I know that the new catalouge is out pretty soon (beginning of march im told), so does anyone have any snippets of any new releases yet????
I know they have announced the class 20 on their site, but has anybody any inside info?????? i just cant wait :GraFar:
No rumours about new stuff yet. However Model Rail Scotland is on this weekend so it is possible we will get some hints there. Farish tend to play their cards a bit closer to their chests than Dapol.
If you find out anything, please be sure to let us all know :thumbsup:
Would be interesting to know when items from their last catalogue are emerging e.g. Blue Pullman
Pendy - Last i've heard on the Blue Pullman is that it's set for an end of the year release. So my guess is that it'll be a Warley release.
As goes this years catalogue, i believe the following are more than likely:
- Class 105 Cravens
- Class 70
- Peppercorn A2
- The start of DCC Fitted locos.
And it wouldn't surprise me if we had a rival A3/A4 announced.
Either way i'll be happy with whatever they announce as if it's nowt i want then it gives me a year to save for something new lol.
Ollie
Quote from: Ollie3440 on February 22, 2012, 04:16:32 PM
And it wouldn't surprise me if we had a rival A3/A4 announced.
Ollie
Sorry, but I hope not. I don't like to see Dapol & Farish going head to head as it means we generally miss out on something we
do want. Farish withdrew from the 9F (some wish they hadn't) and I would rather see something else new than watch a weeing contest in the small UK outline marketplace. :(
If they are going to do a 105 then they need to do the BR suburbans in blue as well !
Newportnobby - I think it makes sense in a way, the A4/A3 haven't been in the catalogue recently and they have an 8-wheel tender drive chassis from the A1. And judging how well the Farish B1 sold against the Dapol one somehow i don't think it'd put Farish off. Plus a personal opinion is that i'd rather a Farish one than a Dapol one (Hence why i've now got a Dapol Evening Star, i was waiting patiently for the Farish one)
Ollie
I don't expect much brand new. Mostly new liveries or variations of existing models.
105: likely to be the next 1st Gen DMU but smart money is on 2013 release (just more 101s this year while they recoup the investement in that one and not flooding the market)
70: good call - I'd be suprised if there wasn't a new 'big diesel' of some sort and that could be it.
BP: Yes - last I heard was "Probably Warley"
A3/A4: Rumour was they were working on one or the other when Dapol sprang theirs - depends how far they have got, may either keep it up their slieves and wait and see how the Dapol versions go or anounce it as a 'spoiler'...
Other thoughts:
Any new big steam locos are likely to be what they can do to make the most of existing bits so A2s using the A1 tender drive a distinct possibility.
Original Paralel Boiler Scot could be done quite easily (just need to be careful of identities/dates because of Fowler > Stanier tender swaps)
Another mid c20 0-6-0 to follow the J39 (which others would fit that chassis?)
Maybe a smaller older diesel type possibly a new 25 or 31.
Quote from: Ollie3440 on February 22, 2012, 04:16:32 PM
Pendy - Last i've heard on the Blue Pullman is that it's set for an end of the year release. So my guess is that it'll be a Warley release.
As goes this years catalogue, i believe the following are more than likely:
- Class 105 Cravens
- Class 70
- Peppercorn A2
- The start of DCC Fitted locos.
And it wouldn't surprise me if we had a rival A3/A4 announced.
Either way i'll be happy with whatever they announce as if it's nowt i want then it gives me a year to save for something new lol.
as much as i enjoy speculation, when is the actual catalogue released?
tim
Based on last few years release dates literally 2-3weeks away.
Due weekend 13 & 14th March toy show Coventry.
City of Truro got to come at some point
Quote from: NtasticShop on February 23, 2012, 08:16:49 PM
City of Truro got to come at some point
I really hope so, it is such an iconic loco and ran a railtour on the line I am modelling (B&NSR) in 1957.
However it may not be a case of just putting the 00 model in the shrink ray. Farish have been using tender drives for a while now and City of Truro has a fairly small tender. The reason (apparently) for the delay of the Ivatt 2MT has been the difficulty in getting a motor small enough to power it.
Possibly the new coreless motor debuting on the Sdt 5 will fit the bill. I certainly hope they manage to miniaturise CoT as I will definitely be up for one in 1957 condition.
class 37/4s are overdue.
I'm still waiting for my http://www.ehattons.com/38749/Graham_Farish_372_676_4_CEP_class_411_4_Car_EMU_in_BR_Green_Southern_Region_with_Yellow_Warning_Panels/StockDetail.aspx (http://www.ehattons.com/38749/Graham_Farish_372_676_4_CEP_class_411_4_Car_EMU_in_BR_Green_Southern_Region_with_Yellow_Warning_Panels/StockDetail.aspx) from the last catalogue.
I have had an Ivatt 2MT on pre-order for quite a while too. On the positive side, I think the pre-order price is significntly less than the evntual release price.
Quote from: SymonC on February 24, 2012, 07:07:50 PM
I'm still waiting for my http://www.ehattons.com/38749/Graham_Farish_372_676_4_CEP_class_411_4_Car_EMU_in_BR_Green_Southern_Region_with_Yellow_Warning_Panels/StockDetail.aspx (http://www.ehattons.com/38749/Graham_Farish_372_676_4_CEP_class_411_4_Car_EMU_in_BR_Green_Southern_Region_with_Yellow_Warning_Panels/StockDetail.aspx) from the last catalogue.
Had an e-mail from Hattons saying they are expecting these in tomorrow! (with a warning that items don't always arrive when expected!)
Has anybody heard when either of these are due to turn up?
]http://www.ehattons.com/38894/Graham_Farish_377_801_FNA_Nuclear_Flask_Wagon_with_Flat_Floor_Changeover_Valve_Round_Buffers_Flask_2/StockDetail.aspx] (http://www.ehattons.com/38894/Graham_Farish_377_801_FNA_Nuclear_Flask_Wagon_with_Flat_Floor_Changeover_Valve_Round_Buffers_Flask_2/StockDetail.aspx)
....for that read any flask, not bothered on specifics....
http://www.ehattons.com/38887/Graham_Farish_377_700_JJA_Mk2_Auto_Ballaster_Generator_Unit_Railtrack/StockDetail.aspx (http://www.ehattons.com/38887/Graham_Farish_377_700_JJA_Mk2_Auto_Ballaster_Generator_Unit_Railtrack/StockDetail.aspx)
.....with these I expect all the versions would arrive at once?
