N Gauge News Diesel & Electric Poll

[Newportnobby]

I was just pleased to see the AC Railcar top that section as my WR branch line is crying out for one.
Will one get made...............................nah

[Woodenhead]

Point of information: 117s were 3 cars, not 4.

My bad

[Woodenhead]

The Twins may be considered niche-but the ochre D5579 was even more so..........

And we have to remember this is just a poll/wish list, not the order any manufacturer is likely to release the models. Timescale-if ever!

Perhaps if the top four are in the Bachmann OO range, sales in that scale might have influenced their release in N-or not released. It's been said before that Bachmann have number of items in OO which many have hoped would be scaled down, but few have made it so far.

Martyn

But the class 31 as a model exists, unique livery on an existing model is very different from tooling up an entire locomotive.

I know it's just a poll and hopefully Bachmann are watching, it may or may not influence them, who knows there might even be a Peak coming from them in 2023.

Personally, the 25/3 is the one I would want mostly.

[martyn]

The Twins may be considered niche-but the ochre D5579 was even more so..........

And we have to remember this is just a poll/wish list, not the order any manufacturer is likely to release the models. Timescale-if ever!

Perhaps if the top four are in the Bachmann OO range, sales in that scale might have influenced their release in N-or not released. It's been said before that Bachmann have number of items in OO which many have hoped would be scaled down, but few have made it so far.

Martyn

But the class 31 as a model exists, unique livery on an existing model is very different from tooling up an entire locomotive.

I know it's just a poll and hopefully Bachmann are watching, it may or may not influence them, who knows there might even be a Peak coming from them in 2023.

Personally, the 25/3 is the one I would want mostly.

Very true about the 31 being a repaint of an existing loco, and not a brand new model.

I hadn't factored that in, just the 'niche' part.

Martyn

[Steven B]

@TomE Thanks for running the poll.

What happened to the class 104 and 110 DMU? I remember voting for them but they're not in the extended results.

It'd be interesting to add up the votes from each section. Would votes for EMU's be greater than DMUs? Are mainline locos more popular than shunters. Can any section take on the apparent might of the LMS twins?!

Whilst you're working on the steam poll (good luck!), can you also consider asking what we'd like re-running from the existing catalogues. I can't remember the last time I saw a new Mk1 SK in the shops in a common livery and I can't be the only one wanting more liveries on existing models.

Steven B.

[pinball]

Whilst you're working on the steam poll (good luck!), can you also consider asking what we'd like re-running from the existing catalogues. I can't remember the last time I saw a new Mk1 SK in the shops in a common livery and I can't be the only one wanting more liveries on existing models.

A multi pack of 4 Mark 2A and 4 Mark 2f TSO coaches in the usual liveries wouldn't go amiss either. I am fairly sure these would sell very well. Plenty of BSOs, catering vehicles and FOs still around and even on sale in some places to pair them with. Building up decent rakes of standard class coaching stock seems to be the hardest thing to do currently.

Shame the APT-E didn't seem too popular in the list, given the popularity of the OO gauge model. I suspect however that's why Revolution knocked the idea on the head. 25/3, 205 and first generation DMUs are possibly the things I am most interested in otherwise.

On pure obscure stuff the gas turbine 18000 loco as far as I can see was the only omission on the survey, but again probably not something with mass appeal! I'd buy one however! And it's at Didcot to photograph and measure...

[TomE]

@TomE Thanks for running the poll.

What happened to the class 104 and 110 DMU? I remember voting for them but they're not in the extended results.

It'd be interesting to add up the votes from each section. Would votes for EMU's be greater than DMUs? Are mainline locos more popular than shunters. Can any section take on the apparent might of the LMS twins?!

Whilst you're working on the steam poll (good luck!), can you also consider asking what we'd like re-running from the existing catalogues. I can't remember the last time I saw a new Mk1 SK in the shops in a common livery and I can't be the only one wanting more liveries on existing models.

Steven B.

And the metaphorical prize goes to Steven B, for spotting the two DMU classes I missed! I've updated the full results sheet to include the 104 & 110 so if you re-download they should be included now.

