Dapol (re)announce HST Protype train - open for pre-orders

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Yet_Another

Cheers, I thought that would be the case. This evening's task, find the spare decoders...
Tony

'...things are not done by those who sit down to count the cost of every thought and act.' - Sir Daniel Gooch of IKB

Dr Al

Quote from: Only Me on September 03, 2020, 06:03:42 PM
No they werent... and they were warm white incandescent not bright white

Under dcc they can be toned down

Presumably the LEDs could be changed to 'warm white' also.

Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: Roy L S
If Dr Al is online he may be able to provide a more comprehensive answer.

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Dr Al

Quote from: Only Me on September 04, 2020, 12:58:16 PM
I guess so if someone is that worried about it

Oh definitely, but it will depend on how much glue and suchlike Dapol have used to secure the PCBs - on normal HSTs they are ok, but stuff like 156s are horrible...

Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: Roy L S
If Dr Al is online he may be able to provide a more comprehensive answer.

"We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces."Dr. Carl Sagan

Bob G

Replacement HSDT prototype received and touch wood it works.
A bit stiff and wobbly but it has not been run in yet. Lets hope it loosens up. I quite like the bright lights.

Interesting the white and red lights on the No 2 end of the power cars. Not sure about those being on when the unit is running?
There also seems to be a lot of drag on the trailing power car too. Has anyone else experienced this?

And does anyone have a better idea of where the bits in the bits bag go than the dreadful exploded parts diagram provided?

Best
Bob

PaulCheffus

Quote from: Bob G on September 04, 2020, 01:26:56 PM

There also seems to be a lot of drag on the trailing power car too. Has anyone else experienced this?

Best
Bob

Hi

Yes mine is the same, I found without the body on it doesn't drag but I haven't spent any time as yet finding out why.

Cheers

Paul
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Snowwolflair

Quote from: PaulCheffus on September 04, 2020, 02:06:48 PM
Quote from: Bob G on September 04, 2020, 01:26:56 PM

There also seems to be a lot of drag on the trailing power car too. Has anyone else experienced this?

Best
Bob

Hi

Yes mine is the same, I found without the body on it doesn't drag but I haven't spent any time as yet finding out why.

Cheers

Paul

Check the body is snapped home correctly.

Bob G

Quote from: Only Me on September 04, 2020, 01:50:06 PM
Bob the lights can be turned off on the rear by using the switch on the blanking plate...

Haven't found that yet. Was just a quick "does this work" test before being packed away for Birthday. 10 days to go....

I was so excited when I copped this train at Old Oak in 1975. You can't imagine what it feels like to actually have a model of it (albeit 45 years later).
It still looks amazing to me, especially given that e.g. some of the Claytons were still being built just 10 years before. That's a huge level of progress, considering both had Paxman engines and one was a disaster!

Thanks
Bob

PaulCheffus

Quote from: Snowwolflair on September 04, 2020, 02:08:59 PM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on September 04, 2020, 02:06:48 PM
Quote from: Bob G on September 04, 2020, 01:26:56 PM

There also seems to be a lot of drag on the trailing power car too. Has anyone else experienced this?

Best
Bob

Hi

Yes mine is the same, I found without the body on it doesn't drag but I haven't spent any time as yet finding out why.

Cheers

Paul

Check the body is snapped home correctly.

Hi

It is I've just checked

Cheers

Paul
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Dizz

Some DCC help please:

I will be adding sound later this week and want to get the prepararions done before the decoders arrive. I will have to remove a few mm of plastic from the top of the mounting to make space for the longer decoder however I cant find any information wrt the mounting PCB connections.  The speaker connections are marked, so that's not a problem, but would I be correct in thinking the other solder pads (circled in red) are for a stay alive circuit? Unfortunately I don't have a multimeter to check output/polarity/etc myself.
Many thanks in advance
Pete


Snowwolflair

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Quote from: Dizz on September 06, 2020, 11:00:44 AM
Some DCC help please:

I will be adding sound later this week and want to get the prepararions done before the decoders arrive. I will have to remove a few mm of plastic from the top of the mounting to make space for the longer decoder however I cant find any information wrt the mounting PCB connections.  The speaker connections are marked, so that's not a problem, but would I be correct in thinking the other solder pads (circled in red) are for a stay alive circuit? Unfortunately I don't have a multimeter to check output/polarity/etc myself.
Many thanks in advance
Pete



You just need to unscrew the PCB and slide it along a bit.  See my notes earlier in the thread about mounting the speaker.

the circled pads are the motor + and -

Dizz

 :thankyousign:
Thank you very much for replying so quickly.
I will move the pcb after lunch.
Have decided to invest in a multimeter to help with wiring in a stay alive.... should have bought one ages ago really.

Ollie3440

Afternoon all,

Well I struck gold and found someone on Facebook who had a spare powercar pair for sale. Needless to say I snapped them up!




Only the powered 41001 will be staying with me as per the preservation seen. 41002 ia to be renumbered as 41001 and will be heading off to a friends layout to act as tue same, all be it as a Dummy version.

Just gave them an hours running and all reports are good so far!

Cheera

Ollie

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PaulCheffus

Hi

I've had time to look at my dummy car and it's obvious that the wheels are rubbing on the underside of the underframe even with the body off. I am now pondering what is the best way to open up the bogie holes but also keeping reasonable strength in the underframe.

I also suspect the power car wheels are rubbing in the same manner but haven't checked yet.

Cheers

Paul
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Bob G

Quote from: PaulCheffus on September 06, 2020, 04:48:34 PM
Hi

I've had time to look at my dummy car and it's obvious that the wheels are rubbing on the underside of the underframe even with the body off. I am now pondering what is the best way to open up the bogie holes but also keeping reasonable strength in the underframe.

I also suspect the power car wheels are rubbing in the same manner but haven't checked yet.

Cheers

Paul


I had the same with the Maunsell BY Van. That was easier to fix though.
Talk about tight tolerances!
Bob

PaulCheffus

Hi

I wonder if they have tried to lower the power cars slightly as the bogie openings look the same as my NMT version but it doesn't rub. I haven't as yet put them side by side but I suspect the new RTC version may be slightly lower in overall height.

Cheers

Paul
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