I think these would be great for variety on my layout :-)
Graham Farish 2012/3 Anouncements Today:
Not confirmed on the Bachmann Website yet but understood from other sources to include:
New Locos:
LNER A2 Class 4-6-2
Class 70 Powerhaul
Class 37/4
New Replacements for former Farish (Poole) Locos:
SR Mechant Navy (Streamlined) 4-6-2
LMS Princess Coronation 4-6-2 (non streamlined)
BR 80xxx 4MT 2-6-4T
Class 55 Deltic
New Upgraded Chassis for existing body casting:
GWR 57xx / 8750 0-6-0PT
New Rolling Stock
Bulleid coaches (Types TBC)
Mark 2A coaches (Types TBC)
Mark 1 FK (First Corridor)
Mark 1 Horsebox
LMS CCT 4 wheel van
24T iron ore hopper
Polybulk hopper
So a fair amount of the speculation above would seem to be correct! (Class 70, A2, 37/4) and a few 'wishlist' items fulfilled (Bulleid, Mk2 coaches)
Suprises - the MN given Dapol are doing at the Light Pacifics (or is it a deliberate 'spoiler') though I suppose GF would want something of their own to go with the Bulleid coaches, The Standard 4MT Tank - OK a few parts in the box already from the 3MT and Std 4 Tender loco but personally I would have preferred a Fairburn or Stanier version of the 2-6-4...
Paul
Seems quite conservative on the loco front this year, but lots of interesting coach stuff.
The Mark 1 horsebox is a real oddity - it's already around as a very good kit, but its an obscure very narrow period vehicle. I would have thought the Mark 1 CCT would have been a more obvious choice.
Damn - with a Standard 5 and the Austerity on pre-order, looks like the wallet's gonna take a pounding (again ::)) ;D
Quote from: EtchedPixels on March 13, 2012, 10:45:22 AM
Seems quite conservative on the loco front this year, but lots of interesting coach stuff.
The Mark 1 horsebox is a real oddity - it's already around as a very good kit, but its an obscure very narrow period vehicle. I would have thought the Mark 1 CCT would have been a more obvious choice.
Yes, Locos not particularly ambitious but should be achievable...
Coaches - Bulleids and Mk2 add variety and should be popular. My dissapointment there is the continued lack of the 60ft Staniers...
Hi Gang;
Quite a good list..
The 37/4 will have to be a slight re-tool and the Mk2a coaches...FINALLY!!!
Watch out for loads of older 37s hitting the 'Bay' :smiley-laughing:
Be nice to see the 70 in a couple of numbers
Deltic seems to be experiencing an upsurge in popularity so a good choice for a re-tool.
No word on re-liveries....missing a trick on 57/3, DB 60 and multiple 66 reliveries.
New tooled 47 not saying much either...
Polybulk will spell the death of the NGS kit I think.
LMS Coronation could be a Rule 1 loco....
Later;
STU from EGDL
I've just seen a Facebook post on model rails pre announcement announcement that mk2 a's are on the list if so I'm well happy,,,,
Hi Stu
If it is the same as the 4mm Polybulk then it is a different (shorter IIRC) Polybulk to the NGS kit ie the ones used for calcified seaweed, china clay, lime etc rather than the grainflow ones.
Cheers, Mike
Hi All;
Looks like the 60 IS to get DB Red (60011) and Metals (60029) according to the other sources.
A different Polybulk would seem sensible....
Later;
STU from EGDL
:Class89:
All the new items and new liveries can be found on the Farish website.
For Diesel see here:
http://www.bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=farish&prod=1 (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=farish&prod=1)
Summarising the re-liveries so far;
37174 in EWS
97302 in NR Yellow
Class 170 in ScotRail Saltire (Yee Ha!!)
Class 158 in Scotrail (assuming Saltire) (Yee Ha again)
60029 Ben Nevis in RF Metals
60011 in DB Red
D1015 Western Champion in BR Maroon
25279 in BR Blue
D7638 (Cl25) in BR 2 tone Green
57605 Totnes Castle in FGW Blue
24081 in BR Blue
D5085 (Cl24) in BR 2 tone green
D9526 (Cl14) in BR weathered Green
Still missed a trick on Class 47s though!!!!
Buried in the coaching stock page is CCTs in BR Blue, Tartan Arrow & Red Star!!!
Later;
STU from EGDL
:Class89:
Quote from: PLD on March 13, 2012, 11:04:34 AM
My dissapointment there is the continued lack of the 60ft Staniers...
Not quite the same but the Farish website also has the LMS 50ft full brakes listed, though I can't see them mentioned in the announcement.
Quote from: Karhedron on March 13, 2012, 12:04:43 PM
Quote from: PLD on March 13, 2012, 11:04:34 AM
My dissapointment there is the continued lack of the 60ft Staniers...
Not quite the same but the Farish website also has the LMS 50ft full brakes listed, though I can't see them mentioned in the announcement.
Thanks.
Presumably that one uses the underframe from the NGS Inspection salloon..
Quote from: PLD on March 13, 2012, 10:40:32 AM
LMS CCT 4 wheel van
Hi
According to the Bachmann website this will be the BR version not the LMS one.
Cheers
Paul
So that's 3 diesels and 3 steamers for me (assuming I get a late crest weathered Jinty and a Coronation) plus rolling stock.
Note to boss - Dear Sir, can I have a salary increase please? :angel:
Quote from: PaulCheffus on March 13, 2012, 12:31:39 PM
Quote from: PLD on March 13, 2012, 10:40:32 AM
LMS CCT 4 wheel van
Hi
According to the Bachmann website this will be the BR version not the LMS one.