Not sure if rolling stock will be included with the Steam poll, that may follow separately, but will certainly include something about re-issues.

Tom.

[Skyline2uk]

A multi pack of 4 Mark 2A and 4 Mark 2f TSO coaches in the usual liveries wouldn't go amiss either. I am fairly sure these would sell very well. Plenty of BSOs, catering vehicles and FOs still around and even on sale in some places to pair them with. Building up decent rakes of standard class coaching stock seems to be the hardest thing to do currently.

Agree on the multipacks, possibly 5x TSOs for cross-country rakes.

At the very least do a re-run with 5x more TSOs made than the other types. It didn't take a rocket scientist to predict the current over-stock of BSOs, TFs and Buffets. Heck even I predicted it.

So the top 4 are all in the Bachmann OO stable, could that have influenced voting and they also have the 105.

Didn't Cavalex consider the 91 in N, but without the OO model that has to be dead in the water?

If I was a betting man the most likely to come are the class 25/3 and the class 105 (in two carriage form).  A four coach 117 would be expensive and the Twins might be deemed too niche although we did once see a Deltic prototype, the 205 may be consigned to the 'we tried SR' bin.

Yep Cavalex looked at the 91/MK4s/DVTs. Even I would consider a 91 just so I could have a go at the 91/Class 43 (buffers) combo.

However I honestly think that is far too much of a gamble for anybody to do now, especially as the 90s were announced and arrived in just over 3 months. Frankly this could now apply to anything in 00 done by Bachmann.

Skyline2uk

[GlenEglise]

Not a great poll result as far as I am concerned except perhaps the 25/3

Still happy to await

Class 21/29 eventually being released by someone, a must for Scottish transition era. Also was trialed in Englandshire.

Class 100 DMU would have been nice.

Stanier porthole coaches to go with the other Farish ones?

I forgot to also suggest a BR Standard Six, "CLAN CLASS" particularly Clan McGregor.

Nice to see the railcars being mentioned. Got my Wickham one from Etched Pixels luckily.

Nice to one day see a Caledonian Railway "Jumbo" not too far a stretch from the Farish C Class released a few years ago. These ran for the best part of 80 or 90 years!!

I guess some will say these are "niche" markets.

GE

[jpendle]

I think the biggest take away from the poll is that none of the winners got more then 50% of the vote, and in some categories there wasn't much difference between the top 3 or 4.

All the most obvious stuff has been done and redone many times. which just leaves relatively niche prototypes by comparison.

I wouldn't like to be a manufacturer betting on any of the poll winners, it must be a tough decision making process.

Regards,

John P

[Woodenhead]

@Skyline2uk don't forget that behind the three months from announcement to delivery is a couple of years development.

Whatever we see in the next 12 months that is new will be several years down the line from when the project had been kicked off by Bachmann.

Looking at the items that were high polling none are probably a surprise to Bachmann and hopefully some are already in the pipeline.

[Steven B]

I've updated the full results sheet to include the 104 & 110 so if you re-download they should be included now.

Thanks Tom.

I'm amazed they both got less votes than the class 141.
Also less than the class 139 - only used on a 0.8mile single track branch line!

Steven B.

[bluedepot]

I think class 141, 143, 144 would be good to have in n gauge!

anyway I think there are quite a few things on the list that would be commercially viable so look forward to what the manufacturer's announce this year!

I would prefer more useful items to niche prototypes, although I like everything!

come on bachmann get on with class 25/3 and 24/1 !!


tim

[pinball]

I certainly think a 143 may be a reasonable option - they did cover North East England, Wales and the West Country so have plenty of potential. The 142s after all seem to be popular models.

[davidinyork]

I certainly think a 143 may be a reasonable option - they did cover North East England, Wales and the West Country so have plenty of potential. The 142s after all seem to be popular models.

The 143 and 144 are so similar that any manufacturer doing them could tool for both. Most notable difference is that some of the 144s have a centre car, but if that proved too expensive they could just do the 2-car version.