Loads for mini monster box wagons help?

bbdave · December 06, 2015, 03:56:46 PM

I have some ews mini monster box wagons and would like some loads but don't know what they are/were used for, any ideas please?

Dave

koyli55002 · December 06, 2015, 04:46:27 PM

I have a recollection of trainloads of boulders being carried in them for sea defence work down in the South West - I have a feeling they transitted the Bodmin and Wenford rails to reach their destination. Maybe someone more local to the area can elaborate.
I imagine they could also have been used for clean ballast from "virtual quarries" - their height would have prevented them being overloaded ?
The full height "megaboxes" were often used for baled scrap, I believe.

Cooper · December 06, 2015, 06:25:14 PM

Spent ballast off of worksites, often intermingled with JNA Falcon (Dapol) and MFA (Farish) and PNA (N Gauge Society kit) wagons carrying the same with Salmon wagons (NGS also) carrying old track panels. The odd OBA (Farish) can often find their way into such trains for carrying sundry bits to/from worksite.

JasonBz · December 06, 2015, 07:03:23 PM

Quote from: koyli55002 on December 06, 2015, 04:46:27 PM
I have a recollection of trainloads of boulders being carried in them for sea defence work down in the South West - I have a feeling they transitted the Bodmin and Wenford rails to reach their destination. Maybe someone more local to the area can elaborate.
I imagine they could also have been used for clean ballast from "virtual quarries" - their height would have prevented them being overloaded ?
The full height "megaboxes" were often used for baled scrap, I believe.

I think you are thinking of the sea defences at Minehead on the WSR

Megaboxes def used for both baled and unbaled scrap traffic

bbdave · December 06, 2015, 08:08:56 PM

What are track panels? But mainly building waste rubble etc.?

I've found pictures and seen megaboxes loaded but no monsterboxes.
Dave

koyli55002 · December 06, 2015, 08:13:49 PM

JasonBZ -
Yep, that's the one - but when you live on the North East coast, then everything southwest of Sheffield, let alone Watford, is "foreign" !

JasonBz · December 06, 2015, 08:20:01 PM

Quote from: koyli55002 on December 06, 2015, 08:13:49 PM
JasonBZ -
Yep, that's the one - but when you live on the North East coast, then everything southwest of Sheffield, let alone Watford, is "foreign" !

No need to be sorry - questions and answers are a journey to knowing stuff

Cooper · December 06, 2015, 08:43:03 PM

Quote from: bbdave on December 06, 2015, 08:08:56 PM
What are track panels? But mainly building waste rubble etc.?

I've found pictures and seen megaboxes loaded but no monsterboxes.
Dave

Dave,

Here is a Salmon with a track panel load:

https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/Y-Tops-codes/YSA-Salmon-flats/i-779gMxR/A

Monster box with spent ballast:

https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/M-Tops-codes/MOA-bogie-ballast-boxes/i-4s95H2f/A

MFA with spent ballast load:

https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/M-Tops-codes/MFA-ballast-box-opens/i-dNtL3VX/A

OBA with metal sleeper load:

https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/O/OBA-drop-side-open-wagons/i-s7k4brC/A

PNA 'Piranha' with fresh ballast load:

https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/P-Tops-codes/PNA-Pirhanha-Railtrack-ballast/i-56HRcTs/A

JNA 'Falcon' with fresh ballast load:

https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/J-/JNA-bogie-boxes/JNA-29xxx-Network-Rail-Falcon/i-SX27tGQ/A

Loads of pictures on this site. Hope this helps!

bbdave · December 06, 2015, 09:09:35 PM

Excellent thank you a bit of weathering to do by the looks of things.

Dave

koyli55002 · December 07, 2015, 04:22:52 AM

On a similar subject, can anyyone tell me of the nominal size of a scrap bale.
Would a metre cube be about tight ?

bbdave · December 07, 2015, 07:14:26 AM

I think that's about right maybe a little less but make sure they're not all rusty alot of cars are galvenised my neighbours 2004 focus is I know because he used a wall to stop in the summer and still no rust.

Dave

koyli55002 · December 07, 2015, 07:52:45 AM

I think I recall an article in Model Rail some time ago on how to create them - crumpled foil wrapped around a cube of polystyrene ?
Will have to search my library !

koyli55002 · December 07, 2015, 08:03:47 AM

Found a site (albeit American) that may be useful......
http://www.nscaleloads.com/enhancing_our_products.htm

OwL · January 07, 2016, 05:25:42 PM

I know that MBA wagons do carry scrap metal. A flow goes past the lines near my home. Its normally a class 66 pulling the rake and they are normally fully laden with scrap metal.

They can convey stone or sometimes wood.

Here is an example:

http://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/M-Tops-codes/MBA-Monster-Box-wagons/