Cheers
Paul
Thanks Paul,
I was watching two different sources of information, so typically copied the wrong one :-[
Paul
Quote from: Karhedron on March 13, 2012, 12:04:43 PM
Quote from: PLD on March 13, 2012, 11:04:34 AM
My dissapointment there is the continued lack of the 60ft Staniers...
Not quite the same but the Farish website also has the LMS 50ft full brakes listed, though I can't see them mentioned in the announcement.
Including a weathered crimson version, at the same RRP as the non-weathered versions. Is this the first weathered Farish coach?
I'm very pleased to hear about the Merchant Navy, means I don't have to buy a Dapol one. I don't like to be rude but given the choice I would always pick Farish over Dapol.
I have a few Dapol locos but I just feel that Farish ones are slightly better made.
Regards
Veronica.
:A1Tornado:
I tend to agree with you on that, Veronica. I have 2 x MN's from Farish and they are smashing runners, but that front bogie is just awful so hopefully there'll be an improvement in that department.
Mind you, there's no pic on their website of the late crest version :(
Looks like we'll have to rely on Dapol for the West Country light pacific though ???
Quote from: PLD on March 13, 2012, 10:40:32 AM
Suprises - the MN given Dapol are doing at the Light Pacifics (or is it a deliberate 'spoiler') though I suppose GF would want something of their own to go with the Bulleid coaches
Probably not a spoiler really. They are different locos and I am sure people in the market for WC and BoB classes would be happy to get a MN as well.
Given the speculation about Dapol doing some Maunsell coaches, SR modellers are suddenly facing the prospect of a flood after the drought.
I've replaced the front bogies on my MN locos with N Brass ones, they make a big difference.
:NGaugeForum:
All those new 37's.... :o :o ;D. I'm going to have to find new ways of getting things through the front door because I can see at least four coming my way :evil:
Jack
class 37174 - typical. ::)
I already have the donor, the colours and all the decals to do that one. Just waited for motivation to actually start spraying.
What to make from that spare loco now, simply renumber, DRS?
Great to see the class 37/4 and class 70.
Had hoped for MK2e/f or a retool of an electric, next year then.
Do we have an actual date for when the catalogue will be available for purchase?
I feel a visit to The Signal Box in Rochester is on the cards :)
Very excited about the announcements. I'm definitely going to bag both versions of the 37 (97!), and I'm pleased they are doing a Predator (class 70) although I assumed they would after the 00 version being released.
I would have expected a few more re- liveries though, especially as Stu pointed out with the class 47's (and also being 50 years since the first production 47's rolled off the production line at Brush!)
In a way it's good that they haven't promised too much as it gives me time to save and time to buy those things off the 2011 cat that i haven't got yet. I suppose not announcing too much will mean they will deliver................ I know they have 9 months left of 2012 but dare i mention 'midland pulman' anyone ? Plus several rolling stock releases like nuke flasks.
All in all I can't wait to see their catalogue. Always shows good investment in the hobby no matter what your era or tastes and gives us all something to gossip about ;)
Had a faint hope that a SWT Blue Desiro might have been announced - as there are about three times the number of this variant over the London Midland variety.
My next (even fainter hope) hope is that Dapol announce the Pendolino or an Electrostar.
Very Chuffed (of Clagged if you prefer diesel) with this year's announcements.
Fair few locos that catch my eye:
Network Rail 97
Class 70
A2 Blue Peter
Brunswick Tornado
DBS Class 60
Plus a few more...
And also no less than 20 or so coaches to add to the collection! :D
Quote from: Pendy on March 13, 2012, 06:30:47 PM
My next (even fainter hope) hope is that Dapol announce the Pendolino or an Electrostar.
Last i heard Dapol stated they would be announcing one new Steam, Diesel and 1st Gen Unit. As much as i'd love a Pendo i don't think we'll be seeing one too soon :/
Ollie
Quote from: Ollie3440 on March 13, 2012, 06:42:45 PM
Last i heard Dapol stated they would be announcing one new Steam, Diesel and 1st Gen Unit. As much as i'd love a Pendo i don't think we'll be seeing one too soon :/
Ollie
Grim news for us current day passenger express modellers.
Glad there is stuff of interest in the catalogue for the rest of you though!
Blue Peter, new Deltics, new EE3 and Ducheses ;D. There goes the wallet again :smiley-laughing: Heaven, I'm in heaven . . . . . . . .
Marty
Hi Guys;
I'm hoping that 66434 in the latest Malcolm livery is a shoe-in for later in the year as an additional model, but missed the announcement due to the very recent appearance of the 1:1 version.
As a guide to lead in times, look what number has been chosen for the DBS 60.....
Later;
STU from EGDL
:Class89:
http://www.bachmann.co.uk/ (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/)
Have announced releases/intentions finally.
Well I've got my Dapol A4 Silver Link on order - but an A2 by Farish in LNER green is also very tempting! ;D I have quite a few Dapol and Trix Gresley carriages so moe mainline loco's to pull them are good!
However what I would really like is some suburban coaches. :(
They have gone well top heavy with 37's :Class37: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
http://www.bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=farish&prod=1 (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=farish&prod=1)
Midland Pullman announced for Nov/December this year. better start saving those of you interested. £269.99 RRP :o
Hattons probably turn out for £220 :-\
I notice the new 60s are listed as "6 DCC" instead of "6 PCB" which is nice for those of us too lazy/petrified to take a soldering iron to a locomotive.
The MkIIs are a long time dream come true. Now I just need a re-tooled 25 and 40 and a shrunk 85 and my sensible wish list will be complete.
Has anyone else ever completed their N gauge wish list? I wonder what happens? Does a big GAME OVER sign appear and we all have to wait for N gauge 2 to come out?
Quote from: Paul B on March 13, 2012, 07:53:41 PM
Well I've got my Dapol A4 Silver Link on order - but an A2 by Farish in LNER green is also very tempting! ;D I have quite a few Dapol and Trix Gresley carriages so moe mainline loco's to pull them are good!
