Black 5 chassis, motor, wheels etc

Old Black 5 · January 10, 2020, 06:55:58 PM

Hi,
My late father made 3 1/2" and 5" steam engines one of which was the LMS Black 5.
I don't have his skills but planning instead on having a Black 5 in his memory of my n gauge track.
I've bought a body inc tender but where will I get the chassis, motor, wheels etc.

chrism · January 10, 2020, 07:03:45 PM

The complete things turn up fairly frequently on eBay.

tunneroner61 · January 10, 2020, 07:16:52 PM

e**y always has these for sale. Here you go https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_osacat=0&_odkw=grafar+black5&_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.Xn+gauge+black5.TRS0&_nkw=n+gauge+black5&_sacat=0

This won't seem helpful but buying a complete working one will probably be cheaper than sourcing the various bits separately. And you won't have to work out where it all goes. The latest retooled Black 5 is a very decent model, way better than the Poole version.

HTH Norman

Old Black 5 · January 10, 2020, 09:50:35 PM

Thanks for your wise advice but my dad started from scratch so I'd like to give it a go.
Any ideas where I'll get the parts?

PLD · January 10, 2020, 10:51:19 PM

The only way you will get the right parts to fit is by buying a Black 5 chassis and taking it apart!

tunneroner61 · January 10, 2020, 11:07:58 PM

It's not clear to me which version Black 5 you are trying to build. The original Poole/early Chinese build was loco driven. The retooled Chinese build one was tender driven. Make sure you know which sort you are trying to build, they are not compatible.

As to sources of parts I suggest:
1. ebay. The link I gave you earlier included listings for spares & repairs bargains.
2. Bachmann spares department
3. BR Lines.
4. Peters spares
5. Demic bins at model shops/traders at shows etc.

As to what you need to buy I'd suggest you get a non working loco/tender chassis and repair that, sourcing spares from the above suppliers. There are no service sheets for the early version to my knowledge so without a complete loco chassis for instance to see what you need ( and having bought that you would not need the service sheet anyway) you'll be in the dark.

Good luck but I think you are really going about it the wrong (hard) way.

Old Black 5 · January 11, 2020, 08:22:09 AM

Thanks again for your help.

Dr Al · January 13, 2020, 09:21:54 AM

I'd agree that the Poole models are easy to get and would be far simpler to buy a complete model, and cheaper. Indeed I'm sure I have one, if you are in the market.

Cheers,
Alan

Old Black 5 · January 13, 2020, 09:53:18 AM

Yes please, Alan.
Could you provide details?
Thanks

Dr Al · January 13, 2020, 09:56:04 AM

Quote from: Old Black 5 on January 13, 2020, 09:53:18 AM
Yes please, Alan.
Could you provide details?
Thanks

PM me on it.

Cheers,
Alan