Bachmann Farish Autumn Announcements

[joe cassidy]

I will be after 4 ScotRail TSO's but I am not sure what I am going to do with 3 Spare BG's after keeping one.

Parcels train 

[Roy L S]

Bachman told us at TINGS 2018 that they were not investing in N gauge (a wonderful marketing tactic at an N gauge show). They seem to be true to their word.

Personally I think Kader are pulling the strings, given financial problems and not listening to the U.K. end of its operation.

I hadn't heard that said at TINGS 2018 - was that said to you from the horse's mouth or did it come via the rumour mill? If from a reputable source it is odd because in July of that year both the 8F and Thompsons were announced and shown in CAD form!  Also, it certainly isn't 100% factual given that the (albeit a bit obscure) Class 69 has since been announced too.

Add to this I have also just received an e-mail from Richard Proudman of Bachmann reasserting their commitment to the Farish brand which seems to contradict it too.

Where I do concur is that like you I do wonder if (or rather suspect) it is Kader who are controlling priorities not Bachmann Europe. It would also explain the unfathomably terrible choices in terms of what is actually coming through.

Roy

[njee20]

Yes, that would be a very odd statement to make as well.

[joe cassidy]

Maybe Kader have big stocks of the parts for the inspection saloon that they want to get rid off ?

[njee20]

I guess it's possible. Hard to imagine though, among all their products for all their brands. I'd love to know the rationale for their releases.

[honk843]

Bachman told us at TINGS 2018 that they were not investing in N gauge (a wonderful marketing tactic at an N gauge show). They seem to be true to their word.

Personally I think Kader are pulling the strings, given financial problems and not listening to the U.K. end of its operation.

I hadn't heard that said at TINGS 2018 - was that said to you from the horse's mouth or did it come via the rumour mill?

Roy

There were five  of us together at that show. One of us said to the guy at Bachmans who has sweptback grey hair and has since retired. "What Bachman should do..." not the way to get anyone on side. But before he had a chance to continue the Bachman guy says something like what you have to remember is that given the current economic climate Bachman are no interested in investing anything in N gauge as it only generates 20% of their sales.
He then went on to tell us how the Chinese had laughed at the stuff they had bought from GF and I thought why buy it?

I was quite disillusioned by all this but fortunately ran straight into Bob Symmons (I think) on the Revolution stand whose enthusiasm soon dispelled the Bachman gloom.

For the record I personally think that up to that time we had been spoilt by the number of new models arriving. More than the market could absorb perhaps. Nature dislikes a vacuum and we just have to wait to see who fills it. It is not good for new-comers however.

The 69 is probably the big autumn news that Bachman have in store for us. But it does nothing for those of us who choose to model earlier eras.

[njee20]

The 69 is probably the big autumn news that Bachman have in store for us. But it does nothing for those of us who choose to model earlier eras.

I think that's a bit unfair, unless you announce an entire portfolio of models in one go (Dapol Magnificent 7 anyone!?) there will always be some who are not interested. Yes, ok, the 69 is only relevant for those modelling the contemporary scene, but even so.

I'm going to continue with my dogged faith that they will announce some more interesting models at some point, but if they don't then hey ho! More than enough coming from Revolution and some re-runs from Dapol to fulfill my whims!

[Roy L S]

I can't think who that might have been in 2018 from the description. Graham Hubbard had long left by then Colin Allbright too I think, It doesn't describe Dennis Lovett and swept back hair and David Haarhaus certainly don't match!

Could be the 69 was the "big news" in which case the words "flat" and "fall" might find themselves in the same sentence. A very new, very small and very niche class of locomotives.

Hmm..

Ah well.

Roy

[honk843]

Roy,

It was none of those you mention. I put it down at the time to him having had his ear bent by N-gaugers all day telling him what Bachman should do when they have little control over things in the big scheme of things but the longer it goes on the more it seems right.

Although I do principally eras 4 and 5 I do have some more modern things ,like 6 class 66s- for reasons that would not be relevant to this thread but I will not be saving up for a 69.

[gc4946]

I'm hoping something will be announced to mark Farish's 50th anniversary but what or when it's going to happen I don't know!

[Roy L S]

In terms of inventory there is absolutely no question that Bachmann's Farish range is number one. In terms of rolling stock there is even now a fair range avaliable, albeit coach wise there are many "holes" in stock (e.g. maroon Mk1s) that could be improved by further runs. Nobody comes close in terms of range already tooled. Loco wise the same, but availablilty is slipping and production isn't even close to making it good.