However what I would really like is some suburban coaches. :(
Perhaps if they ever shrank their V1 they might consider suburbans, but they're not really the thing for A1 to A4s.
i would like a 37/4, a rake of Mk2A's, a class 60, and some polybulks...
i can afford none of these items!!!!
i still have on my list to buy a class 101 dmu and some class 20s...
i should have built a micro layout for shunting locos only and a few wagons... would have saved a lot of money....
Tim
Quote from: owl729 on March 13, 2012, 07:59:17 PM
They have gone well top heavy with 37's :Class37: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Just goes to show they follow the :NGF: after all :smiley-laughing:
Quote from: BernardTPM on March 13, 2012, 08:20:44 PM
Quote from: Paul B on March 13, 2012, 07:53:41 PM
Well I've got my Dapol A4 Silver Link on order - but an A2 by Farish in LNER green is also very tempting! ;D I have quite a few Dapol and Trix Gresley carriages so moe mainline loco's to pull them are good!
However what I would really like is some suburban coaches. :(
Perhaps if they ever shrank their V1 they might consider suburbans, but they're not really the thing for A1 to A4s.
I know - but I have some nice kits of smaller locos to make up that would suit a rake of suburbans!
Nowt wrong with a few more 37s to choose from - nice to see a Network Rail one to haul my coaches around with! The OO boys are getting some 47/7s this year in NSE and Scotrail, so here's hoping they go through the shrink-ray for next year :)
No more EMUs, which is a shame - I think they are waiting to see how well the CEP and 350 sell before going on to do some more. I still fancy a 350 after spending a good stretch of time on the WCML between Crewe and Nuneaton a couple of weeks ago. Fabulous units.
Mk2a coaches - long overdue and the Bulleids will be welcome by Southern fans. With Dapol doing a West Country and Battle of Britain this year, Farish's MN completes the trio. I think that Dave Jones may well be prevailed upon to re-release the Q1 and M7 again, as we could be seeing a Southern resurgence.
Retooled Class 55 - the blurb indicates that the real one has been laser-scanned, which is a surprise seeing as the 4mm model hasn't been around for too long. Mind you, it's never looked quite right to me for some undefinable reason, so an all-new design is good news. Do we have a drooling smiley?
hi all :wave:
its good to see that they are re-tooling the 4MT 2-6-4T :thumbsup:
just wished they had done the Fairburn 2-6-4T instead as there were a lot more of these around the Lancashire area
also looking at their site i noticed quite a few models have been dropped from the steam loco's
i would also have liked an all new 8F but i will have to wait for that one :(
dave :thumbsup:
Quote from: bluedepot on March 13, 2012, 08:46:41 PM
i should have built a micro layout for shunting locos only and a few wagons... would have saved a lot of money....
Doesn't have to be a micro layout. You can model most of the Cambrian coast and large chunks of Scotland with a pair of 158s, a 37 and a few wagons ;)
Alan
Oooh. Green Deltics, and looks like a date (ish) against the green and wasp-stripes gronk that seems to have been "coming soon" everywhere for ages. I'm supposed to be spending my money on tools and scenery and electronics and stuff to actually *build* my layout, but those may well tempt. And having seen my soldering attempts trying to put droppers onto track at the weekend, I'm not sure I'm up to chipping the 08 just yet...
Quote from: tim-pelican on March 13, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
Oooh. Green Deltics, and looks like a date (ish) against the green and wasp-stripes gronk that seems to have been "coming soon" everywhere for ages. I'm supposed to be spending my money on tools and scenery and electronics and stuff to actually *build* my layout, but those may well tempt. And having seen my soldering attempts trying to put droppers onto track at the weekend, I'm not sure I'm up to chipping the 08 just yet...
Chipping the 08 isn't as daunting as it seems the pickups are the worst problem ivd found little more practise you'll be ready,,,
Oh dear... oh dear oh dear.....
So now my shopping list includes a new Clan Line, Blue Peter, City of Birmingham... and that's on top of the other locos I want to buy! Royal Air Force, Standard 4MT tank, Bahamas.... maybe a Black 5. I think my bank account is in a lot of trouble!
Still, I like the look of the new lineup :)
Quote from: Pendy on March 13, 2012, 06:30:47 PM
Had a faint hope that a SWT Blue Desiro might have been announced - as there are about three times the number of this variant over the London Midland variety.
They have not even announced the 450 in 00 yet so we will probably have to wait a little while. My guess is that they do not want to risk flooding the market. If you really want to crack on there are people selling body-side decal conversions on eBay (no endorsements, just an observation).
Quote from: Pendy on March 13, 2012, 06:30:47 PM
My next (even fainter hope) hope is that Dapol announce the Pendolino or an Electrostar.
My guess is that Dapol will wait to see how Farish's Blue Pullman and Desiro sell before making any moves on long-rake models like this.
Quote from: Paul B on March 13, 2012, 07:53:41 PM
However what I would really like is some suburban coaches. :(
Alan (EtchedPixels) is working on some easy-build Gresley suburbans using a mix of 3D printing, Dapol bogies and etched sides. Apparently you can put one together in about 30 minutes. Have a look here and PM him if interested as I am sure he will be happy to know that people are interested.
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53112-2mm-coach-experiments (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53112-2mm-coach-experiments)
Quote from: silly moo on March 13, 2012, 02:22:10 PM
I'm very pleased to hear about the Merchant Navy, means I don't have to buy a Dapol one. I don't like to be rude but given the choice I would always pick Farish over Dapol.
Dapol aren't doing the Merchant Navy class. They are doing the light pacific BoB/WC class and have been muted to be doing the Mauncell coaches so it should all dovetail nicely in with Farish doing the Merchant Navy and Bulleid coaches.
Despite Poole Farish dressing up one model and calling it a MN and WC/BoB that was wrong - they are different locos;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR_Merchant_Navy_class (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR_Merchant_Navy_class)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR_West_Country_and_Battle_of_Britain_classes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR_West_Country_and_Battle_of_Britain_classes)
H.
