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Author Topic: Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches (with Accurascale)  (Read 5930 times)

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Re: Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches (with Accurascale)
« Reply #75 on: June 27, 2019, 07:46:54 AM »
1) I think you mean Ben and Mike

2) I donít think anyoneís complaining (Iím not), merely observing

3) your extrapolation of peopleís implications seems way off and pretty unfair

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Re: Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches (with Accurascale)
« Reply #76 on: June 27, 2019, 10:03:20 PM »
Well I have now yellowed my 3D print 73/9 and it is a lovely print , teal to follow!

All the real Mk5s seem to be a bit plagued with TMS issues with reports of sleepers failing /running very late an almost daily  froth generator on other forums ! Hopefully we will escape that in the models! - DCC brake facility??  The Mk3s will stay on longer now on the Highlander, get them while you can. 

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Re: Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches (with Accurascale)
« Reply #77 on: June 27, 2019, 10:29:10 PM »
All the real Mk5s seem to be a bit plagued with TMS issues with reports of sleepers failing /running very late an almost daily  froth generator on other forums ! Hopefully we will escape that in the models! - DCC brake facility??  The Mk3s will stay on longer now on the Highlander, get them while you can.

It seems that Transpennine are prioritising their other new fleets ahead of the Mk5a sets now, ue to all the problems (the Mk5a sets were supposed to be the first of the new fleets in service).

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Re: Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches (with Accurascale)
« Reply #78 on: June 27, 2019, 11:11:21 PM »

It seems that Transpennine are prioritising their other new fleets ahead of the Mk5a sets now, ue to all the problems (the Mk5a sets were supposed to be the first of the new fleets in service).

At risk to pulling things off topic onto the real ones, in the case of transpennine and well the MK5s in general, the issues been had regarding the TMS is due to inter operation with the locos and the TMS systems fitted on them, the Mk5s use the CAF system where as the 68s and 92s use the ones fitted by their respective manufacturers.

Added into that specifically for the 92s and MK5As there has been some reported issues with the Deliner Couplers which when working between say DMUs which are both powered haven't had an issue but when 16 coaches are been pulled the electrcial connections for the TMS have a momentary break and systems on modern trains are designed as such should there be ANY lose of connection then it automatically applies full breaking effort.

I only know this as well last week I came off an traction and rolling stock engineering course which well these issues were used as examples.

But back on topic I personally cannot wait for these to arrive and a really great addition to the market for years to come!

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Re: Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches (with Accurascale)
« Reply #79 on: June 29, 2019, 02:35:32 PM »
Four Caledonian Sleeper sets have now been listed alongside the two Trans Pennine Express sets mentioned previously.

http://www.revolutiontrains.com/product-category/ngauge/mark-5-coaches/

The differences in the lengths of some cars is apparent in the artwork, just to add to the tooling complexity and cost.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2019, 02:38:05 PM by woodbury22uk »
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Re: Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches (with Accurascale)
« Reply #80 on: June 29, 2019, 02:39:17 PM »
Four Caledonian Sleeper sets have now been listed alongside the two Trans Pennine Exprees sets mentioned previously.

http://www.revolutiontrains.com/product-category/ngauge/mark-5-coaches/


@red_death  ok what combinations make what trains please.

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Re: Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches (with Accurascale)
« Reply #81 on: June 29, 2019, 02:41:40 PM »
Can these same coaches be used to form a Lowlander consist?

Thanks,

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https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39501.msg476247#msg476247

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Re: Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches (with Accurascale)
« Reply #82 on: June 29, 2019, 02:42:43 PM »
Four Caledonian Sleeper sets have now been listed alongside the two Trans Pennine Exprees sets mentioned previously.

http://www.revolutiontrains.com/product-category/ngauge/mark-5-coaches/


@red_death  ok what combinations make what trains please.


It says that all 4 sets are needed for the complete Highlander.

I'm wondering about the Lowlander as well though.

Regards,

John P
Check out my layout thread.

Contemporary NW (Wigan Wallgate and North Western)

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=39501.msg476247#msg476247

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Re: Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches (with Accurascale)
« Reply #83 on: June 29, 2019, 03:33:39 PM »
Order in for both the TPE sets - can't wait - i'm sure they are going to be amazing  :bounce:
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Re: Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches (with Accurascale)
« Reply #84 on: June 29, 2019, 09:32:46 PM »
The lowlander sets are not up yet as I ran out of time yesterday afternoon.

I'll get them up tomorrow.

There are formation diagrams on each item page. Basically all 4 packs will give you the full highlander.

Cheers Mike



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Re: Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches (with Accurascale)
« Reply #85 on: June 30, 2019, 07:52:34 AM »
16 coaches? Wow.
According to Wikipedia the MK5 car is 22.2 meter long, times 16 is 355.2 meters, divided by 148 is 2.4 meter platform length w/o locomotive. 

For the locomotive I give 20 cm and additional 30 cm for clearance (15 cm front and rear) which gives a rough estimation for loop length / fiddle yard track / staging track of 2.9 meters.

That is .... just .... amazing, nice.
Why is the class 92 order book already closed? Now I'd like a Highlander set, just for the heck of it.

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Re: Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches (with Accurascale)
« Reply #86 on: June 30, 2019, 11:27:09 AM »
That is .... just .... amazing, nice.

Why is the class 92 order book already closed? Now I'd like a Highlander set, just for the heck of it.

Hi MacRat,

Our Class 92 locomotives can still be obtained from selected retailers after production, and I don't think the Claledonian Sleeper 92s are sold out at all of them.

For those seeking more information about consists there is a dedicated Mk5/5a page here: https://wp.me/P5BA2j-4nT which includes a downloadable PDF showing the various Sleeper formations.

In short, the coaches for the Lowlander and Highlander trains are the same leaving Euston; the difference is how they are split when they reach Scotland, and in model terms the destination shown on the side-board.

Each 16-vehicle train comprises two distinct 8-vehicle parts:  one is known as single PRM (Passenger - Restricted Mobility) as it comprises Seated Car + Club Car + Accessible Sleeper + 5 Sleepers.  The other is double PRM as it is the same, but with 4 sleepers and two Accessible Sleepers.

The Lowlander divides at Carstairs; the single PRM set goes to Edinburgh, the double PRM set to Glasgow.

The Highlander divides at Edinburgh.  The single PRM set goes to Inverness.  The double PRM set is further split into portions for Fort William and Aberdeen.  The precise make up of these varies; in Summer most sleepers go to Fort William, in winter most go to Aberdeen, but each always has an Accessible Sleeper.

Also, an additional Sleeper and Club car are added to the Fort William set at Edinburgh.

Cheers

Ben A.





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Re: Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches (with Accurascale)
« Reply #87 on: June 30, 2019, 12:55:05 PM »
thanks for that

hope it is a successful project. i did notice a class 90 in green freightliner livery hauling a late running mk3 set with mk2 lounge the other morning !! may have been standing in for a mk 5 set !!

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Re: Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches (with Accurascale)
« Reply #88 on: June 30, 2019, 12:57:07 PM »
The Mk3s are still in use on the highlander at the moment.

Given the reliability problems with the Mk5s, there might be a delay before the Mk3s are al replaced.

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Re: Revolution Offering Mk5 coaches (with Accurascale)
« Reply #89 on: June 30, 2019, 12:59:22 PM »
thanks for the explanations Ben & Mike, looks like I am definitely going back to work at this rate. looks like it is going to be every bit as spectacular as the Pendolino's.

cheers
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