Bachmann N Gauge Announcements 2026-1 Incl Baby Deltic

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Carmont

Headline from this quarter's announcements is that EFE are releasing a Class 23 Baby Deltic in multiple examples.

Other items of note are two-car Class 101 DMUs in Green,  blue, and Regional Railways colour schemes, including sound examples, TPO carriages, and GBRF HYA wagons, and 8 plank private owners wagons (4 examples).


Skyline2uk

Was going to say the Bachmann announcements was poor for N.

Farish only doing new run of (sound fitted) 101s, some postal coaches, old coal and modern coal hoppers (GBRF).

But

EFE have announced the class 23 baby Deltic, which is good for some?

Actually putting some perspective on it, look at all the "obscure" diesels now being offered?

A few years ago, having class 17. 23 and 41 in N gauge would have seemed a little far fetched!

Skyline2uk

Carmont

Graham Muz on RMWeb (Kernow product development chap) has stated that the Baby Deltic does not use anything from the previously touted DJM project, which suggests that Kernow are responsible for bringing this model to EFE.

Suffolk Rob

Quote from: Carmont on Today at 10:46:38 AMGraham Muz on RMWeb (Kernow product development chap) has stated that the Baby Deltic does not use anything from the previously touted DJM project, which suggests that Kernow are responsible for bringing this model to EFE.

Every EFE box I have has "distributed on behalf of KMRC" on it so much to thank that retailer for.

Been after a green DMU for a while so that's welcome and will find a home for a 23 too.

So for me, when I add in a 46 in the post somewhere too, it's a good day to be in n gauge.

An NEM coupling upgrade to their MK1 suburban would be a welcome future move to tie in with the Baby Deltic

eddief83

Quote from: Carmont on Today at 10:46:38 AMGraham Muz on RMWeb (Kernow product development chap) has stated that the Baby Deltic does not use anything from the previously touted DJM project, which suggests that Kernow are responsible for bringing this model to EFE.

As the djm 23 was merely at a CAD stage I would be amazed if it was used as a basis, we saw with kr and the king that buying CAD's from someone else does not always work, easier to start again. But hopefully EFE will work through the DJM plans and a King and Q6 might yet appear

Bob G

Quote from: eddief83 on Today at 01:49:54 PM
Quote from: Carmont on Today at 10:46:38 AMGraham Muz on RMWeb (Kernow product development chap) has stated that the Baby Deltic does not use anything from the previously touted DJM project, which suggests that Kernow are responsible for bringing this model to EFE.

As the djm 23 was merely at a CAD stage I would be amazed if it was used as a basis, we saw with kr and the king that buying CAD's from someone else does not always work, easier to start again. But hopefully EFE will work through the DJM plans and a King and Q6 might yet appear

When the EFE class 74 came out in OO a few months ago we were told in no uncertain terms that there was nothing shared from the DJM OO class 71. The reality was a very similar chassis block, bogie towers, and design approach, with thankfully better electronics and motor.

The EFE N gauge Class 17 Clayton, Mermaid ballast wagon and Shark ballast brake van all used existing Dies. The EFE Baby Deltic might have borrowed an unknown amount from the original CAD but as we've never seen anything in the flesh, and it is not derived from any other EFE or DJM design, I would imagine the Graham Muz/Kernow magic will make sure it is more robust than the prototype was, and will last longer than 10 years on our layouts!

Bob G

Steven B

Likewise, the EFE Rail J94 claimed no links with the proposed DJM model yet if you looked at the CAD there were a lot of differences.

I don't believe Kernow/EFE bought the DJM CAD, however I do suspect the Chinese designer went off and copied someone else's work.


EtchedPixels

Quote from: Steven B on Today at 03:07:08 PMLikewise, the EFE Rail J94 claimed no links with the proposed DJM model yet if you looked at the CAD there were a lot of differences.

I don't believe Kernow/EFE bought the DJM CAD, however I do suspect the Chinese designer went off and copied someone else's work.

It's a model. Isn't that the whole point of a model  :D

It can be very hard to tell what was copied. I've seen a load of OO gauge kits and RTR models of things like the class 29 that all have the same mistake, but you can often chase the mistakes back down to all using dodgy sources in the first place. My favourite being a book that had a drawing of a class 29 directly opposite a photograph clearly showing the drawing was wrong 8)

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montyburns56

Quote from: Skyline2uk on Today at 10:06:09 AMWas going to say the Bachmann announcements was poor for N.

Farish only doing new run of (sound fitted) 101s, some postal coaches, old coal and modern coal hoppers (GBRF).



Really? Admittedly it wasn't exactly a feast of new releases, but at least they are releasing some useful mainstream items. Have we already forgotten about Toiletgate?  :D

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