I do realise they are different but close enough for me to chose a Farish MN over Dapol BoB/WC. I see Farish are doing the original 'streamlined' MN and hopefully once they have the chassis they will do a Rebuilt MN too.
Would they be using the prototype Deltic chassis for the class 55 or would they have to do a completely new one? I don't know a lot about diesels but I do like Deltics.
Regards
Veronica
:Class37:
The wheelbase and bogie design for the production Deltics were slightly different to the prototype Deltic.
The production Deltic bogies were basically the same as the Cl.37 when new, but sustained high-speed running caused fractures in the fabricated frames, so they were replaced with cast ones. This cast version was used under Cl.50s (which were also 100mph machines) and some 37s too.
Well i want a class 70 about 3 of the 37s and the 57 whether i'll have any is a totaly different matter but i can dream.
Dave
I was working in Sheffield today, and on the way home I somehow ended up in Rails of Sheffield!!
It was with great pleasure that I met fellow forum member Ollie by chance!! :thumbsup:
Ollie gladly showed me the latest copy of the catalogue and we must have talked about it's contents for nearly 45 mins!!
We agreed that farish had definitely missed the boat on doing some new liveries for their good 47 range especially now the 47's are celebrating 50 years this year.
We both were pleased with the announcements and it was good to see the catalogue in the flesh. This should be available in the next week or so.
Really good to meet you Ollie,
Funnily enough I left the shop with a new class 37 in coal sector and £72 lighter (good salesman is Ollie :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing::smiley-laughing:
Quote from: Karhedron on March 14, 2012, 08:58:07 AM
Quote from: Paul B on March 13, 2012, 07:53:41 PM
However what I would really like is some suburban coaches. :(
Alan (EtchedPixels) is working on some easy-build Gresley suburbans using a mix of 3D printing, Dapol bogies and etched sides. Apparently you can put one together in about 30 minutes. Have a look here and PM him if interested as I am sure he will be happy to know that people are interested.
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53112-2mm-coach-experiments (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53112-2mm-coach-experiments)
Already put my interest in those coaches on that thread - but thanks for posting it! :)
they'll probably release the new 47s next year, in the same liveries that they are doing in OO now...
just look at the OO catalogues and you can guess what will come next in 'n' gauge.
i suppose they just thought it was better not to flood the diesel market at this stage? or maybe just lack of capacity at the factory in china.
tim
Woohoo - new Class 37 in Railfreight Distribution livery! 8)
Save me trying to put lights in my old one, especially as it's starting to sound a bit dodgy when going in reverse :-\
Could do with a new Intercity 47 too but hate the full yellow cab ends of the current offering :thumbsdown:
Paul
Quote from: Sprintex on March 15, 2012, 06:13:43 PM
Woohoo - new Class 37 in Railfreight Distribution livery! 8)
Save me trying to put lights in my old one, especially as it's starting to sound a bit dodgy when going in reverse :-\
Could do with a new Intercity 47 too but hate the full yellow cab ends of the current offering :thumbsdown:
Paul
You may be lucky soon with that 47. They have announced it in 00 gauge in intercity swallow 'fire fly'.
They do often shrink them down and i think we will see reliveried 47's by the end of the year like they did in 2010 with the late announcement mag where they released the B1's
Ooh ta for that, hope so :thumbsup:
Sadly I bet we won't see a NSE one as well since toothpaste livery appears to be persona non grata in N gauge? ::)
Paul
ive emailed them to ask them not to do any in nse...
where can you pre-order the new wagons and coaches on offer? can't see them on any of the main online retailers...
tim
Quote from: bluedepot on March 15, 2012, 07:12:14 PM
where can you pre-order the new wagons and coaches on offer? can't see them on any of the main online retailers...
tim
Maybe the best way is to get the relevant reference numbers off the Farish site and then e mail your favourite source with your wish list requesting their prices first, then you can decide where to buy.
Quote from: Sprintex on March 15, 2012, 06:33:36 PM
Ooh ta for that, hope so :thumbsup:
Sadly I bet we won't see a NSE one as well since toothpaste livery appears to be persona non grata in N gauge? ::)
Paul
Not unless you live in Kenley Surrey and run an N Gauge Forum and your name starts in 'T' and ends in 'ank'. :smiley-laughing:
This certain individual even has a Class 60 in NSE :o. NSE livery will certainly live on for ever in this part of the world :smiley-laughing:
Quote from: OwL729 on March 15, 2012, 09:03:53 PM
This certain individual even has a Class 60 in NSE :o.
Never mind the 60, it's his HST in NSE livery I want :P ;D
Paul
Quote from: OwL729 on March 14, 2012, 06:23:08 PM
I was working in Sheffield today, and on the way home I somehow ended up in Rails of Sheffield!!
It was with great pleasure that I met fellow forum member Ollie by chance!! :thumbsup:
Ollie gladly showed me the latest copy of the catalogue and we must have talked about it's contents for nearly 45 mins!!
We agreed that farish had definitely missed the boat on doing some new liveries for their good 47 range especially now the 47's are celebrating 50 years this year.
We both were pleased with the announcements and it was good to see the catalogue in the flesh. This should be available in the next week or so.
Really good to meet you Ollie,
Funnily enough I left the shop with a new class 37 in coal sector and £72 lighter (good salesman is Ollie :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing::smiley-laughing:
Was a pleasure to meet you the other day, always good to put a face to the name.
All being well i'll be seeing you on your next visit to Rails.
Ollie
Quote from: newportnobby on March 15, 2012, 07:26:53 PM
Quote from: bluedepot on March 15, 2012, 07:12:14 PM
where can you pre-order the new wagons and coaches on offer? can't see them on any of the main online retailers...
tim
Maybe the best way is to get the relevant reference numbers off the Farish site and then e mail your favourite source with your wish list requesting their prices first, then you can decide where to buy.
Contacted Hattons early this am about Bulleid coaches, none on order and will have to wait until they have ordered before any pre-order is possible. Hope it's soon!
I'm really on count down for the class 37 (97) in NR livery.
Anyone with access tona catalogue know when this is released?
