Bachmann Farish Autumn Announcements

[njee20]

Yes I'm not 'waiting' on anything from Farish, which perhaps drives my apathy! These days I'm more waiting with bated breath to find if they've duplicated a model I've spent months finessing a 3D print of!

A 90 is the only thing I'd like to see from them which I think is a genuine chance.

[osborns]

NGS-PO said a shed load of Mk1s to complete my rakes, but there aren't any to buy.
Which ones are you wanting, is it Maroon or is it Choc/cream? If so we could compile a list and I will submit it to Bachmann and see if we can influence some future production. The trouble is nobody else is going to make the Mk1's so there is no urgency to protect their potential market share but if we don't ask we will just have to wait in line.

[NGS-PO]

NGS-PO said a shed load of Mk1s to complete my rakes, but there aren't any to buy.
Which ones are you wanting, is it Maroon or is it Choc/cream? If so we could compile a list and I will submit it to Bachmann and see if we can influence some future production.

All Maroon. BCK, BSK, CK, SK, SLS, RMB.

The trouble is nobody else is going to make the Mk1's so there is no urgency to protect their potential market share but if we don't ask we will just have to wait in line.

I have approached them directly, but perhaps you will have more influence.

Best

Scott.

[Suffolk Rob]

To me there are plusses and minuses for both annual and quarterly announcements but at the end of the day neither changes Bachmann's plans, only when they choose to tell their potential customers.

That said, Mike's points on production numbers and ability to save are entirely valid. Revolution's approach works very well for me with full, which I now go for, or 50% payment but of course that doesn't fit the Bachmann business model of supply through retailers only, and for me, only works because of the trust I have in Revolution and their track record.

So, excitement of an annual announcement followed by a long wait, or excitement quarterly followed by potential disappointment as in the last couple of times, you pay your money you take your choice

Personally I'm not sure circumstances have allowed the new approach to work in quite the way Bachmann intended yet and the current "run" may not be the way things are when it settles down. It may be more like this time last year when the 17 and Mermaid appeared from nowhere followed by Shark and clay wagon(admittedly there was clearly some sort of hitch with this one) in the next qtr, or more likely somewhere in between. I know they were EFE but to me, it's still Bachmann facilitating n gauge purchases

I do however find the re-run policy unfathomable. If they feel they only have finance and/or production capacity to rerun 1 coach model for delivery in the quarter, that's fair enough, a business decision, but why the Inspection Saloon? Surely something like a Mk 1 second in blue/grey, maroon and one other livery would be out of their warehouse and onto retailers' shelves quicker? I'm assuming the production costs are quite similar being models of very similar detail levels?

Rob

[osborns]

one only BCK in stock Scott
+one RU which you don't want
and that is the sum total of BR MK1's in maroon
sorry
Maurice

[NGS-PO]

one only BCK in stock Scott
+one RU which you don't want
and that is the sum total of BR MK1's in maroon
sorry
Maurice

That's okay, Maurice.

I appreciate you looking.

Best

Scott.

PS in the interests of balance, I note that Blue/Grey modellers are in a similar predicament.  It's not a situation that would entice someone into the hobby, I feel.

[osborns]

It's not a situation that would entice someone into the hobby, I feel.
exactly

[Steven B]

There's been no new Mk1 or Mk2a second class coaches for around 6 years now, turn the clock back and Mk1 SK were being re-run every 18 months or so.



Steven B

[NGS-PO]

Yes that's about right. 2016 was the last run.

Best

Scott.

[CaleyDave]

Quick scan of the website for dates shows the following:

5 plank wagon             Aug/Sep
7 Plank Wagon             Aug/Sep
8 Plank Wagon             Aug/Sep
LMS 20T Brake             Aug/Sep (LMS/BR Grey)

BR 45T TTA Tank Wagon   Sep/Oct (Charrington/Fina)

BR 45T TTA Tank Wagon   Oct/Nov   (Amoco)
LMS 20T Brake              Oct/Nov (Civil/NCB)   
LMS 50ft Inspection            Oct/Nov

Class 150                       Nov/Dec

BR 12T Ventilated Van        Dec/Jan
BR 10T Insulated Van    Dec/Jan
BR MK1 BG              Dec/Jan
LNER 13T Ventilated Van   Dec/Jan
BR MK2A TSO              Dec/Jan (Regional + Scotrail & Highlander sets)

MR 20T Brake Van           Jan/Feb
Class 101                      Jan/Feb
Class 319                      Jan/Feb

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So more Mk2A's are coming but what is currently proposed isn't the most useful.
There is a Blue BSO shown as Awaiting a date so with some wishful thinking we may see a blue TSO or a Regional Railways BSO to match what is due out.

