British Steam passenger trains for newbie

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Pacecars

Quote from: Steven B on May 05, 2020, 09:56:31 AM
Quote from: Steven B on May 04, 2020, 03:41:34 PM
Train formations are tricky. Both Hall and Jubilee were used on middle-long distance trains which were normally longer than the 3-4 you have space for. That said, I'd suggest:
BCK-SK-SK-BSK
or
SK-SK-CK-BSK

Further to my earlier suggestions:

BTK CK CK TK BTK (Nottingham to Manchester Central)
TK TK BTK CK BTK (Sheffield to Worcester)
BTK TK CK CK TK BTK (Sheffield to St Pancras)
TK TK BTK CK BTK (Derby to Bristol)
BTK CK TK BTK (Bradford to York)
BTK CK TK + BG parcels vans (St Pancras to Nottingham)


Personally, I'd get:
2x 374-825 Stanier Brake Third LMS Crimson Lake Coach
1x 374-840 Stanier Vestibule Third LMS Crimson Lake Coach

Unfortunately Farish don't appear to have done the composite in LMS colours (but they do it in BR maroon).
You could use a Farish 374-845 Stanier First Corridor LMS Crimson Lake to make up to a four coach train, or instead get two 374-840 and replace one of the brake thirds with a brake-first (374-830)

For some variety you could also add:
374-885 Stanier 50ft Full Brake LMS Crimson Lake

Alternatively, if you model it in LMS colours post preservation you can run with a rake of Mk1s in Blue/grey!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/13296226@N02/4693801673/

Steven B.


I might have missed it but what is "TK"?  Thanks for the help by the way

PLD

Quote from: Karhedron on May 05, 2020, 01:30:47 PMI think so. I am not too hot on LMS vehicles (I am more of a GWR man ;) ) but it looks similar to the one offered by Farish.


Quote from: crewearpley40 on May 05, 2020, 02:00:41 PM
Looks like an lms 50ft gangwayed brake van . Farish catalogue : 374885

Not quite... It is an LMS Full brake, but it's an earlier Period 2 type rather than the Period 3 'Stanier' type.

Give-aways are the full length footboards and it looks like panelled ends.

crewearpley40

#32
TK classified third class corridor coach. Number 2300 is at Severn valley railway

Pacecars

I decided to get an assortment of coaches that I found at a great price so I have the following Graham Farish cars coming:
374-830C
374-845C
374-847A
374-875
374-876

They might not be quite as accurate as the suggestions (thanks Steven B) but I like the way they look and they were at a good price. This will get me started until I can order more appropriately accurate cars once I figure out a route I want to model.

Pacecars

From all the pictures I have seen I assume the British passenger trains do not run a caboose?

PLD

Quote from: Pacecars on May 07, 2020, 08:02:11 PM
From all the pictures I have seen I assume the British passenger trains do not run a caboose?
We call them by their proper name of "Brake Van" or "Guards Van" over here  ;)

A passenger train would have accommodation for the guard somewhere. It may be a separate Guards/Luggage vehicle such as the Full Brake discussed above or a section within a passenger vehicle.

Pacecars

#36
Gotcha, thanks. I am still learning the "proper" terminology😜

Newportnobby

I'd suggest either Farish 374-825B and/or 374-885A (the latter is not out yet)
You already have on order the 374-830C.

Pacecars

#38
I like the looks of the 374-825B. I ordered it from Peter's Spares. Got the last one in stock. I think I have ordered more from the UK than I have from the USA!


Pacecars


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Quote from: Pacecars on May 08, 2020, 01:45:16 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on May 08, 2020, 09:36:10 AM
Beware - I do like spending other people's money ;)

LOL!

It's true, he does.

But in fairness, we do like spending HIS money.
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Pacecars

#42
If my research is correct the Jubilee is set up for a 6 pin decoder. Which decoder should I be looking at and other than the decoder what else do I need to have sound?

Newportnobby

Quote from: Pacecars on May 09, 2020, 12:16:14 AM
If my research is correct the Jubilee is set up for a 6 pin decoder. Which decoder should I be looking at and other than the decoder what else do I need to have sound?

The Jubilee referred to is Farish 372-477 if that helps provide best answers

Pacecars

Thanks for all the help. Tony Aldam in North Yorkshire is going to do it for me

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