Anything that is imminent or scheduled for production over the next 6 months or so has an estimated date on the Farish website.
hi all :wave:
i picked up a copy of the new catalogue today
looks like there's lots to look forward too :thumbsup:
but a couple of things i have noticed after a quick run through are some of the pictures ???
no 1 in the picture of the 5MT "camelot" the motion appears damaged to me :o
no 2 in the picture of the "bitumen" 14T tank the vent is damaged :o
hope this is only an issue with the catalogue and not a sign of things to come :-\
anyway im off to have another look through and work out how many years of overtime i'm gonna have to do :smiley-laughing: :angel:
dave :thumbsup:
Quote from: davieb on March 26, 2012, 09:07:43 PM
hi all :wave:
i picked up a copy of the new catalogue today
but a couple of things i have noticed after a quick run through are some of the pictures ???
no 1 in the picture of the 5MT "camelot" the motion appears damaged to me :o
no 2 in the picture of the "bitumen" 14T tank the vent is damaged :o
hope this is only an issue with the catalogue and not a sign of things to come :-\
I can only think someone had dropped the catalogue before you picked it up, Dave ::) ;D
I got my copy today. I'm fairly happy as most of the stuff I want is not released soon which gives me time to save.... :-\
I am trying to tell myself I do not want or need a Blue Pullman and realising that only the second of those statements is true. :-\
Quote from: Karhedron on March 27, 2012, 08:51:44 AM
I am trying to tell myself I do not want or need a Blue Pullman and realising that only the second of those statements is true. :-\
Seconded... but they look so nice....
bound to be someone caught comming out of model shop fawing over one or ripping a parcel out the postman's hands, thus making Gollum(smeagol) look positively sane.
This was a favourite of mine on my old hornby 00 when a yoof. Will have to work hard on SWMBO though for the funds as I have spent a fortune over last few months ::)
Marty
Must confess to only skipping through this topic but has anyone seen this http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/forum/98-farish/. (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/forum/98-farish/.) Cheers john.
I bought the new catalogue yesterday on a visit to the West Somerset Railway. Interesting to see that a few of the old school steam locos remain (8F, 4F, and Jinty). The GWR loco section is a bit lacking - only 2 Panniers after the heading exclaims 'Our GWR range this year includes locomotives covering all operations from mainline working to shunting'. The body of the London Transport Pannier looks great, but this photo doesn't show the new chassis. The WDs and Standards look stunning and it is nice to see a 2-6-2 tank appearing in green again as these are hard to find.
Very good to see photos of the old liveried 08s. A little odd to see the class 25 still soldiering on!
Quote from: Elvinley on March 29, 2012, 09:23:59 PM
A little odd to see the class 25 still soldiering on!
Hmmm - not so odd IMHO. One of the most numerous, widely scattered of the classes. Every home should have one :smiley-laughing:. I've got 2 and have pre-ordered the next. Usually very smooth, quiet runners even if not technically correct
I have one too - they are good little locos, but I am just a bit surprised that the similar but superior 24 hasn't been converted to a 25.
Quote from: davieb on March 26, 2012, 09:07:43 PM
hi all :wave:
i picked up a copy of the new catalogue today
looks like there's lots to look forward too :thumbsup:
but a couple of things i have noticed after a quick run through are some of the pictures ???
no 1 in the picture of the 5MT "camelot" the motion appears damaged to me :o
no 2 in the picture of the "bitumen" 14T tank the vent is damaged :o
hope this is only an issue with the catalogue and not a sign of things to come :-\
anyway im off to have another look through and work out how many years of overtime i'm gonna have to do :smiley-laughing: :angel:
dave :thumbsup:
The motion only looks right on one of the photos to me. Take a look at the pickups on the 8f as well. They look upside down.
It's taken me 7 pages, but I just noticed a typo in the thread title - "Catalouge" :P Anyone else noticed that?
Anyway, back to the Catalogue discussion now ;)
Just found out through work.
'371-165 will now be released as 37407 'Loch Long' in BR Large Logo'
So to all those who were dissapointed that it was going to be 'highland region' there is now no need to be :D
Ollie
Quote from: railwaysymphony on April 01, 2012, 02:35:35 PM
It's taken me 7 pages, but I just noticed a typo in the thread title - "Catalouge" :P Anyone else noticed that?
Anyway, back to the Catalogue discussion now ;)
:-[ that's my Typo :-[ Sorry all!, I will edit title soon :-[
Remedial spelling needed for me :-\
I attempted to edit the title earlier for the correct spelling of catalogue,
However the bad news is that the poor spelling will have to stay otherwise i will have to edit over 47 different replies,
Iam very sorry for the typo, lesson learnt ::)
I know I'm not the sharpest tool in the box ::), but I have just noticed the differing prices for the various liveries.
Example - Farish WD Austerity early crest is the lowest price, late crest is slightly higher and weathered is higher still. Presumably this is to do with production run length, but on what do Farish base their assumption that the larger run should be early crest ???
Quote from: newportnobby on April 25, 2012, 09:42:20 PM
what do Farish base their assumption that the larger run should be early crest ???
i would like to know this too :P
I can understand westhering costing extra as it is in extra step in the production process. No idea why late crest should cost more than early crest though. ???
Quote from: K-N-Gauge on April 25, 2012, 10:44:19 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 25, 2012, 09:42:20 PM
what do Farish base their assumption that the larger run should be early crest ???
i would like to know this too :P
It may well be that the production run is similar but research has shown that the late crest will be the better seller hence the higher price.
Having said that Hattons appear to have the same price for both.
Quote from: OwL729 on April 16, 2012, 08:29:13 PM
I attempted to edit the title earlier for the correct spelling of catalogue,
However the bad news is that the poor spelling will have to stay otherwise i will have to edit over 47 different replies,
Iam very sorry for the typo, lesson learnt ::)
All you need to do is to edit the first post, and then the last post. That way, every reply will use the last posts title.
Quote from: SymonC on April 25, 2012, 11:12:14 PM
research has shown that the late crest will be the better seller hence the higher price.
