's all good natured stuff. Not even a sign on the horizon that Judge Judy needs to make an appearance.