I expressed my views directly to Bachmann via Collectors Club of which I am a member, having renewed just before the Q3 update, subsequently wondering why I did. To be fair, Richard Proudman didn't hide, on behalf of Bachmann he responded. He asserts that they are proud of the Farish brand and there was no suggestion they are giving up on it at all. The issue about "odd" choices was I think taken on board but whether it will change who can say. It wasn't said but their collective frustration suggested to me that it may not be Bachmann Europe but Kader deciding on priorities as far as production goes. They are working on changing things but it will take time. I guess this is the price they pay for not being able to choose factories themselves. I have said my piece to Bachmann and can do no more. Perhaps understandably Richard would not comment as far as new tool is concerned, I am now reconciled to not expecting much for at least the next few quarters, and if anything more significant does transpire it will be a bonus.

I feel the next "big" thing if it goes to plan will probably be the Rapido Class 28 and then the Sonic J50. I will stop looking to Bachmann for a time.

Roy

[NinOz]

....having had his ear bent by N-gaugers all day telling him what Bachman should do...

I would find that super annoying.

[CaleyDave]

My Previous list is out of date already!

Looks like someone has been busy updating the Due dates on the website.

A number of items due soon have been Delayed by a month and new liveries are now being delivered together with the previously announced.

A lot of previously announced items now have dates listed against them which were not there before

Due Dates - Copied 08/08/21
5 plank wagon                Sep/Oct
7 Plank Wagon                Sep/Oct
8 Plank Wagon                Sep/Oct
LMS 20T Brake               Sep/Oct

BR 45T TTA Tank Wagon      Oct/Nov
LMS 20T Brake                 Oct/Nov (Civil/NCB)   
LMS 50ft Inspection         Oct/Nov

Class 150                   Dec/Jan
BR 12T Ventilated Van         Dec/Jan
BR 10T Insulated Van       Dec/Jan
BR MK1 BG                    Dec/Jan
LNER 13T Ventilated Van      Dec/Jan
BR MK2A TSO                 Dec/Jan (Regional + Scotrail & Highlander sets)
BR MK2A BSO               Dec/Jan [NEW DATE]

MR 20T Brake Van              Jan/Feb
Class 101                   Jan/Feb

Class 319                   Feb/Mar
JPA Bogie Cement Tank      Feb/Mar

BR 20T Brake Van          Mar/Apr
Class 08               Mar/Apr

Class 37               Apr/May

BR Mk1 Suburban   S         May/Jun
BR Mk1 Suburban   C         May/Jun
BR Mk1 Suburban   SO         May/Jun
BR Mk1 Suburban   BS         May/Jun
LMS Stanier Full Brake      May/Jun
24T Iron Ore Hopper         May/Jun
Conflat Wagon            May/Jun


Outstanding without dates
BR HEA Hopper
BR HFA Hopper
BR HAA Hopper
30T Bogie Bolster
Class 220
Class 350
Class 450
Class 158
BR Mk1 CCT
SR PLV
GWR Hawksworth Full Brake
GWR Hawksworth AutoTrailer
BR MK2f DBSO             [Thats what it said when I checked!]
MR 3835 4F
LNER J39
BR Standard 5MT
LMS Fairburn
Class 60
Class 42
Class 47/7
Class 14
Class 24/1

Quick scan of the website for dates shows the following:

5 plank wagon             Aug/Sep
7 Plank Wagon             Aug/Sep
8 Plank Wagon             Aug/Sep
LMS 20T Brake             Aug/Sep (LMS/BR Grey)

BR 45T TTA Tank Wagon   Sep/Oct (Charrington/Fina)

BR 45T TTA Tank Wagon   Oct/Nov   (Amoco)
LMS 20T Brake              Oct/Nov (Civil/NCB)   
LMS 50ft Inspection            Oct/Nov

Class 150                       Nov/Dec

BR 12T Ventilated Van        Dec/Jan
BR 10T Insulated Van    Dec/Jan
BR MK1 BG              Dec/Jan
LNER 13T Ventilated Van   Dec/Jan
BR MK2A TSO              Dec/Jan (Regional + Scotrail & Highlander sets)

MR 20T Brake Van           Jan/Feb
Class 101                      Jan/Feb
Class 319                      Jan/Feb

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So more Mk2A's are coming but what is currently proposed isn't the most useful.
There is a Blue BSO shown as Awaiting a date so with some wishful thinking we may see a blue TSO or a Regional Railways BSO to match what is due out.

The ScotRail and Highlander set come with a BG and DMU Observation coach respectively which don't really lend themselves to easily make up full trains.
I will be after 4 ScotRail TSO's but I am not sure what I am going to do with 3 Spare BG's after keeping one.

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I think others have summarized my feelings with better worded replies. 3 month cycle not bad but there needs to be something to draw you in and keep expectations up which is currently lacking.

[Newportnobby]

@CaleyDave
I notice the last item item on your new list is a class 23. Is this a typo of yours, or does it truly exist, in which case be still my beating heart!!

[CaleyDave]

@CaleyDave
I notice the last item item on your new list is a class 23. Is this a typo of yours, or does it truly exist, in which case be still my beating heart!!

Sorry to say it was a Typo
Not sure how I turned 24/1 into 23