The ScotRail and Highlander set come with a BG and DMU Observation coach respectively which don't really lend themselves to easily make up full trains.
I will be after 4 ScotRail TSO's but I am not sure what I am going to do with 3 Spare BG's after keeping one.

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I think others have summarized my feelings with better worded replies. 3 month cycle not bad but there needs to be something to draw you in and keep expectations up which is currently lacking.

[Bingley Hall]

NGS-PO said a shed load of Mk1s to complete my rakes, but there aren't any to buy.
Which ones are you wanting, is it Maroon or is it Choc/cream? If so we could compile a list and I will submit it to Bachmann and see if we can influence some future production.

All Maroon. BCK, BSK, CK, SK, SLS, RMB.

A whole swag came up on Hattons pre-owned yesterday. More than half gone already.

RMB x 3, BCK, CK still left as at 0500hrs your time.

https://www.hattons.co.uk/718504/graham_farish_374_107_po11_mk1_rmb_mini_buffet_car_in_maroon_blue_riband__pre_owned_very_good_box/stockdetail.aspx

https://www.hattons.co.uk/718642/graham_farish_374_257_po07_mk1_br_maroon_ck_coach__pre_owned_very_good_box/stockdetail.aspx

https://www.hattons.co.uk/718552/graham_farish_374_084a_po05_mk1_bck_brake_corridor_composite_maroon_weathered_pre_owned_corridor_end_door/stockdetail.aspx

[NGS-PO]

NGS-PO said a shed load of Mk1s to complete my rakes, but there aren't any to buy.
Which ones are you wanting, is it Maroon or is it Choc/cream? If so we could compile a list and I will submit it to Bachmann and see if we can influence some future production.

All Maroon. BCK, BSK, CK, SK, SLS, RMB.

A whole swag came up on Hattons pre-owned yesterday. More than half gone already.

RMB x 3, BCK, CK still left as at 0500hrs your time.

https://www.hattons.co.uk/718504/graham_farish_374_107_po11_mk1_rmb_mini_buffet_car_in_maroon_blue_riband__pre_owned_very_good_box/stockdetail.aspx

https://www.hattons.co.uk/718642/graham_farish_374_257_po07_mk1_br_maroon_ck_coach__pre_owned_very_good_box/stockdetail.aspx

https://www.hattons.co.uk/718552/graham_farish_374_084a_po05_mk1_bck_brake_corridor_composite_maroon_weathered_pre_owned_corridor_end_door/stockdetail.aspx

Many thanks for the heads-up.

3 down 30 to go.

Best

Scott.

[Mark]

It really has been a pretty bleak 9 months or so from Farish.  I think the class 40 and 8F were released summer / autumn time of last year, but there's been nothing of note since, with the exception of the much anticipated toilet a few months back.  The next loco / unit appears to be the 319, currently due early 2022.  A quick look at Rails website shows there's very little currently in stock - N class, 108s, 31 & 47 in Railfreight grey and the occasional straggler.  The lack of core models - Mk1 stock for instance, 08s etc is very strange.  Obviously they have their reasons, but prioritising Inspection Saloons over Mk1s seems bizarre.   

As for quarterly announcements - it just depends whether you prefer being mildly disappointed 4 times a year or seriously disappointed once a year.  The downside for Farish of quarterly announcements at the moment is that it shines a regular spotlight on the paucity of their offering and keeps debates such as this one going.

Mark 

[Newportnobby]

It really has been a pretty bleak 9 months or so from Farish.  I think the class 40 and 8F were released summer / autumn time of last year, but there's been nothing of note since, with the exception of the much anticipated toilet a few months back. 

Yes - I was much relieved to see that as well

[honk843]

Bachman told us at TINGS 2018 that they were not investing in N gauge (a wonderful marketing tactic at an N gauge show). They seem to be true to their word.

Personally I think Kader are pulling the strings, given financial problems and not listening to the U.K. end of its operation.