Moral dilemma....

jpendle · November 15, 2021, 01:37:57 PM

Quote from: njee20 on November 15, 2021, 01:32:50 PM
because I like data.

I prefer Counsellor Troy myself

John P

Newportnobby · November 15, 2021, 03:29:03 PM

Quote from: jpendle on November 15, 2021, 01:37:57 PM
Quote from: njee20 on November 15, 2021, 01:32:50 PM
because I like data.

I prefer Counsellor Troy myself

John P

Dr Beverly Crusher can come and take my readings any time!

emjaybee · November 15, 2021, 04:42:21 PM

As I'm the OP I was considering flagging 'off topic', but I'm interested to see where the Forum elders and faux Americans are going with this.

njee20 · November 15, 2021, 04:46:09 PM

I think that's a Star Trek joke...? I'm out of my depth

emjaybee · November 15, 2021, 05:27:57 PM

Quote from: njee20 on November 15, 2021, 04:46:09 PM
I think that's a Star Trek joke...? I'm out of my depth

You are correct. I'm just curious to see where this tangent is going to end up!

jpendle · November 15, 2021, 06:23:08 PM

Quote from: Intercity on November 15, 2021, 06:11:50 PM
If you have a shelf or small space to one side of a room some like Sutton St Annes, small fiddle yard and the equivalent of the north west "club" trains the served Liverpool, Blackpool, New St and the North Wales coast (class 31,37 and 4 or 5 mk2s in blue/grey, NSE or regional railways)

Not just drift, but bleed over from parallel ~~universes~~ threads.

John P

njee20 · November 15, 2021, 07:33:03 PM

You may want to at least tell them where it should have gone. Report it. Or much more easily just delete your own post and put it in the right place!

daffy · November 15, 2021, 08:41:41 PM

I don't have a smart meter, having told EoN a few million times (hyperbole makes me feel good) I don't want one. As revenge for them ignoring my pleas to be left alone with my standard meter I went green. Or more properly, Green. Green wanted me to have a smart meter one day. But then they went bust in September. Since then I've heard I'm now with Shell Energy, but so far no meaningful contact other than the tariff name. I wonder if they'll want me to have a smart meter?

Thing is, you see, is that I have a device of my own that works very well to keep a check on our electricity usage. It's not connected to the mains - God forbid! - and so far has not needed any replacement parts or re-boots. It also has many other functions (too many to list here) and is good at many, not so good at others, and fails dismally as a language translation device.
They are not generally on sale but if you get a good one hold on to it.

So far in my life it must have saved me thousands of £££s worth of electricity.

I recommend everybody uses one for this and in all manner of other ways to help us through the climate crisis.

Newportnobby · November 15, 2021, 09:19:55 PM

Quote from: daffy on November 15, 2021, 08:41:41 PM
I don't have a smart meter, having told EoN a few million times (hyperbole makes me feel good) I don't want one.

The crazy thing is I've had smart meters for years from EoN. The first year the gas meter didn't work at all and they never twigged I'd used no gas so I had free central heating for a year.
This year EoN moved to become EoN Next. They rang me to see if I wanted smart meters and I said "Yes" only for the loony on the other end of the phone to say "Sorry, but we don't have any at present as the old ones are not compatible with our new systems. Maybe by the end of 2021"
So I'm back to the old 'check your own reading and phone it through' malarkey

emjaybee · November 15, 2021, 09:21:08 PM

Quote from: Newportnobby on November 15, 2021, 09:19:55 PM
Quote from: daffy on November 15, 2021, 08:41:41 PM
I don't have a smart meter, having told EoN a few million times (hyperbole makes me feel good) I don't want one.

The crazy thing is I've had smart meters for years from EoN. The first year the gas meter didn't work at all and they never twigged I'd used no gas so I had free central heating for a year.
This year EoN moved to become EoN Next. They rang me to see if I wanted smart meters and I said "Yes" only for the loony on the other end of the phone to say "Sorry, but we don't have any at present as the old ones are not compatible with our new systems. Maybe by the end of 2021"
So I'm back to the old 'check your own reading and phone it through' malarkey

Smart.

The Q · November 19, 2021, 02:27:47 PM

We enter our meter data on our page on the Eon Site.
Smart meters won't work for us because.

A. The meter is in a brick built cupboard, so well screened.
B, Mobile phones don't work here anyway..

Oh don't people want smart meters?
Because it'll likely they will bring in load charging..
I.e. when the load is high on the electricity network, they will increase the price.. (some commercial users have been on this for years) It's very likely this will happen once electric cars come in fully, as the network is way behind coping with the expected full load. So the only way is to reduce users at high load periods..

Yet_Another · November 19, 2021, 02:50:13 PM

Actually, as smart meters can be turned off remotely, it just needs a state actor with sufficient leverage to hack the IT systems of the supply companies and remotely cut off whole cities, presumably.

Whatever. I'm not happy about the prospect of anyone being able to cut off my fuel at the touch of a screen.

Newportnobby · November 19, 2021, 02:51:53 PM

Bring back 'Economy 7' so when we all have to charge our electric golf carts overnight we shouldn't pay through the nose for it

Trainfish · November 19, 2021, 03:36:49 PM

Quote from: Yet_Another on November 15, 2021, 12:16:39 PM
Our electric smart meter, fitted in the summer, is excellent. It doesn't talk to the power company, so they don't know how much we're using. It also doesn't talk to the remote display, or respond in any way to the buttons on the front of the meter itself, so we don't know how much we're using either.

Are you sure it was fitted? Sounds like it's still in the box to me