Research! Bah Humbug. :smiley-laughing:
If they carried out research we might get the models we seek (see NGS Journal 2/12 listing what we want and what we get)
If it is of interest to any one there is a pic of the EP of the forthcoming Farish Ivatt 2MT Tender loco on the Farish Website: -
http://www.bachmann.co.uk/details.php?id=49&vis=2 (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/details.php?id=49&vis=2)
Looks raaaather nice :)
Roy
Thanks for that, Roy :thumbsup:
It does look good and I like the 6 axle pick up they mention.
Just hope the front pony truck doesn't float too much :hmmm:
Does anyone know of the release date of the 2013/14 GraFar catalogue?
Has anyone heard any rumours for the future Farish releases yet ?
Does anyone else just collect catalogues?
I bought the latest Hornby one today even though I don't model OO! (have all of the Triang/Hornby catalogues apart from #1)
I will also be buying the Graham farish and the Bachmann OO catalogues plus the Dapol one for my collections.
Bachmann normally announce their plans around March, I'm not sure which event it is at though, but it could be the toyfair.
I certainly don't throw my old catalogues away, they are a good reference book later on.
Cheers
Mark
Quote from: OwL on February 01, 2013, 09:51:55 PM
Does anyone know of the release date of the 2013/14 GraFar catalogue?
Has anyone heard any rumours for the future Farish releases yet ?
March.
4F, 2EPB and upgrades for some of the remaining old Poole stuff.
H.
Quote from: H on February 01, 2013, 10:30:25 PM
4F, 2EPB and upgrades for some of the remaining old Poole stuff.
Are those solid rumours, educated guesses or wishful thinking? ;)
Quote from: Karhedron on February 01, 2013, 10:45:36 PM
Quote from: H on February 01, 2013, 10:30:25 PM
4F, 2EPB and upgrades for some of the remaining old Poole stuff.
Are those solid rumours, educated guesses or wishful thinking?
A 4F is certainly not wishful thinking, but overall a bit of each, so yes. :D
H.
March according to Bachmann yesterday. No idea on content.
I'd guess - 70, Bulleids, 50ft LMS stock and some other shrink rays
Have a care with all these rumours - my wallet has'nt got over the pre orders for the stuff we know is coming!
:laughabovepost:
Quote from: H on February 01, 2013, 10:30:25 PM4F, 2EPB and upgrades for some of the remaining old Poole stuff.
H.
I was told by a Bachman rep to expect an upgrade of something of interest to me...
That could mean the 4F but could just as easily be the Compound, 8F or Jinty...
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 01, 2013, 11:06:03 PM
I'd guess - 70, Bulleids, 50ft LMS stock and some other shrink rays
What I would most like to see is 60 & 64 ft coaches added to the Stanier range (we're getting the 50ft BG imminently courtesy of the NGS inspection saloon)
Bachmann have just produced a totally re-tooled 40 in OO - be a shame for all that CAD work to go to waste. :)
March release for to 2013/14 Catalogue. Any exact date yet? As this month draws to a close i would be interested to see what is in the pipe line, especially regarding repaints of existing diesels and wagons??
I believe Sunday March 10th is the date to find out what goodies are in the pipeline :D
Ollie
Quote from: Ollie3440 on February 26, 2013, 11:37:44 PM
I believe Sunday March 10th is the date to find out what goodies are in the pipeline :D
Ollie
I cant ruddy well wait :toot: :headbang:...........we can all guess at the new releases, are there any early teasers of re-liveried items?
if there is a NSE 47 or mk1's in there i will throw my toys out my pram!!!!
Would love a SWT 444 but will settle for a SWT 450. Like to see a reissue of the SWT Express too. There are other EMUs that I'd like but the chances of them appearing are probably zilch
A 2EPB? I can see a 2HAP conversion coming! Lets wait and see.
Dodger
NSE '47 and an Intercity one without those hideous yellow cab ends, that's about all I need :)
Paul
Quote from: dodger on February 27, 2013, 08:00:07 AM
A 2EPB? I can see a 2HAP conversion coming! Lets wait and see.
That would be nice. I am rather hoping that they will shrink City of Truro down to N gauge now that they have a motor small enough to drive it.
The only rumour I have heard is that there may be an NBL class 43 Warship. I am a WR man so that is nice enough but not visually greatly different to the existing Swindon version.
Looking at the Bachmann 00 range (with much envy!) i would love them to put a shrink ray on the Network Rail Yellow livery Class 57. I would love to see this in N.
Quote from: Sprintex on February 27, 2013, 08:42:53 AMNSE '47 and an Intercity one without those hideous yellow cab ends, that's about all I need
Sadly not this year
When I asked at Model Rail Scotland what plans there are to add to the existing (three) modern image Class 47, there are none as they are waiting for existing stock being used up (and don't even get me started on the updated Class 37/4)
As a result I have had to resort to repainting the Titan and Rowland Hill versions as this is now the only option this year
Quote from: Karhedron on February 27, 2013, 08:54:56 AM
The only rumour I have heard is that there may be an NBL class 43 Warship. I am a WR man so that is nice enough but not visually greatly different to the existing Swindon version.
They could certainly do a 43 - their tooling appears to be slightly confused already. They'd have to offer it unmotorised too however as their main use would be in a siding or being towed away.
The NR 57 seems an obvious option I agree. They've already talked about doing Bulleid coaches and I'd put a pint on one or both of the 50' LMS coaches done in OO appearing now they have the chassis - ie full brake and maybe kitchen car.
Presumably the revised Jinty, 31 and 55 will make their "official" appearance in the catalogue and maybe the 70. Wonder if they sold enough DMUs for the 105 to get done in N.
S&D 7F would be nice (zero chance I know ;))
Alan
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 27, 2013, 12:38:42 PM
They could certainly do a 43 - their tooling appears to be slightly confused already. They'd have to offer it unmotorised too however as their main use would be in a siding or being towed away.
Alan
Have to agree with you there, Alan. According to Old Oak apprentices the 833's were better union members, one engine stopped the other came out in sympathy!
