Re-wheeling old Farish coaches

[Newportnobby]

I've just spent an inordinate amount of time replacing the wheels on a couple of Poole Farish BGs as it does enhance their appearance.
I now have more holes in my fingers than I get with 'Fishplate Finger'. Thrice the damned axles pinged off but luckily I have laminate flooring rather than carpet. Having finally finished after what felt like 3 days, I put them on some track and one had a pronounced wobble. It transpired one of the new axles was indeed not circular so I had to change that one. I also found that in  attempting to bow the plastic of the bogie out to aid positioning the axle it was relatively easy to move the B2B.
It's not exactly put me off doing it again but does anyone out there have a more simple method than brute force and ignorance please?

[crewearpley40]

Mick..a little levering with pliers or xuron cutters just to loosen the bogie axle.

Works a trick.  Happy to change any over if send new bogies and coach in post. Pm if need


Good luck
 Chris

[GrahamB]

I've done this with my stock.

If you have fingernails, I engage one side and then use my fingernail to prise the bogie slightly open. I use my other hand to slide the axle into position. I do this with the bogie removed from the vehicle which I achieve using anything flat. Don't lose the pin though.

[Steven B]

Removing the bogie makes life a lot easier - as Grahame says above, just be careful not to loose the retaining pin.

SB.

[Newportnobby]

I did remove the bogies to carry out the change, being careful to place the pins somewhere safe*
The older Poole stuff seems to have tougher material than the newer.

* I seem to recall someone on the forum 3D printing some bogie pins and I got some off them but I've obviously put them in that 'safe place'

[Hightower]

https://westhillwagonworks.com/locomotive-parts/225-bogie-pins-to-fit-graham-farish-coacheswagons-n-gauge-pack-of-10.html

[Portpatrick]

At one time my Farish stock had a mix of al plastic, plastic wheels on metal axles, then the pizza cutter silver coloured all metal.  Over the years I replaced wagons and coaches with whatever all metal was produced at the time. Initially this was the pizza cutters. These days nearly all my coaching stock is of Chinese origin so modern wheelsets rule. Wagons more mixed.  In fact I have now changed all the remaining pizza cutter as well.  Incidentally the plastic wheelsets on Peco wagons I replaced with NTrain metal sets.  Never had problems changing and agree removing the bogies is helpful.  I always have a handful of the bogie swivel pins in the "doofer" box just in case.  Metal wheels give freer running and collect less clag and muck.  Easier to clean if they do.

[Newportnobby]

https://westhillwagonworks.com/locomotive-parts/225-bogie-pins-to-fit-graham-farish-coacheswagons-n-gauge-pack-of-10.html

Farish also do a pack of 10 for £5.95

https://railsofsheffield.com/search?q=379-448

[crewearpley40]

20p cheaper

https://www.osbornsmodels.com/379-448-farish-coach-bogie-pins-solid-type-x10-54361-p.asp


Or if quick

https://smithsmodelrailways.co.uk/products/graham-farish-n-coach-bogie-pins-solid

[class8mikado]

No idea if its prototypical but i replaced all the 6+mm dia  disc wheels on my dapol gresley coaches (12) with 7mm ones ( cant even remember where all these came from now, the last batch were mathieson and they are very good )  which was easy enough on the ones that didnt have lightbar ready bogies, found i had to do a little filing to create the required clearance but they look better for it. The dapol wheels then found their way onto Farish suburbans which again, to my eye look better for it.   The overs i forced onto farish MK2's as these have a reputation for loose wheels - that was an utter sod as they were too tight and precious little plastic is there to be removed to accommodate, bogie pins perished/ escaped in the process requiring replacements   -  wished i hadnt bothered...

[Newportnobby]

Here's the relevant BG with the newer wheels and I think this simple(?) change makes a huge difference over the silver originals

[Dalek]

Something i need to do, good info guys