Thats why Laira kept the 800's, they were more reliable.
Dodger
Seems like what a lot of people want is new liveries on existing models - I surprised no-one bothers these days to repaint models themselves (are there no modellers left on the forum? :D ).
I'm more interested in all new products and the latest rumours I've heard are likely to be something LMS as well as new Blue Riband tooling for old Farish models (4F?). What with also shrinking down their existing OO range (2EPB?)that leaves a lot of options . . . . . .
H.
Quote from: OwL on February 27, 2013, 11:58:00 AM
Looking at the Bachmann 00 range (with much envy!) i would love them to put a shrink ray on the Network Rail Yellow livery Class 57. I would love to see this in N.
I'd quite like a NR 57 but would require a re-tool so the dellner coupling will be present. Also i don't want them to do 57312 as per OO as the real one has recently been withdrawn!
If they did re-tool it then I would welcome a DRS one too :D
Ollie
Quote from: H on February 27, 2013, 01:25:33 PM
Seems like what a lot of people want is new liveries on existing models - I surprised no-one bothers these days to repaint models themselves (are there no modellers left on the forum? :D ).
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=11277.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=11277.0)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Main reason why i dont want Farish to announce a new NSE 47 and Mk1 coaches,
I'm hoping to modify and repaint a rake of mk2's aswell to go with a Dapol 50
Without seeming greedy more EMU options would be nice, (just not a refurbished 4-CEP yet im making one of those too :D )
Quote from: captainelectra on February 02, 2013, 11:05:35 AM
Bachmann have just produced a totally re-tooled 40 in OO - be a shame for all that CAD work to go to waste. :)
Indeed, as a celebrity loco which I don't think has been made before, I propose D200, in BR Green, with full yellow nose ends, as per the mid-1980s livery, please.
I'd like it very much if BachFar could put the 1980s-era BR Blue Class 85 through the shrinking machine, too. Like the Class 70, that would be a lovely loco to have.
:thumbsup:
And the Windhoff, too...
:D
Quote from: Fratton on February 27, 2013, 01:49:04 PM
Main reason why i dont want Farish to announce a new NSE 47 and Mk1 coaches,
I'm hoping to modify and repaint a rake of mk2's aswell to go with a Dapol 50
Without seeming greedy more EMU options would be nice, (just not a refurbished 4-CEP yet im making one of those too :D )
Very nice work on the Mk1s . . . . . such work will no doubt encourage Bachmann ;D
I agree that more EMU options would be very nice . . . . particularly SR 3rd rail types and especially a 2-EPB. ;)
H.
Quote from: H on February 27, 2013, 01:25:33 PM
Seems like what a lot of people want is new liveries on existing models - I surprised no-one bothers these days to repaint models themselves (are there no modellers left on the forum? :D ).
As stated in a previous thread I would be far too picky to put up with a second-rate paint job, which is what a home repaint would be. Happier to wait however long it takes for a proper job from the factory ;)
Paul
Quote from: Sprintex on February 27, 2013, 02:06:08 PM
As stated in a previous thread I would be far too picky to put up with a second-rate paint job, which is what a home repaint would be.
Not necessarily. Fratton is making a very good and acceptable job of his repaints. You do need to practice and it's best to on old cheap models although, of course, a bad paint job can be removed and re-done. Some of the home DIY paint jobs I've seen are actually better and more accurate than the factory finish, so they don't have to be second rate.
H.
The old Farish 20 is great as a target - its a cast metal body and removable nose so both bits easy to paint. The cast body can be stripped pretty much an indefinite number of times in any strength of stripper without damage.
There are plenty of things in liveries I'd not try and paint however - SECR for example, or GWR clerestory coaches. I've got some designs for LNWR six wheelers too but I can't imagine anyone wanting to paint LNWR liveries in N !
Alan
Quote from: EtchedPixels on February 27, 2013, 12:38:42 PM
I'd put a pint on one or both of the 50' LMS coaches done in OO appearing now they have the chassis - ie full brake and maybe kitchen car.
Your Pint is safe there Alan - the Full Brake was anounced last year!
Quote from: H on February 27, 2013, 01:25:33 PM
the latest rumours I've heard are likely to be something LMS as well as new Blue Riband tooling for old Farish models (4F?).
As per my post of 3 weeks ago, confident there is something LMS in the existing range getting re-done...
Quote from: PLD on February 02, 2013, 10:58:00 AM
I was told by a Bachman rep to expect an upgrade of something of interest to me...
That could mean the 4F but could just as easily be the Compound or Jinty...
With regard to something NEW for the LMS, it would be logical to follow the already anounced BR 2-6-4T with the Stanier or Fairbairn equivalent but my 'wishlist' model would be the Stanier 2-6-0...
Quote from: H on February 27, 2013, 01:25:33 PM
Seems like what a lot of people want is new liveries on existing models - I surprised no-one bothers these days to repaint models themselves (are there no modellers left on the forum? :D ).
I'm more interested in all new products and the latest rumours I've heard are likely to be something LMS as well as new Blue Riband tooling for old Farish models (4F?). What with also shrinking down their existing OO range (2EPB?)that leaves a lot of options . . . . . .
H.
There are some still here who repaint and make kits so that they have the models they need. I have even been known to modify a white metal kit body and an available chassis to produce a loco that is not available. But in the end a ready to run always comes along. I must start to repaint my 73/0 green.
I would have preferred a 2HAP to a 2EPB but converting the trailer to a rerasonable look alike appears quite easy at first thoughts. It is too much to expect a 2BIL.
Dodger
Been watching this a while but not posted so far so here goes.
Im not holding high hopes. There has been so many things in past catalogues that still arent here so why look in the catalogues at items that may not be here for several years. Not wanting to have a go at bachmann as dapol do it too. But seems to be something that is happening more and more. and Im probably not the first to say it.
Although I will have a gander at the catalogue when it arrives haha.
Pity the class 25's are the original body style rather than the revised one.
I suppose we'll get one of those eventually though.